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It’s 2019, my wireless headphones, the iPad, my computer and my portable battery all have USB-C, only the iPhone, which by the way is supposed to be this futuristic device, doesn’t have it, it’s really frustrating dear Apple!
 
''I own products from Apple, Samsung, Google, MS, and a ton of other companies. All of it works and does exactly what I want it to do.Personal use case. Nothing else matters.:cool:'' yet you're hanging on macrumors not samsung rumors, and here you're more than other companies welcome. It's not just about the products. Read some Apple Values too
 
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A fast charger is the least of my interests. Not when I have access to my charger at home, at work, in the car, I can charge my iPhone anytime I need to and the 5W charger works perfectly fine for my needs. I suspect the 5 W charger Apple includes, (even though dated), works perfectly fine for the majority of iPhone consumers, that wouldn’t likely even really appreciate a fast charger anyways. I think if someone wants a fast charger, Apple should sell it separately for those who actually would appreciate it.
 
No way they will provide 18w charger in the box.. Be great but with how apple are I doubt it
 
WHY just WHYYYY Apple is fragmenting so much of its products? Why clinging on to Lightning if iPad Pro was getting a USB-C anyway?

Latest iPad Pro isn't that much different from 10.5" I bought in 2017. It is shinier, faster, and less bezels sure. But it isn't much more pro than then one I already have. My iPad also has the same 8000mAh battery even it's still Lighning port. Power sharing can also be done via Lightning, if Apple allows it to. This lineups are confusing for most. Travellers must hold on to both USB-C and Lightning cables because of this fragmentation, WHYYYY???

Please don't become the Android manufacturers we desperately try to avoid. Consolidate and think, what do you want Apple? Sticking with Lightning, or moving on to USB-C? Pick a side already!!
Least android stick to one cable and that's USB C which is what apple should use but as always they are behind the times as we await for them to catch up
 
A USB-C to Lighning cable would be almost as ridiculous as the Lightning earpods.

I love Lightning but can we just go to USB-C for everything please?
 
Switching iphones to USB-C would be tragic in a world full of USB-A charging ports, cables and accessories. I don’t want to have to replace a dozen Lightning cables and accessories when I don’t even own one USB-C device. The vast majority of Apple customers own Lightning and USB-A products. USB-C only applies to a small minority of Apple customers worldwide. When I finally upgrade my iPhone it will be to Qi charging which is available at far more locations than USB-C

But why should we care about 99.9% of the world. How do they matter? /s
 
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I was listening to the CEO of Anker being interviewed. He said in the near future phones aren't going to come with charging bricks anymore, as we all have them lying around at home. I think that's the future. We complain about the chargers Apple packages with their phones, but really, how big of a problem is this? Seems less of a problem than the removal of the headphone jack.
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A USB-C to Lighning cable would be almost as ridiculous as the Lightning earpods.

I love Lightning but can we just go to USB-C for everything please?
Apple makes a lot of coin on its Made for iPhone program. I don't think Lightning is going anywhere---normies don't care, although I agree with you---USB C everywhere would be ideal.
 
A fast charger and lightning to USB-C cable would be welcome news!
 
It literally is ONE extra cable.
So you need to carry one power adapter and two cables.
Indeed, complaining about that sounds silly to me too.

That's one extra cable that I MUST NOT forget on all of my trips.

Okay, maybe I forget a cable or two, but if they all connect to USB-C, I have no problem at all. Maybe I only bring one USB-C brick, one USB-C cable for all of my 3 devices. Maybe I should bring two cables instead? But no problem at all because I can charge all three alternately with only one single cable.

Again, many high end Androids already use USB-C, and if I use them along with the new iPad Pro, I can travel more lightly with just one cable and one charger (without being afraid that I bring the wrong cable). Apple is all about integration, so yes this is important to me.
 
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Switching iphones to USB-C would be tragic in a world full of USB-A charging ports, cables and accessories. I don’t want to have to replace a dozen Lightning cables and accessories when I don’t even own one USB-C device. The vast majority of Apple customers own Lightning and USB-A products. USB-C only applies to a small minority of Apple customers worldwide. When I finally upgrade my iPhone it will be to Qi charging which is available at far more locations than USB-C

My Android phone came with a fast charger which was USB-A, and a USB-A to USB-C cable. So out of the box I could fast charge my USB-C phone and connect to my USB-A MacBook.

