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(Thicker heavier) M2 CPU 2022 11” iPad Pro MiniLED 120hz Vs.
A15 CPU 2022 OLED iPad Air 120hz (Thinner lighter)
 
I dont understand. Even now, OLED is crap for laptops and tablet uses due to Burn-in issue and short life span. Why cant they invest double stack OLED for longer life span? If the money is the problem, then Apple is not the only client.
I've had an OLED laptop for 2 or 3 years and it still looks as good as new. It's only lightly used, but still, it's not crap as it's the best screen on any computer I've ever had.

As for doublestack, that's one possibility out of many to make a long lasting OLED like panel and it's probably more expensive than most.
 
Very real.
like many medical issues, there are several stages.
1. your body can compensate, and your mind is unaware of exposure
2. your body cannot compensate, and you feel the symptoms, but your mind is unaware
3. your body cannot compensate, but you are aware of the reason
4. your body can compensate, but you are already aware.

Most people are in stage 1, so far, with occasional intrusions into stage 2 where they take panadol, make a break and then back to exposure.
Some professionals with decades of screen exposure, are in stage 2 and go to doctors who prescribe meds that do not and cannot solve the root cause. If the issue is unresolved, they may retire. If they can…
I hope this can help you into 3 or 4…
Reducing exposure can do magic, as i witnessed in many sufferers.

But enjoy your stage 1 or 4 if you can ;)

Alternate way is to check for PWM on sites like notebookcheck.net (search PWM there).
Or ask for FlickerFree / EyeCare screens from Apple, which is not in their marketing lingo.

I see. So everyone suffers, they just don’t know it. Very interesting. I wonder when the medical profession will get off their butts and publish a peer reviewed clinical study that shows this is a problem - I’ve been searching extensively and can only find papers that don’t publish raw data and which are in pay-to-publish or other disreputable journals. I bet the medical profession is being bought off by Big LED.
 
I have the newer 2020 model with LiDAR sensor and honestly it’s still so blisteringly fast and capable with daily use, I have no intention of upgrading unless an OLED model is released. My eyes have grown accustomed to OLED’s perfect black levels on my LG tv and iPhone, and it’s frustrating to my eyes now when I read my books in bed on the iPad and the LCD just bleeds light through the black all over the room. It really disturbs my wife who’s pretty light sensitive despite the “low-light filter” i turned on in ‘accessibility settings’. I would gladly pay to have that screen for evening use.
 
I came from Samsung devices, back to all Apple this Spring after leaving Apple in 2014. I’m over OLED devices along with banding, macro blocking, black crush, poor screen uniformity, green instead of grey in low brightness, slow rate pwm. Sat on the fence and waited on the pro 12.9 until all verdicts were in. Well pulled the trigger last week and gave my Air to my wife. Love the mini led and will take blooming artifacts over OLED ones every time and twice on Sunday. Hope they use mini led on watches soon so I can actually read them outdoors. Will be replacing my led tv with a mini led one as soon as I find one I like. So far don’t like any of the 2021 models.
 
they will do it, like Apple ask Samsung for iphone X an oled with 1 mil to 1 contrast ratio...after samsung being in the oled tech for a decade and still didnt come up with that....also Apple was the first to come with the idea of pixels shifting thanks to iOS, to prevent burn-in after samsung had that issue for almost a decade
So, they will do it after Apple. You think Samsung or others will not start use mini-led tech in a lot of devices starting next year ?! mini-led is a pleasure for the prof monitors (not for smartphones) until micro-led can have shrink down pixels

Apple surely has contributed to the topic, but these examples are just silly. OLED screens have an infinite contrast ratio. That is their main appeal. And Samsung devices were using pixel shifting long, long before Apple got involved with OLED. Always On Displays are prime examples of how this was being used for years without Apple even being interested in OLED tech.
 
Apple is reportedly not satisfied with the brightness levels of single stack OLED panels
I have very rarely wished my iPad were brighter. I very often wish it had deeper blacks.
 
