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I don't see this rumor as anything more than wishful thinking.

Those screens at that size is something Apple would charge no less than $3,000 on top of whatever computer is attached to it. So basically a screen that big and expensive with the equivalent of something no slower than a Macbook pro connected to it. So subtract the price of the macbook pro screen and you have the base configuration of the iMac with that screen. What is that? $4,000 minimum? Thats a pretty big jump from a line that will start at around $2,000.

The new iMacs will probably range from $2,000 all the way up to $3,000 and not have the best screens, just better ones than the current iMac and almost as good as the current Macbook Pro's, probably the same kinds of screens the M2 macs will come with standard.
This rumor is mainly about iMac Pro, not the standard 27-inch iMac. Should Apple offer both 27-inch iMac and 27-inch iMac Pro, I am betting mini-LED (liquid retina XDR) would be reserved only on the pro model.

According to Mark Gurman of Bloomberg, Apple's 27-inch standalone mini-LED display will retail at about half the cost of Pro Display XDR, or around $2,499. So for 27-inch iMac Pro, $1,999 (14-inch MacBook Pro) + $2,499 (standalone display) = $4,498.

I am perplexed as to how Apple can squeeze in so many more local dimming zones while cutting the price in half for only 30% reduction in screen real estate. I guess it's all about the manufacturing yield?

For 27-inch iMac, Apple will likely reuse standard 5K LCD panel, and perhaps M2 (rumored for June availability). So it should be able to maintain the previous $1,799 starting price.
 
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Apple still announces "professional" hardware at WWDC and the iMac Pro, Mac mini Pro and Mac Pro are all "professional" hardware.

There was no new hardware at WWDC in 2020 or 2021.

Comparing virtual WWDCs to pre-pandemic events is iffy. At an in-person conference, Apple would have thousands of developers eager to get hands-on with hardware following the announcement. At a virtual conference, it wouldn’t.

Are developers more likely to pay attention to an Apple hardware announcement because it coincides with WWDC? To put it another way, are they more likely to miss the announcement if it doesn’t coincide with WWDC? Probably not. The only real benefit to announcing at WWDC would be if the new hardware contains some feature developers have to specifically code for.
 
Here's a hint, TSMC hasn't even announced the start of N4 volume production. There won't be M2 until much later this year.
And it would be a very weird marketing decision to launch an M2 MBP or Air alongside an M1 Pro/Max iMac Pro. Apple would never do that and would just wait until fall to launch M2, even if it were ready.
 
My fear is that with 24-inch (23.5-inch screen size) having more than 75% of the screen real estate of 27-inch iMac, Apple may designate 27-inch only to Pro configurations.

I sure hope not, as the price difference between $1,299 entry level iMac and supposed $4,999 iMac Pro is so vast.

All the leakers have indicated that the iMac Pro will start around $2,000, not $5,000.
 
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Whatever screen size fits within the current frame, could be 29.5 and I would be pulling my wallet out for that…
If it remains at 27 I will be seriously looking at a beefed up mini with nice monitor when it comes to replace my iMac
29 sounds good.. the issue for me isn’t more real estate being bad, but the bigger the monitor the farther apart the dock and menu bar.. you can up cursor speed but it's still ground to cover and more to take in visually
 
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I fully expect the entry level machine will be around $2499 or less with an 8/14 M1 Pro, 16GB of RAM and 512GB of SSD. You can then add up to $4000 in options (M1 MAX 10/32, 64GB of RAM, 8TB SSD, NanoTexture Glass, 10GB Ethernet). If Apple also offers an "M1 MAX Duo", throw in another couple grand for that and 128GB of RAM.

The current 27" model starts at $1,799.. That price point with 16GB/512GB the entry-level standard is possible. But the iMac Pro started at $5k.. depending on the depth of the rebrand - is it in name only? or is the 24" close enough to the 27" in screen space that they're making the 27+" premium? - I could see $2500 to start..
 
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There was no new hardware at WWDC in 2020 or 2021.

Comparing virtual WWDCs to pre-pandemic events is iffy. At an in-person conference, Apple would have thousands of developers eager to get hands-on with hardware following the announcement. At a virtual conference, it wouldn’t.

