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iMac 24'
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iPad SE 10.2'
iPad 8.3' & 10.9
iPad Pro 11' & 12.9'

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iPhone 5.4' & 6.1
iPhone Pro 6.1 & 6.7

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How would one carry around a 12 foot MacBook let alone a 16 foot MacBook Pro?

They'd probably cost a fortune too. :p
 
In the name of “consistency”, we have some terrible marketing managers in this comment section :). Those “consistent” lines are just boring. Of course, iPhone 13 Pro Max is much better than iPhone Pro 6,7” (2021 edition). AirPods Max is better than AirPods Studio. M1 Pro is better than M1X. Yes, we had A6X in the iPad, but it wasn’t the main selling point and differentiator, so it didn’t matter. In the end, the best strategy is going product by product, individually. People don’t have a vision of all the line-up, they care about individual products. Some categories need more classical names, some need to stand out (specially smartphones), etc.
 
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I want a Mac Mini Pro. Just put a Max chip in there. I don’t care if it somehow has a notch too.

I would expect Apple will sell tons of Mac minis if they put M1 Pro & M1 Max SoCs in them; plenty of folks with existing desktop setups (multiple monitors, keyboard, mouse, speakers. printer, external drives, etc.) that just want a new Mac to replace their existing desktop system...!

Professionals need internal expandability in their computers.

False, SOME professionals need internal expandability, not all... !
 
I believe that it also be a justification for price increase for those iMac Pros.
 
For the iPad, They could have used "SE" for entry level, "iPad" for the current "iPad Air", and "iPad Pro". This would give an entire uniformity.
They don't even need SE, or "mini" for that matter. iPad and iPad Pro.
The craziest part right now is that they have both the "iPad" and the "iPad Air." I forget which is better. Really the best way to specify an iPad at this point is <year, price>. "I have the 2020 $500 iPad."
 
I still remember the day Apple announced the MacBook name and thought it was garbage. I’ve gotten used to it, but the name PowerBook is so much sexier. PowerBook and PowerBook Pro would even be more preferable to me than MacBook, even if it was a reference to PowerPC.

Then again, if you think of how weird a “notebook” computer sounds, the name MacBook appears incredibly odd. Like, it’s not a book! It’s a computer!

I would like to see them named the “Macintosh Portable” and “Macintosh Desktop” or have unique model names like Lisa. A revitalization of the original brand would be welcome, including the rainbow logos on the computers. Even the iMac is just a holdover brand too at this point.
 
Cook doesn’t come up with the names, marketing does. Why does everyone seem to think Cook does everything at Apple? Do you know what a CEO does?

It comes from a weird "Steve Jobs did all kinds of things, and Cook doesn't, therefore, Cook bad" attitude.

And Steve did in fact come up with a name for the iMac. Just… for some reason, "MacMan" did not in fact make the final cut.
 
I would expect Apple will sell tons of Mac minis if they put M1 Pro & M1 Max SoCs in them; plenty of folks with existing desktop setups (multiple monitors, keyboard, mouse, speakers. printer, external drives, etc.) that just want a new Mac to replace their existing desktop system...!



False, SOME professionals need internal expandability, not all... !
Some do but a hell of a lot don’t [like every creative I know].
 
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By that logic, I wonder why Steve dropped ‘i’ from consumer notebooks when introducing the MacBook?

If ‘i’ was such an important piece in the naming convention for consumer devices, shouldn’t it have remained iBook or (worse) iMacBook?
He said so during the keynote when they were released. He wanted the Mac name to be used throughout the product line so no iBook and no PowerBook.
 
“iMac Pro”—a name that shows Tim Cook’s cluelessness and that he is not a product person (because he is an MBA suit who cares more about shareholders than users).

Cook messed up Apple naming conventions. i-devices are named with an “i” to show that they are consumer devices. “Pro” devices are named with “Pro” to show that they are professional devices. That naming convention was created under Steve Jobs because he was a product person (because he cared more about users than about shareholders).

The iMac was created for the consumer market. The Mac Pro was created for professionals. The iMac Pro is a joke of a name because, although it is the most technologically advanced computer in the iMac line, it is not internally expandable like the Mac Pro. Professionals need internal expandability in their computers.

The iPhone Pro is a joke of a name because, although it is the most technologically advanced smartphone on the market, it is not predominantly a device for professionals.