I just noticed tonight that my iPhone 11 Pro Max has screen burn-in from the Lock Screen.
I can clearly see a pink camera and flashlight icons on a white screen.
If there a warranty on a screen for burn-in? Got the three year plan.
 


Apple has called off a joint project with Samsung to use a Samsung-developed OLED display for a forthcoming 10.9-inch iPad Air, according to a new report today from The Elec.

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Single stack refers to the current widely used OLED panel structure where red, green and blue form one emission layer.

Apple is reportedly not satisfied with the brightness levels of single stack OLED panels and is also wary of the panel's lifespan, since consumers typically hold onto iPads for longer compared to smartphones, which have a more aggressive upgrade cycle.

Instead, Apple wants to use a two-stack tandem structure for its first OLED iPad that stacks two red, green and blue emission layers instead of just one. This doubles the brightness and extends the panel's life by up to four times.

However, Samsung has only commercialized a single stack structure and is either not able or not willing to supply the two-stack technology, according to the report.

Profitability is also said to be a factor in Samsung's unwillingness to provide the technology. Unless Samsung can be sure that the OLED iPad Air will be sold for a long time, preparing for the back-end module process for the products won't be worth the cost.

Most of the rumors that we've heard about an OLED ‌iPad Air‌ suggest that it's coming in 2022. However, now that Samsung isn't involved in development, The Elec suggests the OLED iPad Air will not see the light of day until 2023. A previous report from Display Supply Chain Consultants (DSCC) claimed Apple will release its first OLED iPad in 2023, although no reason was given for the changed production roadmap.

Back in March, Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said that Apple is expected to start using OLED next year, while DigiTimes has also predicted a 2022 release for an OLED ‌iPad‌, as have sites like ETNews, which rely on supply chain data.

OLED technology is expensive, which is a factor that has thus far limited it to smaller devices like iPhones and Apple Watches. When adopted in the ‌iPad‌, it will bring improved brightness, higher contrast, deeper blacks, and wider viewing angles.

Article Link: 2022 OLED iPad Air in Doubt After Apple Turns Down Samsung's Display Panels
OLED quality is essential for me. Without OLED I retreat.
 
Here’s my OLED burn-in on my iPhone 11 Pro Max. I enhanced the contrast but you can see the camera icon from the lock screen and the word carpool and circle from Waze app.

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yes, but the blue pixels fades away like crazy after a lot of use after 1 year..and the gamut/brightness are less..
Apple wants their display also to be at least 500 nits, probably even 600 nits since the pro ipads will soon both will be 1000nits (not just the 12.9)
tha ipad pro isnt 1000 nits,its 600 actually.

1000 is only when xdr kicks in,which is in rather rare occasions such as going into photos.app

otherwise u cant benefit from such potential brightness,and are stuck to 600nits,which tbh sucks under sunlight or if u need more brightness for any task other than starring at pictures
 
Here’s my OLED burn-in on my iPhone 11 Pro Max. I enhanced the contrast but you can see the camera icon from the lock screen and the word carpool and circle from Waze app.

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wow,when did u buy it ? are u using max brightness very very often/using phone outdoors all the time? how much can u stay on homescreen for this icon to appear ,rly?

its weird to have a burn in of the camera as the icon in the middle is well,black...isnt it?
 
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and yet the professional reviewers disagree with you, you know, the ones who use actual instruments and stuff
Good for them. But the person using it has to deal with it with what appeared to be a substandard screen
 
wow,when did u buy it ? are u using max brightness very very often/using phone outdoors all the time? how much can u stay on homescreen for this icon to appear ,rly?

its weird to have a burn in of the camera as the icon in the middle is well,black...isnt it?
Got it in March of 2020. Have to set brightness to high during daytime. Use Lock Screen a lot for notifications and clock, keep navigation app open all day to help with my job. My iPhone 7 Plus was used the same way for three years without any burn-in because it was not OLED. Maybe my next iPhone will have to be an SE 2.
 
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