iPhone 13 mini 2022 - Is this the year where the iPhone mini sales takes off?!

[shamus99]

Not really using mask… but both work great.

Control center is easier to swipe up, but 13 mini swipe up is very intuitive as well.

They honestly both have their pluses. Love the longer mini but for some reason SE screen seems bigger???

I don’t care which one they keep, but would like to know now so I don’t get too used to one.

 

[ignatius345]

Hey how do you like FaceID compared to TouchID? How well does FaceID work with masks?

I was skeptical of FaceID after years of TouchID. But honestly the experience is overwhelmingly that the phone just ends up being unlocked when you go to use it, without it seeming like I'm doing anything but looking at it which I was doing anyway. As for masks, the last iOS update introduced the ability to unlock while wearing a mask. I tried it and it works as advertised. It's apparently a lower level of security since it's disregarding half your face, but it's a whole lot better than using a PIN like I was doing...

 

[JPack]

According to the terrible chart in the latest US sales story, the SE is actually selling worse than both the Mini 12 & Mini 13 at around 2%... Of course MR forgot to mention this:

Just 3% of U.S. iPhone Sales in March Quarter Were iPhone 13 Mini Models

The 5.4-inch iPhone 13 mini continues to be unpopular with customers, according to U.S. iPhone sales data for the March quarter that was shared by...

www.macrumors.com

The SE 2022 is that tiny 'brown' line, 4th from the left. Which is smaller than either the Mini 13 (yellow, right-most) or 12 (green, left of that huge blue iPhone 13 block).

The fact that you can even compare iPhone SE sales to the iPhone 12 and 13 mini tells you how bad the mini is selling.

The SE uses an 8 year old form factor with a single rear camera. It’s expected to be slow selling. The mini design is only 1.5 years old.

 

[CrazyForCashews]

The SE uses an 8 year old form factor with a single rear camera. It’s expected to be slow selling. The mini design is only 1.5 years old.

Mini phone, big price. The Mini is significantly more expensive than the SE. A huge factor for a person's purchasing decision.

The price has always been the Mini’s Achilles heel.

 

[Mac47]

Just received mine today, base 128 GB mini with Apple's leather case in dark cherry and matching Magsafe wallet. I upgraded from an old 6s+.

+ FaceID is brilliant. Most of the time, I forget it’s there. It just works.
+ This is my first OLED iphone, so I wasn’t prepared for how nice OLED is. Makes me hope for OLED iPads someday.
+ The size is brilliant. For those who are coming from a plus size phone (6+, 6s+, 7+, 8+, basically anything before the Pro Maxes), you will not feel like you’ve lost any screen size, yet you’ll be holding a phone smaller than the SE2 and other non-plus models. It can live happily in the front pocket of a pair of non-baggy, slim fit jeans. The big phones can’t do that.
+ One-handed use is great for me. (I have medium-sized hands.)
+ It is crazy fast. So far, everything is instant. This is especially noticeable for those of us who are upgrading from an older phone. My 6s+ was nearly unusable on the latest version of iOS.
+ The camera takes better photos than the old 6s+ camera.
+ I love the MagSafe wallet. And it’s very cool that it works with the FindMy app.
+ The battery life is great. (But I’m really hesitant to charge with MagSafe because I’ve read that it will degrade my battery.)

- Only one downside: the price.

 

[JPack]

Mini phone, big price. The Mini is significantly more expensive than the SE. A huge factor for a person's purchasing decision.

The price has always been the Mini’s Achilles heel.

If consumers want the mini, the price isn't a big deal. Let's say it's overpriced (which I disagree with), by $50 or $100. Neither of those cuts would double or triple sales, which is what it would take to keep the product viable. The product either sells or it doesn't. For example, iPhone XR sold well at $749 but even better when iPhone 11 was at $699.

 

[CrazyForCashews]

If consumers want the mini, the price isn't a big deal. Let's say it's overpriced (which I disagree with), by $50 or $100. Neither of those cuts would double or triple sales, which is what it would take to keep the product viable. The product either sells or it doesn't. For example, iPhone XR sold well at $749 but even better when iPhone 11 was at $699.

You still don’t get my point.

A Mini phone should have a Mini price. That’s how the human mind usually works. People associate bigger things with a bigger price, and smaller things with a smaller price.

 

[JPack]

You still don’t get my point.

A Mini phone should have a Mini price. That’s how the human mind usually works. People associate bigger things with a bigger price, and smaller things with a smaller price.

The mini is the least expensive iPhone with thin-bezels and 5G. The mini is already mini priced.

And quite frankly, most people aren't stupid. They understand smaller things can be more expensive because the product has better features such as camera, display, and materials. Otherwise, the 5.8" iPhone XS and 11 Pro would have never sold well against 6.1" iPhone XR and 11.

Price wasn't the downfall for the mini. The display size was.

 

[Dealmans]

Price wasn't the downfall for the mini. The display size was.

I agree the price is too much for a small display

 

[MayaUser]

I agree the price is too much for a small display

Yes, the display size is one of the most expensive component of a smartphone

 

[subjonas]

If I could have an original SE with updated specs, I would pay flagship prices. I simply do not want anything bigger.

My OG SE lacks some desired features but is still going strong otherwise. But if I had to choose right now, I’m torn between the 13 Mini and SE3. The Mini is narrower and has flat edges, which helps to make it easier to grip securely and use with one hand. It has a better camera, more storage, and UWB. The SE3 has a shorter screen, which helps to make it easier to use with one hand. It has thick forehead/chin bezels, which helps make it easier to handle the phone securely, especially when taking photos with one hand in landscape orientation. And it has Touch ID which I very strongly prefer over Face ID. Other differences between the phones I don’t really care about.
I would definitely choose the 13 Mini if it only had some form of Touch ID. I’d probably pay flagship prices for that too (though I’d definitely pay more if it was the OG SE casing). I’m actually low-key hoping that one of the upcoming next SEs will be the 13 Mini casing with a Touch ID power button—and that my OG SE will last me until then.

 

[Marty_Macfly]

If I could have an original SE with updated specs, I would pay flagship prices. I simply do not want anything bigger.

My OG SE lacks some desired features but is still going strong otherwise. But if I had to choose right now, I’m torn between the 13 Mini and SE3. The Mini is narrower and has flat edges, which helps to make it easier to grip securely and use with one hand. It has a better camera, more storage, and UWB. The SE3 has a shorter screen, which helps to make it easier to use with one hand. It has thick forehead/chin bezels, which helps make it easier to handle the phone securely, especially when taking photos with one hand in landscape orientation. And it has Touch ID which I very strongly prefer over Face ID. Other differences between the phones I don’t really care about.
I would definitely choose the 13 Mini if it only had some form of Touch ID. I’d probably pay flagship prices for that too (though I’d definitely pay more if it was the OG SE casing). I’m actually low-key hoping that one of the upcoming next SEs will be the 13 Mini casing with a Touch ID power button—and that my OG SE will last me until then.

I am on the same wavelength!

Paying the premium for what i want, rather than a huge brick.

Technical difficulties making it? thats where the premium price comes in.

 

[CEmajr]

I’m glad that Apple did take a shot and make the small iPhone for all of those I used to see complaining about it on the internet. So either they didn’t put their money where their mouth was or in actuality they were just a small, but vocal minority of users. Either way the market has spoken and it clearly no longer has interest in small phones.