Cook messed up other names, too. He messed up the “MagSafe” name by applying it to a phone charger that has absolutely nothing to do with keeping the phone safe from damage in the event that the wire is pulled.

Cook messed up the “Air” name which was meant to be the lightest weight product in a given category (because air is light). Under Jobs, the MacBook Air used the name “Air” because it was the lightest product in the MacBook product line. Under Clueless Cook, a MacBook named just “MacBook” was released which was lighter than the then-available MacBook Air. Also, the iPad Air is not the lightest iPad.

Sorry, but the "i" in iMac was to show it was optimized for the Internet, which was a new thing for the non-educational/scientific/military market at the time. The name was a short-term tactic to help create a differentiate product to save a company that was in a death spiral. The "i" stood for "i'm desperate."
 
Pricing for this thing is going to be ridiculous. I wish they woulf offer a regular larger screened iMac as well as an iMac Pit is very plausible that it will be priced crazy high, like the last iMac Pro was. Then again, maybe Apple will surprise us all with a budget version and then maxed out more expensive options. I would find a $2000 27+ new iMac to be reasonably priced - as long as the specs were similar to the entry level 2021 MacBook pros. If I were pricing them, Id do a 2000 version, a 2500 version and a 3000 version, with accompanying levels of power/performance. If they price it at 4 grand to start, like they did with the previous iMac Pro, that would be appalling.
 
How do you know?
Maybe they will offer three versions, with M, M Pro, and M Max options?
It really wouldn't hard from a manufacturing point of view.

But of course, no matter what they sell, and no matter how good it is people are always going to complain.
If the low end M-based version costs $1000, people are going to whine that it's unfair that they have to pay $2500 for the Max version...

Thank you for stating that I was complaining when I was simply making an observation on how I think they will be priced :rolleyes:
 
No matter what’s it’s called it will never be more confusing than PC model names. A total under appreciated feature of macs is the simplicity of viewing the mfr year and specs in one place on all macs. The three different PC modes I have in my work office required lots of internet scouring to figure out build dates and specs.
On business machines, literally every business computer out there has this on it. Dell, HP, Lenovo.... all do this.
All you need to if flip it over or turn it around.

On a consumer device, it's literally the same for Windows and Apple computers. You have to look it up in your "about this pc" or "about this mac. Its a click simpler on a Mac. Literally 1 extra click on Windows.



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On business machines, literally every business computer out there has this on it. Dell, HP, Lenovo.... all do this.
All you need to if flip it over or turn it around.

On a consumer device, it's literally the same for Windows and Apple computers. You have to look it up in your "about this pc" or "about this mac. Its a click simpler on a Mac.



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Not sure what your point is.

If you go to apple.com, you get the MacBook Air and the MacBook Pro, the latter in three sizes. It's a bit confusing that the 14 and 16 are quite different than the 13, but other than that, that's a very clean line-up.

If you go to dell.com… do you want a laptop "for home" or "for business" (what difference does it make??)? Do you want an XPS, Inspiron, Alienware, G Series, or Chromebook? Or do you perhaps want a Vostro or a Precision?

They're so confused about this themselves that they've made "which one is right for you?" pages that don't really tell you much. A Vostro is apparently best if you want… video conferencing?

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But if you want "social video chatting" (what?), you better get an Inspiron instead!

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This is a mess and everyone involved needs to be fired. Then they need to poach folks from Apple.
 
“iMac Pro”—a name that shows Tim Cook’s cluelessness and that he is not a product person (because he is an MBA suit who cares more about shareholders than users).

Cook messed up Apple naming conventions. i-devices are named with an “i” to show that they are consumer devices. “Pro” devices are named with “Pro” to show that they are professional devices. That naming convention was created under Steve Jobs because he was a product person (because he cared more about users than about shareholders).

The iMac was created for the consumer market. The Mac Pro was created for professionals. The iMac Pro is a joke of a name because, although it is the most technologically advanced computer in the iMac line, it is not internally expandable like the Mac Pro. Professionals need internal expandability in their computers.

The iPhone Pro is a joke of a name because, although it is the most technologically advanced smartphone on the market, it is not predominantly a device for professionals.

