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2025 Formula One Season Thread
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From what I have read, Zandvoort did not want to extend their contract as the attendance figures are not enough to cover the costs of holding it.
Why would you want to ruin his career by putting him in the RB21?
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Gutted for Lando. Not sure he’d have passed Oscar, but at least he wouldn’t have given him a 25 point increase on the 9 he already had.
Needs a DNF for Oscar to make it a battle imho.
Great drive from Hadjar. He did very well. I wonder if he had the pace to overtake Max at times (if he would have been allowed!).
A weekend to forget for Ferrari. Not helped them in their WC fight.
I loved George’s radio reaction when asked to let Kimi pass. He definitely didn’t anticipate that.
Needs a DNF for Oscar to make it a battle imho.
Great drive from Hadjar. He did very well. I wonder if he had the pace to overtake Max at times (if he would have been allowed!).
A weekend to forget for Ferrari. Not helped them in their WC fight.
I loved George’s radio reaction when asked to let Kimi pass. He definitely didn’t anticipate that.
Didn't know that his thread existed but I am pleased that it does! Brilliant race today. Big congrats to Hadjar, but I do pray that he does not get placed into the hideous vehicle that is known as the RB21
I don't think Lando would have passed Oscar. Oscar was extending prior to the AMG failure. There is some talk that Lando may have been running hot being in Oscars dirty air and blew an oil hose from increased pressure. This is an issue with the AMG PU. The track temps were higher than most expected. Should know more soon.
Even a dull knife gets results in the right hand.......
Rain shows who has “done nothing, achieved nothing” and who can keep things together and get the victory.
Well that was an action packed and evenful race. I quite enjoyed it, what a race from Hadjar absolutely brilliant. Such a shame for Lando I so want him to win the championship but that just got a lot harder. Massively impressive overtake on Max as well. Fair enough Max didn't have his elbows out, but he was racing his own race. Great early safe by Max as well. Poor Lewis such a shame. Loved LeClercs overtake on George as well....Yup, definitely ejoyable, and as always a good party regardless the weather with some good djs...
I so want him to win the championship but that just got a lot harder. Massively impressive overtake on Max as well. Fair enough Max didn't have his elbows out, but he was racing his own race. Great early safe by Max as well. Poor Lewis such a shame. Loved LeClercs overtake on George as well....Yup, definitely ejoyable, and as always a good party regardless the weather with some good djs...
Yep. The only reason that car is scary is because Max Verstappen is one of the drivers and can drag it close to the front on (most) weekends
Um, I wonder who caused that problem? I saw an extremely well run, well attended event, that has been very popular, and I am sure that a discount or some sort of relief could have been found.. F1 is floundering in a sea of silly tracks.. What Zaandvort offers not only a tricky track, but tricky overhead conditions, rain/no rain, something the PHD's love, a real puzzler for the weekend...
What will replace it in 2027? Max said "no street.." so we will have to wait and see.. If whoever owns F1 and they make exactly $0.00, then this is 100% ok, as soon as they make $1 profit, this is a problem, F1 should not be making a profit.. Where does much of this profit come from, excessive hosting fees.. Reduce that by 50% for 2027.. Maybe the track itself generates a profit..
I don't recall, no surprise there, the last time we saw a PU failure from McLaren... anyone?
Nope, they are about as reliable as Swiss Trains.. Yeah, that was brutal, but I question the sanity of the moron in charge of trophies.. Surely in 2025, you just 3D print 3x fake trophies, the real ones are delivered after the end of year Dinner to the HQ of each team, "sign here for..." But to have real trophies, dude, they break them.. So print fake ones.. Like they do at the tennis, they don't get the real one.. They get fakes.. Poor ol Hadjar, breaking his trophy...
The AMG PU has struggled with heat management for some time. Stella seems to be leaning in the direction of chassis packaging. My guess is temps were warmer than expected. McLaren was a little too restrictive in their cooling. Lando got warm running behind Oscar leading to an oil related failure. Just speculation…..
WHAT!?!? I didn't get to see all of the podium celebration and as I left they were spraying the champagne. When did he break it?
It broke when they celebrated outside the garage, he was holding it, and it hit the ground, oops, he had 1/2 in his hand, the base, still on the ground.. Really they pay some idiot big bucks to manage the trophies..
I agree Lando was running being PiastryPies, and not a single PHD in the garage could figure out a Dremel was the best tool on the day? They had more than enough time to rebuild the engine, ship it, and still finish 1-2.. But no, they couldn't think of a solution, and a DNF was their only solution??? Strange tactic... Maybe they know better.. They are paid to know..
I agree Lando was running being PiastryPies, and not a single PHD in the garage could figure out a Dremel was the best tool on the day? They had more than enough time to rebuild the engine, ship it, and still finish 1-2.. But no, they couldn't think of a solution, and a DNF was their only solution??? Strange tactic... Maybe they know better.. They are paid to know..
The stewards decided to not penalize LeClerc for his tussling getting past George Russel, however they have handed a five-place grid penalty to Lewis Hamilton (to be served at Monza) for ignoring double waved yellow flags during the pre-race reconnaissance laps in the Netherlands.
www.formula1.com
Hamilton gets five-place grid penalty for Italian Grand Prix
Lewis Hamilton has been given a five-place grid penalty for Ferrari’s home race at Monza after he was found guilty of a yellow flag breach prior to the Dutch Grand Prix.