Are developers more likely to pay attention to an Apple hardware announcement because it coincides with WWDC? To put it another way, are they more likely to miss the announcement if it doesn’t coincide with WWDC? Probably not. The only real benefit to announcing at WWDC would be if the new hardware contains some feature developers have to specifically code for.
Why "save" the 27 iMac unveiling to show developers? You want to show it to consumers.
 
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I’ve got a decision to make if it’s an Apple Silicon device. (Probably is.) I enjoy playing pc games in BootCamp. My 2020 27 inch iMac is maxed out and I can access things like MSFS 2020 and Red Dead Redemption II. I’ll probably sit tight for awhile.
You might consider keeping that Intel iMac just to play legacy games and do everything else on a new, much faster AS iMAC.
 
Knowing full well that a 2022 iMac 27" (Pro etc.) with M-series chip was around the corner, I decided to get a fully loaded 2021 intel iMac 27". That, along with a LG 5K UltraFine display, has been an absolute dream combination. I still use plenty of Intel/legacy apps, so by doing this, I hope to get through the "early days" of the M chips this way.
I also have this same 2x 27" display combo and really appreciate the matching panels with my home power setup. My dream pandemic WFH setup.

The following details are definitely overkill and borderline on bragging, not my intent: but in anticipating a lot more travel this year I decided to also get an M1 Pro 16" a few months ago and it was great having it as my daily driver for the nearly 7 weeks I was away. (Using my Pro as a second screen with Sidecar and trying out Universal Control on the tail end as the beta dropped.) The other ~7 week period I was away this fall I had driven, so I actually brought my iMac along plus an older 13" MacBook I had at the time. It was nice to have the screen real estate, but wasn't practical for working from certain accommodations / bringing on certain legs of travel. Fearing theft and wanting extra vehicle space, I left the Mac with family in the area for some of the time. (Mostly I was staying with extended family, so it was great to have while settled in with them.)

Back at home now with Universal Control (UC) I have an interesting hybrid setup: the MacBook is just floating next to one of the 27" displays on a stand. From that one I can run my Apple Silicon-only apps easily (like Yahoo Finance) and use the nicer portrait blur for Zoom calls. The LG 27" gets paired up with whichever is doing more heavy lifting that day. UC certainly makes working between various combos of these devices much more seamless than my old attempts at KVM.

I really mentioned this to share: both machines are smooth as butter compared to previous (decently spec'd) Macs I've worked on. And the M1 Pro does it with a lot less fan noise and available memory. It is a great machine!

Eventually I may sell the 2020 27" iMac if it isn't getting enough love with more time away, but I do appreciate having the best "screens" for the job which suit the environment I am currently working in. For the time being the 0%@46mo financing I got on the MacBook made for a relatively light hit on the wallet up front, so I decided to a more complex Mac mix for now and will see where I end up longer term.

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Unrelated, I wonder what they'll do with the 32-inch XDR if rumours are true. I'd imagine if a 27+ iMac comes out with Mini LED specs too close to that model (and a superior number of dimming zones) it'll make for much tougher value differentiation between the two products given the big jump in $$$.
 
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The elephant in the room is, at what price? Can entry level iMac Pro with M1 Pro and 27-inch mini LED hit $4,999 price point?

Earlier rumor pegged Apple releasing a standalone 27-inch mini-LED display at about half the price of Pro Display XDR, or $2,499. So that suggests Apple charging a $1,000 premium over 1st generation iMac Pro, or $5,999.
You need to look at the price range of the overall 27” iMac and (mostly) forget about the older iMac Pro. That iMac Pro was fitted with a Xeon and was meant to replace the Mac Pro before they switched directions and brought out the current Mac Pro. After that they never touched the iMac Pro. In this case, “Pro” is likely to just mean the larger iMac. This new 27” iMac (Pro?) will likely get the M1 Pro/Max SOCs. It is unclear if it will ever get the 2x or 4x CPUs that are speculated for the Mac Pro.

The current 27” iMac starts at $1800. With a mini-LED display they will probably need to raise that base price but they can’t raise it so much that no one buys it. $5999 would just scare people away. Look at the MBP. The new mini-LED MBP is only a few hundred dollars more than the previous Intel MBP. A new 27” iMac would probably only start a little more than a 16” MBP.
 
