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I agree with you on this 100%. Apple users are pretty accustomed to Apple releasing version one products that, while maybe missing a few obvious features, feel fully baked and do most everything that they do almost perfectly. This is why there has been so much controversy over the Apple Intelligence features.
Yep, that's why Apple hasn't released an underscreen camera; they know there would be a mountain of #somethinggate handwringing over inferior image quality and how it isn't perfectly hidden while off.
 
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I hope the 4:3 inner screen rumor is true. It'd make it more usable for tablet use. I really like idea of combining my iPhone and iPad Mini.

I guess the folks wanting an iPad Mini Pro is going to be a large portion of the potential user base. Not sure if that's large enough for Apple though.

I didn't know about UBS' guess of a lower price than earlier rumors. Hopefully they're right.
 
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I know there'll be people with disposable income that'll have to have the shiny new Apple foldable, but for the rest us that consider value for money & not status symbols,
You shouldn’t imply that if it’s priced high that anyone who buys it is doing so for status.
 
If this helps the iPhone 17/18/19 Pro Max series in reducing prices, then I welcome this foldable iPhone. We badly need price reduction of normal iPhone Pro Max series. Thanks to Apple for doing this.

Meanwhile, shall watch the iPhone foldable for the first 2 iterations.
 
This may be an unpopular opinion, but I'd rather have an iPhone Flip than a Fold 😅
absolutely agree.... I want to use folding technology to make my walk around device smaller, not bigger! But I see the appeal of this for someone who doesn't want to use an iPad.
 
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A 5.5-inch outer display is too small for regular use.
I put my browser into a pop-up window that was the rough dimensions that are rumoured to play with for a while and, no, it's not too small. It's very usable for casual day to day use. For the few jobs it is too small for, well there's a whole other huge display for them.
 
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We can go on and on about who foldables are for and who they are not for, but I will tell you this...if you use an iPhone and an iPad Mini fairly often, you should definitely give a book-style foldable a try (be it Android or Apple if/when they release theirs) for a week or two, whatever timeframe is within the return policy guidelines. If you don't like it, you can always return it for a full refund. I believe the vast majority of those who try them will keep them. Every person I know who has owned a foldable will not go back to a standard slab phone. It's a small sample size of course, but it is still 100% in favor of keeping their foldable. When the original Samsung Fold came out, I said hell no. When the Z Fold 2 came out, I said it's better, but still no. When the Z Fold 3 came out, I was tired of waiting around for Apple to make a foldable and I jumped over to the Z Fold 3. I've never looked back and as I've said before, you couldn't pay me to go back to a regular slab phone. Foldables have come a long, long way since the Z Fold 3.
 
Is it just me, or does the 5.5-inch front display make this a tough sell? Samsung’s latest Fold 7 has a front screen that’s nearly the size of a standard Pro Max, around 6.5 inches, which makes it feel like a fully usable phone even when it’s closed. For context, the regular iPhone is 6.1 inches, so you’d think that would be the baseline for usability.

I really wanted to be excited about the iPhone Foldable, but with such a small front display, it feels like you'd be forced to unfold it every time you want to do anything. That kind of defeats the convenience, right?
it only measures 5.5 inches from corner to corner, but the actual usable space will be about the same as today’s current Pro Max.
just be a lot wider and shorter.
that is how they are getting a full 4X3 display on the inside.
The outside display is actually likely to be a lot more similar to the 3X2 aspect ratio of the original 3.5 inch iPhones.
 
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We can go on and on about who foldables are for and who they are not for, but I will tell you this...if you use an iPhone and an iPad Mini fairly often, you should definitely give a book-style foldable a try (be it Android or Apple if/when they release theirs) for a week or two, whatever timeframe is within the return policy guidelines. If you don't like it, you can always return it for a full refund. I believe the vast majority of those who try them will keep them. Every person I know who has owned a foldable will not go back to a standard slab phone. It's a small sample size of course, but it is still 100% in favor of keeping their foldable. When the original Samsung Fold came out, I said hell no. When the Z Fold 2 came out, I said it's better, but still no. When the Z Fold 3 came out, I was tired of waiting around for Apple to make a foldable and I jumped over to the Z Fold 3. I've never looked back and as I've said before, you couldn't pay me to go back to a regular slab phone.
My niece is having multiple Samsung Fold 5, 6 etc….he has all of them with broken screens and hefty charges to fix it. He has taken the Apple Care like plan for all the foldable ones. These foldable ones are definitely going to break sooner due to lots of folding actions. Hence I am staying away from foldable ones.
 
My niece is having multiple Samsung Fold 5, 6 etc….he has all of them with broken screens and hefty charges to fix it. He has taken the Apple Care like plan for all the foldable ones. These foldable ones are definitely going to break sooner due to lots of folding actions. