2020 iPad Pro Said to Feature 3D Sensing Rear Cameras [Updated]

[brinary001]

Nope. The 2017 iPad Pro, released in June 2017, was slower in both single-core and multi-core benchmarks than both the iPhone 8, released in September 2017, and the iPhone X, released in November 2017. The Metal Score was only barely faster.

Huh, you don't say. So then what's the point of the "Pro" moniker being applied to the iPad line if it's only marginally faster at best? At least with Macs, the Pro series is always considerably more powerful than the regular versions. E.g. an iMac Pro smokes a normal iMac, a MacBook Pro runs laps around a MacBook Air, etc.

I really hope Apple decides once and for all what designates a pro device, but I will say they seem to be getting a lot better about distinguishing them these days.

 

[Berti10]

Everything in 2020 should have great iSight

 

[mannyvel]

Camera is not only used for taking photos, but is very useful in the pro devices for ‘scanning’ documents (by taking pictures of them), converting them into PDFs, and using  pencil to edit/sign

I do that with my iPP all the time. You can also do that on the phone now, in the notes app. Pretty handy.

That camera will make the IPP an even better field tool than it is today.

The bump is irrelevant, since every IPP user that I've seen hasa case of some sort. It's actually sort of silly, really, why you'd bother with a nice device finish if it just gets a case put on it immediately.

 

[Kal-037]

Apple would be breaking precedent by refreshing the iPad Pro in March 2020, as the tablet has gone roughly 18 months between hardware updates since first launching in November 2015 -- the second-generation 12.9-inch model was released in June 2017, followed by third-generation models in November 2018.​

"Breaking Precedent"? No, launching the next Pros in March 2020 would be 16-ish months, less than the usual 18 months that Apple refreshes. I think you have your math a tad incorrect there.
Came out 11th, November 2018... If we go by past releases in March for iPads it is somewhere in the halfway or last quarter mark. So it'd be from 11th November to lets say March 16 2020... That would be
16 Months, 3 Days, 23 Hours, 7 Minutes and 17 Seconds
I'd say that feels more like what Apple would usually do... but they may release them this Holiday, It'd be weird, but not unheard of by any means.

Kallum.
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2020 appears to be indeed “THE” year to update Apple gadgets with major iPhone and iPad update. Not this year.

That makes the most sense, but maybe Apple is changing up their release schedules. *weird.

 

[Zdigital2015]

Nope. The 2017 iPad Pro, released in June 2017, was slower in both single-core and multi-core benchmarks than both the iPhone 8, released in September 2017, and the iPhone X, released in November 2017. The Metal Score was only barely faster.

Current Geekbench Scores

SC MC METAL
iPhone 8: 4228 10194 15312
iPhone X: 4216 10163 15260
iPad Pro: 3914 9356 29658

Seems software optimizations have changed the Metal result drastically for the 2nd Gen iPad Pro as it is now almost 2x what the iPhone 8/X is currently.

The A11 Bionic made incredible strides versus the A10 Fusion in the iPhone 7 and slightly besting the A10X Fusion in the iPad Pro 2nd Gen.

It was a watershed moment for the iPhone, which continues to play leap frog with the iPad Pro. Whether that continues with the iPhone 11 or not remains to be seen.

 

[Zdigital2015]

Huh, you don't say. So then what's the point of the "Pro" moniker being applied to the iPad line if it's only marginally faster at best? At least with Macs, the Pro series is always considerably more powerful than the regular versions. E.g. an iMac Pro smokes a normal iMac, a MacBook Pro runs laps around a MacBook Air, etc.

I really hope Apple decides once and for all what designates a pro device, but I will say they seem to be getting a lot better about distinguishing them these days.

The current iPad Pro is now quite a bit faster in all aspects, but mainly in multi-core and Metal compared to the iPhone XR/XS/XS Max. The iPhone 11 may leap frog the 2018 iPad Pro in terms of performance, but then we will most likely see the 2020 iPad Pro leap over the iPhone 11 as is typical of Apple's strategy with the X variant of the CPU. Single core CPU scores are fairly close from the iPhone 7 on (http://browser.geekbench.com/ios-benchmarks/) while the multi-core begin diverging into discrete chunks that easy to see in the graphs provided.

Also, the iPad Pros have always been more than marginally faster when judged against the same non X version of the CPU when you figure out the actual percentage increase in processing speed.
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Anyone seen using an iPad to take a photo, when they have a more than capable camera phone in their pocket should be shot on sight!!!!

The best camera you have is the one in your hand, not necessarily in your pocket. Also, not everyone that owns an iPad carries a smartphone, so your assumption is just that, an assumption. As for getting shot on sight, well, I guess that depends on what the person taking pictures with their iPad is actually carrying in their pocket. Be careful what you wish for.

 

[Manzzle]

Why do they keep pushing this 3D thing on the camera. If it's for playing those games that they show off at the presentation then that's an easy pass. Like I really would like to be hovering my device in mid air to see something that not even there in real life.

 

[Q-Dog]

I would hope the 3d imager is capable of scanning objects that can then be imported into documents or 3d imaging programs.

 

[sledgehammer89]

I would buy an iPad without camera. Never use it on mine.

Now we know that you have no ideas for using the camera.

 

[Zdigital2015]

So many experts here with zero expertise makes for a more interesting Monday than usual.

