This. They're planning bits for the 2020 iPhone now. The 2019 iPhone is in mass production, no time left to plan things for it.
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2019 iPhones to Include New 'R1' Sensor Coprocessor Codenamed 'Rose'
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Who cares⁉️?!
No iPhone user HAS to know anything about the "R1" coprocessor, they just have to enjoy its benefits without knowing about it, what it can do, and what it does behind the scenes to make their overall user experience better and more powerful.
As Apple Scientist Alan Kay once said, "In the future, technology will be invisible."
Heh - they still aren't letting go of the touch bar, even though no one cares about that and it costs a fortune to add what's essentially an iPad to a notebook.
This sounds like one of those features that might be very lucrative not to the users of the iPhone but to the people making money off them, like advertisers. That's classic "meh' - a business gold mine.So, out of a million people around you, you think only 5 of them have ever misplaced their keys in the past 5 years, and had to waste time hunting for them?
Hey, there are more than 5 lost cats postings per annum just in my local neighborhood. To say nothing about business inventory tracking, where is that box in this big warehouse, Alzheimer’s patient tracking, where is my car in this huge indoor garage, how do I find painting X in this museum, and etc.
You still think only 5? For all of the above?
What about when Apple built W1 with features that all of a sudden showed up in BT5 and now every truly wireless headphones manufacturer is jumping to asap?
It goes both ways.
It is Bluetooth's innovation. The fact that Apple has a member on the team doesn't change that.
My original post was in response to a claim that it was Apple's innovation without a single mention of Bluetooth. Since there remains zero evidence to suggest Apple is the source of these innovations my point stands.
The fact that people are desperate to attribute this innovation to Apple proves just how bare Apple's garden is.
Wait…
…wait…
Is THIS the rumored Apple "AMX Matrix" coprocessor, or is this in addition to the "Matrix coprocessor?
This may include/replace the "Motion coprocessor," but that coprocessor was specifically designed to monitor the different "motion components" while the iPhone was "asleep" for things like "Raise To Wake" and to monitor for "Hey Siri" — WITH low power/battery drain, as it allowed this monitoring to happen with little or no "CPU" involvement.
If this R1 "will add support for an inertial measurement unit (IMU), Bluetooth 5.1 features, ultra-wideband (UWB) and camera (including motion capture and optical tracking) sensor data" (as per the Macumors article),
that doesn't exactly speak "low power consumption" to me… (Maybe the M[#] coprocessor will stay?)
All told, will the iPhone 11's A13 SoC/SiP see a new iteration of the M[#] processor, PLUS the addition of the new "Matrix" coprocessor, PLUS the addition of this R1 coprocessor? (Wow!)
It's already known the A13's CPU will pack 10+ billion transistors, up from the A12's 6.9 billion.
But given this (or these) coprocessor(s), I think ALL current benchmarks will not show the true power of the new A13 until realworld benchmarks are created that specifically test the power of THIS "ARM-derivative" vs. OTHER ARM derivatives.
That being said, as of now, it is the proverbial, "Comparing Apples to Oranges."
With each iteration, the Apple A[#] line of processors are growing closer to being in an entire "class of their own," and not comparable to most other "ARM" designs.
…wait…
Is THIS the rumored Apple "AMX Matrix" coprocessor, or is this in addition to the "Matrix coprocessor?
This may include/replace the "Motion coprocessor," but that coprocessor was specifically designed to monitor the different "motion components" while the iPhone was "asleep" for things like "Raise To Wake" and to monitor for "Hey Siri" — WITH low power/battery drain, as it allowed this monitoring to happen with little or no "CPU" involvement.
If this R1 "will add support for an inertial measurement unit (IMU), Bluetooth 5.1 features, ultra-wideband (UWB) and camera (including motion capture and optical tracking) sensor data" (as per the Macumors article),
that doesn't exactly speak "low power consumption" to me… (Maybe the M[#] coprocessor will stay?)
All told, will the iPhone 11's A13 SoC/SiP see a new iteration of the M[#] processor, PLUS the addition of the new "Matrix" coprocessor, PLUS the addition of this R1 coprocessor? (Wow!)
It's already known the A13's CPU will pack 10+ billion transistors, up from the A12's 6.9 billion.
But given this (or these) coprocessor(s), I think ALL current benchmarks will not show the true power of the new A13 until realworld benchmarks are created that specifically test the power of THIS "ARM-derivative" vs. OTHER ARM derivatives.
That being said, as of now, it is the proverbial, "Comparing Apples to Oranges."
With each iteration, the Apple A[#] line of processors are growing closer to being in an entire "class of their own," and not comparable to most other "ARM" designs.
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You are being generous here.
Seriously though, you're so right. How many have used mega-hyped Apple AR so far? I don't mean 'tried it out once or twice' as a gimmick or to 'measure my table' once or twice. Like REALLY used it and could you live without it?
No. The R1 is a new rumor processor to prevent iPhone rumors from being released or even discussed!
