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I agree that some Rolex and Omega watches are timeless classics due to design and materials, but -let's be real- the Apple Watch is no such thing. I'm not an expert in fashion, but I observe the world around me and it seems that fashion reinvents itself at cutthroat speed.
Some watches are fashion (Michael Kors, Louis Vuitton) others are tools (Rolex, Omega). I would say the Apple Watch (although obviously not a Swiss time piece) falls far more on the side of tool than fashion… and that’s ok.
 
Expecting a redesign for the 10th anniversary model. The normal standard one should be getting redesign. Watch Ultra will remain as a separate category. Expecting it to be available in 2024
 
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They better not change the band mechanism. I have over 50 oem bands, and there is that one guy here that has hundreds. We will not be happy about this!
 
Changing the band mechanism isn’t only a great idea, it’s going to be a necessity. A magnetic linking mechanism will also allow for data exchange, where the current physical mechanism does not. That means bands can have their own independent sensors. This is an obvious move and totally worth it.
 
They better not change the band mechanism. I have over 50 oem bands, and there is that one guy here that has hundreds. We will not be happy about this!
They need to change the band mechanism. A magnetic mechanism will allow for data exchange with bands that have independent sensors. It’s not only a good idea, I’d be upset if they didn’t go that route
 
It has the same problem as the temperature sensor, maybe even worse. The wrist is just not a good place to measure these things. I don’t know how the watch could even detect blood pressure without being strapped on really tight.

I already see people walking around with their watches on so loosely I can see the heart rate sensor light just shining futilely on the surface of their skin.
It doesn’t matter where it’s measured if they are calculating BP changes based on blood flow changes.
 
I don’t think the aim is “accuracy” as this would require more regulations — they are probably going for establishing a baseline and detecting what direction you go from there.
yes. this.

except for a sudden skyrocketingly high blood pressure, the kind of monitoring that apple will be able to provide is for long term trend information. for example, for a person who has been wearing the Watch for 6 or 7 months the person will be able to see their trend info.
one day the person will get a New Trend notification that pops up, and compares the recent 6 weeks of data with the past 30 weeks.

apple is very very careful about indicating that there is a new trend without several weeks of data to support that conclusion.

however, even this level of info is of value for mostly healthy persons who would still benefit from seeing this kind of info even if only on a trend basis, in order to prompt them to get into their doctor to actually have it looked at by a doctor to see why its increasing and work out a plan to reduce it.

there are two types of blood pressure monitors you can buy for home use. measured at either upper arm, or, at wrist.
unfortunately the wrist type is very difficult to get consistent readings and except for ease of use, usually the wrong choice to buy.
 
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It has the same problem as the temperature sensor, maybe even worse. The wrist is just not a good place to measure these things. I don’t know how the watch could even detect blood pressure without being strapped on really tight.

I already see people walking around with their watches on so loosely I can see the heart rate sensor light just shining futilely on the surface of their skin.
My first thought would be to look at the difference in arterial diameter between the low point in the pulse and the high point. You could also potentially look at the difference in Doppler between the low and the high. The shape of the curve could tell you quite a bit.
 
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need to upgrade the new series. This is the one. Medical alerts are only estimations and shouldn't be considered medical professional advice. Full medical machines are a true estimation. Apple's protocol biometrics body's-biorhythms are only a smaller measurement; of what is measured with more possible errors. That results from the programming and hardware limitations of the Apple watch.
 
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I am stretching my Series 5 out one more year and by then it will be 5 years old. I have a horrible feeling it will be a let down and the design change will only be seen on a stainless model maybe. Apple do have a habit of keeping the more exciting design elements for the higher model products and forget the mainsteam also want to benefit.
 
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I don’t believe they will change the band mechanism, and I certainly don’t think it will be magnetic. Wouldn’t trust it staying on my wrist for golf and tennis
 
Seriously doubt it’s going to be able to detect blood pressure accurately.
It doesn't need to be clinically accurate to give you a warning that you're trending up. It just needs to be accurate enough so that with enough readings it can give you a fairly confident report that you're trending up or not.

As the article said, they may not provide actual numbers until a later release... and until I see strong evidence otherwise that a beam of light can give us clinically accurate blood pressure readings from your wrist, I'll assume that timeline means not in my lifetime.
 
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They better not change the band mechanism. I have over 50 oem bands, and there is that one guy here that has hundreds. We will not be happy about this!

Well, it's gonna happen at some point. Apple Watch will be nine and a half years old by then (compared to the April 2015 launch), so that would be almost a decade of this band mechanism. That seems fair.
 
I know progress can seem slow, but it’s starting to look like the Apple Watch may one day become the medical recorder.

Heart rate, ECG, sleep cycle, blood oxygen, blood pressure, glucose levels, blood alcohol… pretty impressive if it all pans out.
Not with current setup. It will not be up to acceptable medical standards. It will be good for a rough guide.
 
The more health related metrics the better. As a dialysis patient I have my blood pressure monitoring done once every 15 minutes during Haemodialysis and I’m supposed to measure it a few times a day at home. I already know I have hypertension; that’s what killed my kidneys. I want diastolic and systolic not a general ‘your blood pressure is increasing’, although I certainly see how this feature would be useful to most.

Ideally I want blood pressure, pulse, and plasma sodium, potassium and calcium. I know it’s a while away. Sigh.

I’ll settle for a 1 week battery life

Tom
 
I am not convinced. We have heard this news before.
Agreed, although timing would make sense. We got 3 years of Series 4/5/6 same design, now 3 years of Series 7/8/9. I am Ultra user so would be curious if they bring out at least a color option, to match the black titanium iPhone. My battery health is still 100% 15 months later and I still love the Ultra so would be interested in an Ultra 3.
 
Agreed, although timing would make sense. We got 3 years of Series 4/5/6 same design, now 3 years of Series 7/8/9. I am Ultra user so would be curious if they bring out at least a color option, to match the black titanium iPhone. My battery health is still 100% 15 months later and I still love the Ultra so would be interested in an Ultra 3.
We will see a new color offering with the Ultra. I think that will be it on design for the Ultra. As to new health features, I think any we see will be very limited like the wrist temperature offering.
 
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My first thought would be to look at the difference in arterial diameter between the low point in the pulse and the high point. You could also potentially look at the difference in Doppler between the low and the high. The shape of the curve could tell you quite a bit.

Ha well alright then sounds like you’ve got a pretty good idea about it. Maybe this will be easier than temperature sensing. Since you seem educated on the subject, what about that? How’s the wrist for getting an idea of actual body temperature?
 
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