 

[brinary001]

The current iPad Pro is now quite a bit faster in all aspects, but mainly in multi-core and Metal compared to the iPhone XR/XS/XS Max. The iPhone 11 may leap frog the 2018 iPad Pro in terms of performance, but then we will most likely see the 2020 iPad Pro leap over the iPhone 11 as is typical of Apple's strategy with the X variant of the CPU. Single core CPU scores are fairly close from the iPhone 7 on (http://browser.geekbench.com/ios-benchmarks/) while the multi-core begin diverging into discrete chunks that easy to see in the graphs provided.

Also, the iPad Pros have always been more than marginally faster when judged against the same non X version of the CPU when you figure out the actual percentage increase in processing speed.

This leads me to believe then Apple will update the iPad Pro almost immediately after they update the iPhones, if not alongside them. We still don't know what all will be shown off at Apple's September 10th event, other than new phones and watch of course. I could see them now maybe announcing new iPads and iPhones during the same yearly September event, so that way both get refreshed but the iPad Pro still remains more powerful than the new most powerful iPhone. Or at least hold off until an October event

 

[brinary001]

2020 appears to be indeed “THE” year to update Apple gadgets with major iPhone and iPad update. Not this year.

It's definitely going to be a packed release schedule! Supposedly they're reviving the iPhone SE next year as well with an all new design. Something tells me iOS 14 will be a HUGE redesign to match the extreme makeover of the iPhone line. But that's just my own speculation obviously, as we've heard no rumors whatsoever about next year's iOS version. And I don't even much to offer in terms of reasoning other than I just hope that it happens haha. And because Apple may do a "power of sevens" kind of thing since the last time iOS was completely redesigned was iOS 7.

But also the new flagship MacBook Pro is expected to launch before the year is over, most likely at an October event. So 2020 doesn't get all the good stuff

 

[dgdosen]

3D cameras aren't really a pro feature. Apple's just stretching. If Apple wants to be successful in the "augmented reality" space - it needs every device they sell using these things. Not just the 'pro' models.

That's why I'll predict these will be everywhere soon enough...

I think Apple is troubled trying to define compelling reasons to upgrade this year. I'm sure we'll hear the words 'amazing' quite a few times come 9/10.

 

[Unami]

Apple would be breaking precedent by refreshing the iPad Pro in March 2020, as the tablet has gone roughly 18 months between hardware updates since first launching in November 2015 -- the second-generation 12.9-inch model was released in June 2017, followed by third-generation models in November 2018.

Maybe my english is not good enough here here, but wouldn't "break precedent" mean "doing something different"?

If that's the case, I don't see that much of a difference between the 16 months from June 2017 to November 2018 and the 16 months from then until March 2020.

 

[Unami]

Anyone seen using an iPad to take a photo, when they have a more than capable camera phone in their pocket should be shot on sight!!!!

You don't just take photos with a time-of-flight camera. I guess it will be used more for measuring distance and getting accurate depth information (well,... for photos). If they release the ipads with those cameras first, there just won't be an iphone-camera with the same capabilities.

 

[Cosmosent]

It's also worth considering that the iPad rarely receives new features before the iPhone, with exceptions including LTE on the iPad 3 before the iPhone 5 in 2012, and the iPad receiving A4 and A5 chips before the iPhone.

Is this "Mac Rumors for Dummies" ?

What about the "Display P3" color space ???

 

[3rdiguy]

Would be nice if they could fix the current iPad Pro. This touch input issue drives me nuts. Just want to type a complete sentence the first time around. That’d be nice

 

[iDento]

Then you have to have a camera in the glasses and, so far, nobody likes the idea of someone having a camera staring at them. (Google Glass) I would love to have an AR display in my glasses, though. Like a HUD in a jet.

Fair enough. But before the Apple Watch I didn’t wear a watch, and I thought the AirPods were ugly and now I have both and use them daily. Apple can make the AR Glasses cool and everyone will be fine with cameras staring at them in no time, because marketing.

 

[mi7chy]

Sounds gimmicky to justify raising the price. They should focus on productive features or even add support for VP9 decoding so you can watch YouTube at >1080p on iPad Pro's 2732x2048 screen.

 

[AppleTO]

I don't care about AR or VR or a 3D camera. I hope this fad wears out. Like 3D TVs.

How about an OLED screen? The contrast on the 10.5" pro isn't great when you're watching movies in a dark room.

 

[Crowbot]

Fair enough. But before the Apple Watch I didn’t wear a watch, and I thought the AirPods were ugly and now I have both and use them daily. Apple can make the AR Glasses cool and everyone will be fine with cameras staring at them in no time, because marketing.

The last part about people being cool with the camera is the only one I would argue about.

 

[Pakaku]

I know it would probably limit adding more cameras in the future, but if this is true and the camera amalgamation is that big, I wonder why Apple hasn't thought about hiding the cameras in the apple logo?

 

[Crowbot]

I know it would probably limit adding more cameras in the future, but if this is true and the camera amalgamation is that big, I wonder why Apple hasn't thought about hiding the cameras in the apple logo?

I think they pretty much have to be in one of the corners. At least they need to be at an edge.

 

[jjudson]

Camera is not only used for taking photos, but is very useful in the pro devices for ‘scanning’ documents (by taking pictures of them), converting them into PDFs, and using  pencil to edit/sign

I'm pretty certain we don't need 3D imaging or ultra-high resolution for that...

I'm certain I don't.

The camera on the iPad is as functional as it needs to be. I doubt many would use an additional capabilities that Apple may see fit to add.

 

[kreasonos]

But will it bend?