Right on time to Apple bash, as usual, but you’re describing a Samsung and Android in general phenomenon where features are abandoned and go unsupported.
Apple generally continues to support features and doesn’t implement stuff that isn’t ready like Android competition.
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Impossible to measure, so don’t try or act like you know.
Importantly, it’s all about pushing a future. Apple is good at that.
People still think Animoji are about the characters and not facial recognition, 3d sensing, and AR possibilities.
You don't immediately jump to warp drive. You build on technologies and eventually they do more meaningful things.
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This sounds like another new step in Apple's process of offloading more tasks from the CPU to specialized, faster, lower-power-consumption chips in the same vein of GPGPU.
I'd guess it is the close cooperation between Apple's hardware engineers and software engineers that drives this process and these designs.
And Bawstun, why so negative and cynical?
No iPhone user will need to know the "R1" exists—so for those unaware, they can't "care" about it.
They'll just experience the benefits without knowing the under-the-hood minutiae (that interests me and many others, but not the majority of iPhone users).
(And they don't have to use the "Tile" app, AR or anything.)
Bawstun,
I don't understand your 0.00005% argument.
3D Touch and the "R1" coprocessor seems "Apples and oranges" to me.
3D Touch was something I saw as a User Experience/Ease of Use nightmare as soon as it was rumoured/introduced. I'm glad it's gone! It added "press" to the longstanding, simple experience of "touch." Complicated it.
I think it's more the case that it was an experiment that failed and an impediment to more advanced screen technologies that was behind Apple's decision to "drop" 3D Touch—not "to save money on hardware costs". To save money on the hardware costs of a better, more advanced, more expensive screens?! (Makes no sense.)
0.00005% will "care"? No kidding!
Geeks like me will care but most iPhone users won't even be required to know about the R1. They'll just experience the benefits—if they choose to use them—without thinking about it. That's the nature of modern technology.
Relentless Power: "But it’s interesting enough show us ‘techies’ the advances made…"
is exactly right—even if we're just "0.00005%."
Killjoy.
Assuming about 200M units sold, (about the same as the iPhone XS), that translates to 100 people, so I assume you are exaggerating a great deal. You are forgetting that the immense number of units sold makes even a tenth of a per cent into a relatively large number. And you are assuming that everyone has the same use-case as you.
Apple tends to introduce new hardware features with a roadmap for its use.
Off the top of my head, I would suggest that there are several ways that this could impact the "typical" consumer without requiring a whole new type of app:
- Improved inertial measurement would allow for significantly improved image & video stabilization.
- directional Bluetooth will allow the location of attached devices without having to make them "ping"
- improved inertial measurement will allow improved parallax calculations, thereby improving AR
I'm sure that there are hundreds of other use cases that I can't think about at the moment. The point is that Apple had a reason for developing this.
(with regards to the loss of 3D Touch, my understanding was that this was dropped due to technical reasons - they couldn't integrate it into the new, thinner display they built. Personally, I would rather have the 3D touch, because the camera bulge sticks out anyway, but that's just my opinion...)
These are all good points, and tie in with one of the big rumors of the 2020 phone being able to do much better navigation, including of major indoor spaces.
Granted, now we'll enter a new territory of privacy issues where if we have devices that are so accurate as to where we are exactly, and where we are going, how are the tech companies going to protect that information.
It might actually behoove people to entirely migrate away from the services of companies that are not taking big strides to protect data, one such principally being facebook. I know they're not popular in the first place, but a lot of people use them for business purposes, and I'm not sure how problematic it is to move away from them on a personal level while still trying to leverage the advertising potential that they have.
I wonder if Apple tags will generate more momentum than Apple's iBeacon? It was/is an Apple invention that allowed tiny near-field transmitters to broadcast unique identifiers to passing phones that would awaken associated apps and fetch pertinent notifications (ads mostly) from the web. For example, you could be shopping in Macy's and pass a beacon that is attached to a table of sale-priced sweaters. If you have the Macy's app installed on your phone, the beacon would trigger the app to fetch a message from the web pertaining to the sweaters. Lots of potential uses but the concept was hampered by the requirement to have a specific app for every beacon publisher.
I was thinking something more mundane such as Rapid Onboard Sensor Evaluation.
Your idea is much more exciting -- a universal translator (a la Star Trek)!
What would make me upgrade is one of the following:
- USB-C;
- FaceID that actually works when the phone is a little off-axis, so it doesn't require incredible precision while looking;
- pencil.
- USB-C;
- FaceID that actually works when the phone is a little off-axis, so it doesn't require incredible precision while looking;
- pencil.
The headphone jack being removed, yes, but the iPhone X included an adapter - why take that away? Not everyone wants to listen to overpriced Beats or Bose wireless headphones.
Apple is on the Board of Directors. You don’t get to be on the BofD without making significant contributions to the overall SIG, which all members benefit from. Even if proof exists, until it is disclosed to paying members, no one knows who created, innovated, discovered or originated what.
Stop moving the football because you can’t accept reality...do your research next time before opening your yap.