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I still think the Hero hardware product will be the Mac Mini, loaded with all to the max and add more Ram later,with outlets for extra displays and other that are not in 24” iMacs.
So it’s a Mac mini and a display of your choice.
 
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Mac Pro was announced in 2019 but there were no hardware product announcements in 2020 or 2021 if I remember correctly.

You're probably right that there is a pricing related issue, but I'm not sure why the total number would need to be significantly lower than the iPad Pro in order to control price.

I can only guess here, but perhaps it is due to the cost of the control logic for so many units. Or perhaps that many units would generate too much heat? The TCL 8-Series 65" is said to have a claimed 1000 zones with 25,000 LEDs and this is said to be significantly more than any other 65" television - even ones costing many multiples more. If a 13" iPad Pro or 16" MacBook Pro can have 10,000 LEDs. one would think a 65" TV could have 40,000 or more, yet even 25,000 is said to be exceptional and unique.


This rumor is mainly about iMac Pro, not the standard 27-inch iMac. Should Apple offer both 27-inch iMac and 27-inch iMac Pro, I am betting mini-LED (liquid retina XDR) would be reserved only on the pro model.

I could see Mini-LED, like Nano-Textured Glass, being an option. However, I could also see Apple just making it standard and adding in the extra couple hundred dollars to the base price.

I am perplexed as to how Apple can squeeze in so many more local dimming zones while cutting the price in half for only 30% reduction in screen real estate. I guess it's all about the manufacturing yield?

The Pro Display XDR does not use Mini-LED for it's 576 local dimming zones. I am presuming they are all custom parts to support the performance and that very likely contributes to the expense and why it needs active cooling with all those crevices in the aluminum backplane to improve thermal conduction.

Moving to Mini-LED likely reduces the power draw and heat generation so Apple could probably go with a solid aluminum back and drop the fans (or need far less). And using more "off-the-shelf" components would likely be much cheaper.

For 27-inch iMac, Apple will likely reuse standard 5K LCD panel.... So it should be able to maintain the previous $1,799 starting price.

Agreed that we will see the current 5K panel, just now mated to a Mini-LED backlight instead of the current Edge-Lit one.

There was no new hardware at WWDC in 2020 or 2021.

True, but I remain convinced that the 14" and 16" MacBook Pros were intended to launch at WWDC 2021 and were delayed until Fall due to supply chain constraints (which then pushed back everything else to March-June).
 
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Seems unlikely -- Apple's made a clear shift away from announcing hardware at WWDC.
Apple totally does announce hardware at WWDC when it suits them. Usually it is the more developer focused systems like a MBP or Mac Pro.

This year, their launch schedule is so influenced by their desire to complete the AS transition and impacted by supply chain disruptions that they may be forced to announce new models when they can rather than when they wish.
 
The current 27" model starts at $1,799.. That price point with 16GB/512GB the entry-level standard is possible. But the iMac Pro started at $5k.. depending on the depth of the rebrand - is it in name only? or is the 24" close enough to the 27" in screen space that they're making the 27+" premium? - I could see $2500 to start..

While there has been one rumor / claim that Apple wanted to keep the price closer to the $2000 of the current base Intel iMacs, I really believe that Apple will position the base model of this machine against a 16GB/512GB iMac with an i7 and a 5500XT and that configurations is $2499.

Yes, Apple will save money not paying Intel and AMD for CPUs and GPUs, but there is still the higher cost of RAM (at Apple margins) and the new case and Mini-LED which would make $1799/$1999 impossible (from a margin standpoint).
 
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If anyone needs Windows, ride your Intel Macs for as long as you can. And even after the macOS side is no longer upgradable, the Windows side will probably still be upgradable.

Probably not. None of the Intel Macs are capable of running Windows 11 without some hackery due to the TPM requirements. I don't see that changing moving forward.
 
If this was a Pro, could they make it thicker to allow everything to be behind the screen? This would make it as thick as the XDR display with a thin bezel and no chin. And maybe it could then double as a true external monitor?
 
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