To do the same thing you'd need two Apple chargers with two different cables, purchased at an extra expense.

The "ecosystem" is a joke.
 
Anyone with AirPods already needs a Lightning cable, so having iPhone switch to USB-C means they would now have to carry an extra cable, just for iPhone. And there are a lot more of them than MBP or 3rd gen iPad Pro owners—who are already carrying that Lightning cable

Quite right. What’s next - Macs with only USB-C? :)

The user-friendly time to switch the iPhone to USB-C would have been when they dropped the headphone jack and lots of people needed to buy new headphones, adapters, docks etc. Of course, that’s not the most profitable time...

As for the cable... Dear Apple, it’s an $800+ phone - stop being Scrooge and include both cables.
 
Latest iPad Pro isn't that much different from 10.5" I bought in 2017. It is shinier, faster, and less bezels sure. But it isn't much more pro than then one I already have. My iPad also has the same 8000mAh battery even it's still Lighning port.
Year-over-year improvements aren't earth-shattering. Stop the presses.

I've had to carry multiple USB cables for many years. First it was (USB A to) USB Mini B and USB Micro B, now it is USB Micro B and USB-C. Plus my Fitbit needs a custom charging cable as well. On the Apple (proprietary) side, it has been (USB A to) 30-Pin Connector and Lightning since about 2002 (iPod, iPhone, iPad, BeatsX) with only three years of me needing both 30-Pin and Lightning. Sure, with my next computer, I will have to deal with the transition from USB A to USB-C but I'm likely to keep some USB-A charging blocks (and USB-A to USB Micro B, USB-C, Lightning cables).

Consolidate and think, what do you want Apple? Sticking with Lightning, or moving on to USB-C? Pick a side already!!
By one reading, they will, it's just gonna take time. The new iPads are old exterior shells with new innards, they've kept the old ports for that reason. By another reading there will remain two classes of devices, ones with Lightning and the ones with USB-C. Until last year that line was drawn between iPads and Macs, now it is drawn between non-Pro iPads and the iPad Pro, ie, just shifting the dividing line a bit.
 
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My Android phone came with a fast charger which was USB-A, and a USB-A to USB-C cable. So out of the box I could fast charge my USB-C phone and connect to my USB-A MacBook.

To do the same thing you'd need two Apple chargers with two different cables, purchased at an extra expense.

The "ecosystem" is a joke.
It really is, it's great that I only need one cable and that's USB C. Even the galaxy Buds come with USB C so it's nice not worrying

I did think when apple went USB C for the pro it would mean it all would filter through. Guess not
 
The user-friendly time to switch the iPhone to USB-C would have been when they dropped the headphone jack and lots of people needed to buy new headphones, adapters, docks etc. Of course, that’s not the most profitable time...
I think the percentage of iPhone buyers that buy any kind of Lightning based accessories is pretty small. Charging docks probably sold the most in this category but this is now moving to Qi-charging. Very few people will have bought Lightning-based headphones, even less Lightning to USB-A or SD-card adaptors.
 
Whatever at this point. The catch will be +$100 in the starting price.
 
Quite right. What’s next - Macs with only USB-C? :)

The user-friendly time to switch the iPhone to USB-C would have been when they dropped the headphone jack and lots of people needed to buy new headphones, adapters, docks etc. Of course, that’s not the most profitable time...

As for the cable... Dear Apple, it’s an $800+ phone - stop being Scrooge and include both cables.

All Macbooks and Macbook Pros starting 2016 have USB-C included. USB-C adapter is the same as thunderbolt 3. The difference is in the protocol used by the chip, which enables thunderbolt 3 to go faster.
 
By one reading, they will, it's just gonna take time. The new iPads are old exterior shells with new innards, they've kept the old ports for that reason. By another reading there will remain two classes of devices, ones with Lightning and the ones with USB-C. Until last year that line was drawn between iPads and Macs, now it is drawn between non-Pro iPads and the iPad Pro, ie, just shifting the dividing line a bit.

