My understanding is yes. The challenge, as always, is getting the screen off and reattaching it afterwards, which is not something many people are comfortable with.
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2020 iMac Teardown Reveals Internal Changes and Similarities
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I think that's likely to be a theory, but it's never going to be viable compared with adding 4tb externally. You'd have to buy the full 8tb (2x4tb modules), and take the machine apart, and most likely have apple do it for you anyway because of the T2
Other than for people who have to run Windows, what exactly is the thing that makes someone buy one of these 2020 iMac 27” computers? If I had to guess, most sales will go to people who don’t know or understand Apple’s shift to their own silicon chips, and simply need / want to buy a new iMac (the classic unwitting consumer). I’m so uninterested in the slight upgrade that I’m not even sure why I’m reading about it now on this forum. I’m holding out for the actual new AS version of the iMac that will undoubtably be better in almost every way.
The reports regarding the cooling where the reason I did not upgrade my late 2014 iMac (512 GB SSD, i7, 16 GB RAM) with the 2019 iMac.
As I occasionally need x86 virtualisation I want a new Mac before Apple Silicone comes hoping that in a few years emulation can be used to execute x86 operating systems.
As I also want a quiete iMac I am wondering if I would ne better of buying the iMac Pro, although I am probably the only one who does not like the grey case. As I would buy the iMac somewhat maxed out with the fastest graphics, 32GB RAM and 4TB SSD the price difference would not be so much and would not be an issue. But I fear, rhat the iMac Pro, beeing the older model does not get updates as long as the 2020 iMac (btw., Apple should publish a clear roadmap for this).
An other option would be to keep my iMac for probably two more years, if it ladt that long, and buy an additional Mac Mini with intel processor.
What do you think?
As I occasionally need x86 virtualisation I want a new Mac before Apple Silicone comes hoping that in a few years emulation can be used to execute x86 operating systems.
As I also want a quiete iMac I am wondering if I would ne better of buying the iMac Pro, although I am probably the only one who does not like the grey case. As I would buy the iMac somewhat maxed out with the fastest graphics, 32GB RAM and 4TB SSD the price difference would not be so much and would not be an issue. But I fear, rhat the iMac Pro, beeing the older model does not get updates as long as the 2020 iMac (btw., Apple should publish a clear roadmap for this).
An other option would be to keep my iMac for probably two more years, if it ladt that long, and buy an additional Mac Mini with intel processor.
What do you think?
I'm well aware of the shift to AS, but I'm interested in one of these. I have a late 2013 MBP, and it might not be until late-2023/early-2024 before a 2nd generation large AS iMac is released. (I'm not interested in getting a first-generation model.) My 11" iPad Pro is now useful enough with the Magic Keyboard that I don't want a personal laptop anymore, and would rather have an AIO with a large screen. My computing needs are modest and I can stay within the Apple ecosystem, however, so I'd be better off with AS. I'm not sure I can wait for another 3+ years to upgrade, though. I view the 2020 iMacs like the 16" MBPs - A significant enough improvement to consider for an upgrade. A 2020 iMac would last me until it essentially becomes obsolete because of the software.
If I were you, I wouldn’t be as worried about a first gen AS iMac as you seem to be. Apple’s had years of experience and work on the AS desktop and laptop systems already.
Heck, the 2018+ iPad Pro’s have been better performers than many MacBooks, and they’re only going to get better with additional ram that desktop and laptops will make possible. The only unknown today is how they’re going to work with Windows emulation. I suspect that Microsoft will provide whatever help they can to make it work well, so that they can keep this part of the market.
I’m not even close to being worried that my early 2013 iMac 21.5” will survive until the AS iMac is launched. I do also have a mid-2013 rMBP 15” that my wife has been using for work that needs a new battery, but since she’s not traveling, I’m not going to spend the money to fix it at this point. I’d rather spend that money on a new AS MBP for her next year - assuming they’ll start rolling out in 2021.
Yes, but is it worth it for the upgrade price of the 4TB? A $1200 upgrade on the $2300 top tier imac. i.e. $3500!!!
You are going to spend $3500 so in the future you can get a now $1500 8TB m.2 for let's say $500, this is all to save the $1200 bump from 4TB to 8TB?
I have a better idea: put your $4000 in apple stock and watch it grow and keep your existing iMac and possibly upgrade RAM or its storage via thunderbolt 3.
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To save a couple bucks on a connector (that the system board was designed for) and to ensure the end user needs to buy a new iMac if they want more internal storage.
I’m willing to take a chance. My first Apple device was the first Macintosh, which I got in 1985. Other than having a 6S battery replaced for free by Apple because of the throttling episode, and the screen of a different 2013 MBP replaced for free by Apple because of the coating issue, both after the warranties ran out, I haven’t had an issue with any of the Apple products I‘ve owned over the past 35 years. I’ve long ago stopped purchasing AppleCare+ for anything.
Some people need a new Mac now and don’t want to wait for Apple Silicon to ship. Others may not be willing to take the risk with first generation hardware if they depend on the computer for work. Like you said said, some need Windows. I need a new MacBook and I may not wait for Apple Silicon.
Fair points. There’s nothing wrong with my late-2013 MPB, and whether good or bad, it’s been in clamshell mode 99% of its life, so the battery count is barely past single digits.
Apple are known to produce dodgy first generation products.
Apple silicon macs won’t hit their stride for at least 2-3 years.
Safe bet is to buy this intel iMac refresh and wait for the Apple silicon to improve and developers of popular software to adapt their stuff to run natively on it.
Apple silicon macs won’t hit their stride for at least 2-3 years.
Safe bet is to buy this intel iMac refresh and wait for the Apple silicon to improve and developers of popular software to adapt their stuff to run natively on it.
Regarding the so-called "Studio Quality" microphones, does anyone know if this is a first for AAPL ?
Disagree 100% on that !
From a HW perspective, it's mostly a DDR PHY Controller change to go from the A13 to a Mac !
The real challenge will be on the software side !
That could take many years !!
Well. It seems, on the software side, Apple has all its apps and big sur ready to rock and roll. With tantalising optimisations that were demo'd at WWDC2020.
Seems like this transition is way ahead of the last one.
Azrael.
This is the big concern when so many major developers run off the cloud.
For me I rely on Adobe Creative Cloud. And while Adobe usually drags their feet on updating for Mac, when they do a 2020 iMac goes from being production beast into a giant door stop.
Adobe DID drag their feet on porting to Intel Macs. NO question. But this time indicators are different.
In fairness. Adobe are already featured in the WWDC2020 AS preview. And they already have an iPad PS (fully featured or not...it's here...)
...and there's going to be alot of competition on the Mac now that it joins the iOS 'Family'/Universe of 'A' chips.
Tens of thousands of devs. Millions of apps. There will be pressure to get in there sooner than later.
What sort of work do you do on creative cloud? Image editing? Video? Web? DTP? Design?
Personally, I'm distancing myself from any corporations that boots me to touch with 'cloud' only business models. Or you buy the software to 'own' then they change it to subs only. Nasty.
Azrael.