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Big OLED fan but not sure it’s suitable for a device used for several hours at a time with potentially static UI elements. I
Yep, I think iPad should be fine... I'm more concerned about the rumored oled in macbooks.
 
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Yep, I think iPad should be fine...

You would hope so but it remains to be seen. Personally I will skip the first generation and let others do the beta testing. My faith in Apple hardware these days is not what it once was.
 
Dimmer? Just cranking the brightness to max indoors isn't going to show you which one is brighter. Try testing them under sunlight and you'll probably see the 13 is brighter. Also, in what way does the panel look worse? It is really hard to work out what you're referring to from these photos.
Yeah, I can confirm that my 13 Pro Max is brighter than my 12 Pro Max in direct sunlight. At least for the ~5 seconds that it takes to overheat and dim the display to unusable brightness
 
Well, if it is really so bad, why would not Samsung want to change to that Apple proposed “two-stack tandem structure” for their own offerings? This way both could benefit.
"Profitability is also said to be a factor in Samsung's unwillingness to provide the technology"
 
"Profitability is also said to be a factor in Samsung's unwillingness to provide the technology"

Understood, but I wonder why Samsung is unwilling to adopt this more advanced OLED manufacturing process both for themselves and all of their other customers. Better panels = happier customers = more sales, or am I missing something? Besides, it not like Apple were hesitating putting their prices up, as iPad Air 4 saw a 100$ price increase at launch despite its “normal” and light-bleeding panel. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
OLED is great looking but even the best ones out there from just two years ago are now showing that they all have burn in even from regular use that avoids the obvious things like displaying static images for a long time. Old iPads don't have the kind of screen burn in that these OLED would and that's a bad look for Apple to have devices the public clearly sees won't hold up. Why pay premium prices on devices that won't last longer than much affordable alternatives? They need the best panels they can get. They know the competitors will stick with the cheaper ones and eventually that will be a selling point as well, because two products of the same age will age quite differently.
 
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I'm using a Galaxy Book Pro (not the 360) 15.6" OLED. I also have the M1 Air and I like the Samsung panel more, although it's not that much of a difference. It's pretty bright but only HD. Brighter than the Air.
 
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OLED is probably like the florescent light bulb. It didn't need to exist but it did and made it easier to sell even more expensive LED's later. Its an interim technology that is just being put out there because they need to make money off the patents but will one day be completely outclassed and surpassed by an even more reliable technology without the drawbacks. But that technology will be even more expensive and the world is not ready for that sticker shock yet.
 
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"I cannot buy an entry or mid-level iPad until I have deeper blacks"

...said no one, ever.

I mean, I sort of understand the fascination with the technology. I can spend 1-2 hours a year marveling at the various YouTubers waxing endlessly about how this or that TV makes an explosion from a Fast & Furious movie more vivid or the dark scenes from a Batman movie more detailed.

But a non-pro iPad?

This reminds me of audio compression bit-rate arguments while 99% of music is listened to with speakers/headphones that can't produce the difference. Or the 6k/8k cameras while the vast majority of streaming feeds aren't even 4k.

Again...these are non-Pro models.

If you want the best, then expect to pay the luxury tax.
 
I’m not upgrading my iPad until it’s OLED. I returned my 2021, miniLED just doesn’t cut it for me.

I don’t need crazy high brightness either, 600/800nit sdr and 1000/1200 nit HDR is more than good enough, 1600 is overkill and I hope apple doesn’t delay the OLED iPad because of it!

Longevity shouldn’t be a concern either. My 2017 LG C7 is still going very strong, with no burn in.
 
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Still no OLED iPad after all these years???.
and only 1 pro model in the whole line up supports 120Hz refresh rate?.
That is why I keep my old iPad Pro with 120hz from 4 years ago. innovation at Apple stopped at iPhone X.
 
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I'm using a Galaxy Book Pro (not the 360) 15.6" OLED. I also have the M1 Air and I like the Samsung panel more, although it's not that much of a difference. It's pretty bright but only HD. Brighter than the Air.
I have a Dell XPS15 with an OLED panel, it's WAY better than my M1 Air. (higher res, more colorful, clearer.) It also cost a lot more. :)
 
Still no OLED iPad after all these years???.
and only 1 pro model in the whole line up supports 120Hz refresh rate?.
That is why I keep my old iPad Pro with 120hz from 4 years ago. innovation at Apple stopped at iPhone X.
Not sure if you read the article, but it is cited that the concern is the lifespan of OLED (especially single stack), with Apple supposedly stating that iPads tend to be kept longer than iPhones.
 
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I assume, this report also assumes that the next Pro (11 inch specifically) will be Mini LED. I don’t know why the Air would get such a significant screen update before the pro.
The Ipad Airs sell significantly more units than Ipad Pros. OLED being better for more mainstream consumer content viewing which is what the Airs are aimed and priced at. Mini LED is better for Pro use with its higher brightness and where static screens would potentially be used for longer periods.
 
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Not that hard to work out really, 13 pro max is dimmer than both 11/12 pro max, panel looks worse as well.

Not seeing it?
I'm picky AF with my screens. I went through like 20 iPad 3s back in the day. But honestly both of those panels look fine to me - one's a little warmer, which is a common variance (and actually what I prefer). They both look evenly lit, and pretty uniform in color. As far as brightness is concerned, it's hard to tell from the photo. Bluer screens will always appear brighter to the human eye than warmer displays - which is why when you go into Best Buy all the TVs use a demo mode that boosts the blues.
 
I'm using a Galaxy Book Pro (not the 360) 15.6" OLED. I also have the M1 Air and I like the Samsung panel more, although it's not that much of a difference. It's pretty bright but only HD. Brighter than the Air.
The Air is rated at 400 nits brightness. You would need to go up to the MBP to get the brighter screen (500 nits brightness and Wide color P3).
 
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