I'm afraid that's going to be a rather long, painful wait. Apple just don't make it clear what's the line between Lightning devices and USB-C devices. My point earlier about my 10.5" iPad Pro was that iPad is almost just as fast as the newest 11" iPad Pro. The difference isn't "earth shattering" but Apple drew the first blood by dropping Lightning.

But then just a few days ago there were newly refreshed lower end iPads (Air and Mini) along with refreshed AirPods that stays with Lightning, delaying USB-C transition further.
 
Well everyone can stick with their own opinion. I stand by mine, that Apple should do the transition to USB-C as quick as possible. iPhone is the best place to start, just like the iPhone 5 introduced the Lightning port. In my opinion, the next iPhone should also make USB-C official.

I thought back in 2012, billions of Apple users also own a bunch of 30 pin cables laying around the house? Didn't stop Apple to make the switch, I see no reason to do the same now? It's not the end of the world, because Lightning would still work with older devices. And you do know Apple still sells the 30-pin until today, right? So it's not really a sudden death, just a stop gap that Apple should put a distinct line in between.

This may sound silly to you, but to me who happens to travel quite often, and own the new Macbook Air, with 11" iPad Pro and iPhone 8+ , then maybe you'll understand. Everything else is on USB-C except for this tiny little iPhone that requires one specific cable to charge.
I have to agree with you. I have an older MBP (USB-A) and iPad Pro (Lightning) so today I don't "need" USB-C on my iPhone. However, as I update my devices, I don't want to be in your current situation of having to carry multiple cables because of different ports.

Updating ports is a big deal when you have an enormous installed base with literally billions of cables and chargers in use around the world. It is not something that you do frequently because customers don't want to replace multiple cables and chargers on a regular basis. However, the Lightning connector is 7 years old (49 years old in computer years :)) and I believe the USB-C offers enough advantage in both data and charging speed to justify making the change now.
 
USB c to lightning? Looks like I won’t be upgrading again this year. Last year was the first time I didn’t upgrade annually and I’ve had iPhones since the 3GS lol.

Oh well maybe next year they’ll wise up and implement usbc into the iPhone
 
This type of article surfaces at least once a month.

A fast charger is the least of my interests. Not when I have access to my charger at home, at work, in the car, I can charge my iPhone anytime I need to and the 5W charger works perfectly fine for my needs. I suspect the 5 W charger Apple includes, (even though dated), works perfectly fine for the majority of iPhone consumers, that wouldn’t likely even really appreciate a fast charger anyways. I think if someone wants a fast charger, Apple should sell it separately for those who actually would appreciate it.
If apple took $10 off the price of the phone and left out the charger and lightning cable, I would buy that model.

Where to charge my phone is not an issue in 2109, for me. also the type of cable is not an issue. If I need a cable I’ll buy it for $7.99...like I used to buy school supplies..lol.

As far as the port in the phone, I’ll be surprised if apple gave up lightning any time soon.
 
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It’s a disgrace that they are still shipping a 5w wall plug with a phone in 2019.

It’s an even bigger disgrace that you have to spend another €60 on a usb c to lightning cable and wall plug when you buy an iPhone XS Max for €1680 In 2019 to get 2019 charging speeds.

They will probably drag their heels on ditching lightning for iPhone for the next 3 years too.

It’s reasons like this - inflated prices, lack of value and feature lag that are hurting Apple.
 
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It’s a disgrace that they are still shipping a 5w wall plug with a phone in 2019.

It’s an even bigger disgrace that you have to spend €60 on a usb c to lightning cable and wall plug when you buy an iPhone for €1180+ In 2019 to get 2019 charging speeds.

They will probably drag their heels on ditching lightning for iPhone for the next 3 years too.

It’s reasons like this - price and feature lag that are hurting Apple.
It's stuff like that which has put me off apple products they are just conning the customers with awful pricing and not giving you value for money for what it provides.

If they are going to change over 1k least give worthwhile features and fast charging out the box.. I live in hope apple adds more to the iPhone this year but no rumours suggest it will change.

IOS 13 could make things so much better we will see
 
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