Well, sour avo's to the Stewards on that duff decision.. It happened before the race, if anything, Lewis should have copped a 5 second pit lane punishment, but a 5 grid penalty, beyond harsh, that is like getting 6 years in prison for doing 11 mph over the limit, 2 yrs ago... Rough...
The Stewards refused to do any work during the race and felt justified and proud to send this to the next event.. Time and place of offence should be handled at time and place of offence, at worst a 10 second time penalty added to race time...
The FIA has lost control of the event, of motorsport, it is now in pure crisis mode, this is just one more example of insanity, I agree with Carlos Sainz, a bit strange... A lot of decisions seem random..
The Stewards refused to do any work during the race and felt justified and proud to send this to the next event.. Time and place of offence should be handled at time and place of offence, at worst a 10 second time penalty added to race time...
The FIA has lost control of the event, of motorsport, it is now in pure crisis mode, this is just one more example of insanity, I agree with Carlos Sainz, a bit strange... A lot of decisions seem random..
I finally caught up with the race highlights and what a chaotic race. I don't usually like Zandvoort as I feel its too narrow for modern F1 cars, but the conditions really spiced this race up. Super chuffed for Hadjar with his first podium, he was on fire this weekend and deserved it. Nice lad too. A weekend to forget for Ferrari. Poor Lewis, it looks like a tiny mistake from him and there was no slowing that car down in time. He appears to be overdriving to compensate and here is to a new start in 2026. He's getting so much abuse online at the moment and it must be tough. Charles was a passenger in his accident and looked a lonely figure on the hill next to the track. Kimi has to dig deep if he wants to keep that seat for 2026 and I think many are realising he is perhaps the most at risk as George is havng a decent season.
Poor Lando though. He wasn't looking like he'd get past Oscar, but was strong and minimising the points damage. A lot of journalists comparing this now to Malaysia 2016 where one DNF can make the championship very difficult. Lewis dug so deep that year and pretty much dominated the second half of the season, winning the last 4 races and pushing Nico into desperate mistakes, yet it wasn't enough. I can't see Lando dominating Oscar the same way, and unlike Rosberg, he is cool under pressure and consistent. Lando needs to pray for a DNF to get him back in it I think. A good season though so far.
Poor Lando though. He wasn't looking like he'd get past Oscar, but was strong and minimising the points damage. A lot of journalists comparing this now to Malaysia 2016 where one DNF can make the championship very difficult. Lewis dug so deep that year and pretty much dominated the second half of the season, winning the last 4 races and pushing Nico into desperate mistakes, yet it wasn't enough. I can't see Lando dominating Oscar the same way, and unlike Rosberg, he is cool under pressure and consistent. Lando needs to pray for a DNF to get him back in it I think. A good season though so far.
A lot of people saying how harsh that is on Lewis, he's perhaps reaching the point this season where the end can't come soon enough.The stewards decided to not penalize LeClerc for his tussling getting past George Russel, however they have handed a five-place grid penalty to Lewis Hamilton (to be served at Monza) for ignoring double waved yellow flags during the pre-race reconnaissance laps in the Netherlands.
Hamilton gets five-place grid penalty for Italian Grand Prix
Lewis Hamilton has been given a five-place grid penalty for Ferrari’s home race at Monza after he was found guilty of a yellow flag breach prior to the Dutch Grand Prix.
The word of the the day is time.. Lewis sadly waited too long and burnt his toast.. Everyone and the dog knew end of 2024 was the time to head to WEC.. Hopefully Lewis leaves soon, yes it is so sad to see a legend driving like a noob..
There is a time and a place to live out dreams, but F1 is not that place, it is not a finishing school, you come to F1 complete as a driver, not to learn, you are at the end of a career, not the start, that career starts in karting 6 yrs old, up through various formula and into single seats, F4-F3-F2-F1.. F1 is the terminal formula.. After that is fun, WEC, DTM, Lemons 24.. Test driving..
To have multi-year contracts for older drivers, sort does not make sense, contracts of max 3 yrs maybe can be justified, but longer? F1 is different, in a way, you are not in a "formula" maybe you are, in a formula of only 2 cars.. As each team has unique cars, a pair, and right now we have 10 pairs of cars, we have a 10 pair of cars Formula.. Who is WDC? Well we have 10 of them.. who ever has more points is their team's WDC?
F1 has a problem.. That is what is a formula? How to define a formula? Who is the best in that formula???
There is a time and a place to live out dreams, but F1 is not that place, it is not a finishing school, you come to F1 complete as a driver, not to learn, you are at the end of a career, not the start, that career starts in karting 6 yrs old, up through various formula and into single seats, F4-F3-F2-F1.. F1 is the terminal formula.. After that is fun, WEC, DTM, Lemons 24.. Test driving..
To have multi-year contracts for older drivers, sort does not make sense, contracts of max 3 yrs maybe can be justified, but longer? F1 is different, in a way, you are not in a "formula" maybe you are, in a formula of only 2 cars.. As each team has unique cars, a pair, and right now we have 10 pairs of cars, we have a 10 pair of cars Formula.. Who is WDC? Well we have 10 of them.. who ever has more points is their team's WDC?
F1 has a problem.. That is what is a formula? How to define a formula? Who is the best in that formula???
Well McLaren could do some tricks with strategy or maybe some tyre differences to help Lando win the championship. This would be a way to do it without "team orders".
Can't have him being beaten by someone who has done nothing, achieved nothing.