Cook messed up other names, too. He messed up the “MagSafe” name by applying it to a phone charger that has absolutely nothing to do with keeping the phone safe from damage in the event that the wire is pulled.

Cook messed up the “Air” name which was meant to be the lightest weight product in a given category (because air is light). Under Jobs, the MacBook Air used the name “Air” because it was the lightest product in the MacBook product line. Under Clueless Cook, a MacBook named just “MacBook” was released which was lighter than the then-available MacBook Air. Also, the iPad Air is not the lightest iPad.

So how did Steve see the Mac Mini then?
 
You can't see how "ridiculous" can be read as a complaint?

Nope. I can see ridiculous as being super expensive. Doesn’t mean I’m complaining about it, just means I think it will be “ridiculously” priced. It also doesn’t mean I won’t buy it as I currently use an iMac Pro now.

Thank you though for attempting.
 
I disagree with that. I’m a professional user and have an iMac Pro and a MacBook Pro. I don’t need internal expandability in my computers. Some Pros will, but in 2021 the vast majority won’t.
That's you. So when you hit a wall with memory and storage, or graphics cards, you go out and drop a crap pile of cash on a whole new machine.

For everyone else not wanting to chuck a$3K-$12K machine in the trash after a few years where the processor, display, and most things are still perfectly fine for the software out there for years to come but needs more ram or storage that is hundreds of dollars vs. thousands, being able to upgrade and expand is important.
“iMac Pro”—a name that shows Tim Cook’s cluelessness and that he is not a product person (because he is an MBA suit who cares more about shareholders than users).

Cook messed up Apple naming conventions. i-devices are named with an “i” to show that they are consumer devices. “Pro” devices are named with “Pro” to show that they are professional devices. That naming convention was created under Steve Jobs because he was a product person (because he cared more about users than about shareholders).

The iMac was created for the consumer market. The Mac Pro was created for professionals. The iMac Pro is a joke of a name because, although it is the most technologically advanced computer in the iMac line, it is not internally expandable like the Mac Pro. Professionals need internal expandability in their computers.

The iPhone Pro is a joke of a name because, although it is the most technologically advanced smartphone on the market, it is not predominantly a device for professionals.

Cook messed up other names, too. He messed up the “MagSafe” name by applying it to a phone charger that has absolutely nothing to do with keeping the phone safe from damage in the event that the wire is pulled.

Cook messed up the “Air” name which was meant to be the lightest weight product in a given category (because air is light). Under Jobs, the MacBook Air used the name “Air” because it was the lightest product in the MacBook product line. Under Clueless Cook, a MacBook named just “MacBook” was released which was lighter than the then-available MacBook Air. Also, the iPad Air is not the lightest iPad.
I agree with you that the pro convention is a joke, but this is somewhat of touch with reality and history.

This is very out of touch with reality. "i" devices was marketing scheme during the rise of the internet. It signified that the products were easy to connect to the internet without complex configurations that were often required on windows computers at the time. While iMacs and eMacs and iBooks were consumer level hardware, that's not what the "i" marketing was about.
i-Life was a suite of software that complemented the internet with media at the time. Online access to music, sharing pictures online intuitively and easily. Making movies for YouTube or back in the day, to burn on a dvd. iPod... mp3s downloaded form the internet.... iMac.... internet connected mac... The "i" moniker was there to highlight ease of internet interoperability in Apple products.... hardware and software. Plug in your phone cord or ethernet jack and it just worked and you were online. Don't forget Apple had online subscription tools to complement all of this back then too well before iCloud including email and other stuff. iWork further built on this in its replacement of Apple Works.

Well before Tim Cook became CEO of Apple and while Steve Jobs still breathed, the "i" marketing was wound down because it wasn't relevant anymore. Power PC died and transitioned to Intel, and with that change, Jobs rolled out the Macbook and Macbook Pros to show distinction between chips. There were PowerPC towers that were consumer level.... PowerPC did not mean "professional."

Steven Jobs started this pro moniker before he died. Tim Cook is only guilty of taking it to further extremes in ways Steve Jobs would have totally done himself because he wrote that playbook. "Let's put a minor feature difference in almost the same product and throw pro on it and charge an ass load of money more.... people will pay. Give it some minor distinction so that peolpe now who has the cheaper one to make people pay for status."

Don't blame Tim Cook for doing what Steven Jobs started before he died.
 
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