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2021 Formula 1 Season Thread
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He actually started from the pit lane because his car cut out on the warm-up lap, resulting in a second warm-up lap. Pit lane start to fifth...pretty decent show I would say.
Did you actually watch the race? It was exciting, lots of action and a P1 battle until the flag, with 0.7s separating Hamilton and Verstappen.
Not complaining about the race especially with what we’ve witnessed the past 7 years. I’m okay with today’s race BUT Verstappen vs Hamilton at the end? Max had one chance, he went for it and blew it. There wasn’t going to be a second chance. If Max made the move stick, Hamilton would be a spec of dust in the distance but he missed and it was over. I wish we could see these guys battle it out for many laps but the cars and tires don’t allow for it.
You seem to have left out the part where Perez started last.
Doesn't matter.
The RBR is a car capable of reaching a podium from dead last. Both RB and Mercedes cars are.
Perez is terribly slow.
Yes. A sound and strong yes, because Verstappen would’ve done that in his situation.
I think we are being played here folks, don’t bother.
When you say you've been watching F1 for over 30 years, obviously you mean you've been glancing at the screen every now & then and that qualifies you as an expert.
Fun fact: You don't know me so you have zero rights to talk about me and/or how much I know about F1.
If you're going to come on here with a clear bias against someone and a "I've been watching for over 30 years so I know everything" attitude on a public forum, then I have a right to comment on it.
And if you don't like it, unlucky.
So I enjoyed the season opener. Great race between Lewis and Max there at the end. I’m the end Max couldn’t quite get the job done. Will those few points be the difference in 1st and 2nd in the WC title race come the end of the season? Hard to say at this point.
I need to see a few more races to see how close things are, as one track isn’t enough to say. Certainly closer than the start of other seasons. RBR always develop well so the championship might be won and list in Milton Keynes.
Not sure why the hate for Perez. Started last (not his fault). Finished 5th. With a decent qualifying he’d have been on the podium. Just remember how few hours he has had in that car. Less testing this year.
The colours might have changed but little else for Vettel. Poor qualifying. Poor race pace, then crashes. Penalty points to boot. A weekend to forget.
I need to see a few more races to see how close things are, as one track isn’t enough to say. Certainly closer than the start of other seasons. RBR always develop well so the championship might be won and list in Milton Keynes.
Not sure why the hate for Perez. Started last (not his fault). Finished 5th. With a decent qualifying he’d have been on the podium. Just remember how few hours he has had in that car. Less testing this year.
The colours might have changed but little else for Vettel. Poor qualifying. Poor race pace, then crashes. Penalty points to boot. A weekend to forget.
It certainly looks closer this year after round one. I hope the Bulls can push Lewis close this year as he is at his best when it’s wheel to wheel and we get the entertainment we’ve been lacking to years now. Perez was considered for driver of the race after his pretty damned good recovery from last. Maybe that initial setback gave him some valuable experience with settling into that car? I would imagine Red Bull are very happy with his performance.
I think Perez will do better as he learns the car. But if he’d have started in his qualifying I think he’d have been 3rd. Bottas days must be numbered.
I think @Bruninho is Bruno Senna...
I’ve been watching the latest series of ‘Drive to Survive’ on Netflix like I’m sure you all have too but it’s interesting to see how sterile Ferrari are as a team. Asking Vettel not to be ‘funny’ in front of the media and the way LeClerc has been moulded into an almost blank ambassador for the brand. The British teams (Mercedes included) seem to be the ones still with a sense of character whereas Ferrari are almost too professional for their own good. When Domenicalli was in charge we saw them open up a bit and he was a good personality in front of the media, now it’s back to the old sterile ways. Interesting I think.
Terribly slow, yet he’s the only driver to have ever won a race after being last on the first lap.
I am hoping for Hamilton and Russell in a Mercedes. But I feel Hamilton will retire if he wins this year.
most championships ever, new cars for 2022 no guarantee of how he will get on with them or that they have a good car. So maybe a win this year will be a good breaking point for him.
The race is the race. But still it has never happened before. Maybe luck fell in his favour, but you still need to perform.
Imagine how lucky you must be to finish 4th in the drivers championship while being such a slow driver.
There is no maybe: luck did fell on his favor, like it happened before to one time wonders like Panis, Herbert, Maldonado, Gasly and Perez. The list is full of crap drivers that happened to be on right place and right time even though they did not have the skill to win on their own.
Add to that, he was driving a Pink Mercedes. It was 100% a W10, Racing Point can deny it all they want, it is clear to me that Lawrence Stroll bought it. F1 is not IndyCar, you have to build your own car.
The race he “won” was awful. Pure luck, more luck than “sheer speed”. Mercedes messed up the strategy for George Russell who should’ve won the race to prove my point - that the Mercedes is a car that even if a racing fan from the grandstands could hop in and win the race. 👎🏼
But you need more than luck and a year old Mercedes to finish 4th in the championship. Particularly when your team mate in the same car finishes 11th.
Only twice in his F1 career has he finished behind his team mate. (lost once in his first year, then against button in 2013).
2014, 2015, 2016 his team mate was Hulkenberg, who Perez beat in each of those 3 years.
In only 3 of his season in F1 did Hulkenberg out score his team mate.
Your performance against a team mate is the only true indicator of performance of a driver, and unless you have data showing otherwise. All the evidence otherwise shows that Perez performs better over a season than Hulkenberg.
Only twice in his F1 career has he finished behind his team mate. (lost once in his first year, then against button in 2013).
2014, 2015, 2016 his team mate was Hulkenberg, who Perez beat in each of those 3 years.
In only 3 of his season in F1 did Hulkenberg out score his team mate.
Your performance against a team mate is the only true indicator of performance of a driver, and unless you have data showing otherwise. All the evidence otherwise shows that Perez performs better over a season than Hulkenberg.
"You need more than luck"
Yeah... Enter Mercedes f***ing up Russells pit stop. There, done.
His teammate was another pay driver and incredibly crap too - Lance Stroll, the son of his boss. So, not a good reference to mention his 11th place. Money can get you into F1. But without talent you're just a taxi driver. And F1 actually is full of taxi drivers, except for Verstappen, Hamilton, Alonso, Raikkonen and Tsunoda.
Stroll and Perez are garbage, end period. Perez even struggled to beat Ocon on the same car, they have even crashed into eachother several times. They just didnt beat Grosjean and Magnussen in this particular "battle of stupid crashes".
Perez had his chance in a McLaren and got pwned by Button. The same Button that pwned Hamilton when they were together in 2 of 3 seasons. It will be no different with Red Bull and Verstappen. Except, that he will be much more destroyed by Verstappen than Albon and Gasly were.
Perez "performed" better than Hulkenberg because he was actually paying for the car with Telcel money! He got the upgrades first, he had every privilege he paid for. Hulk was just the second car. Not fair.
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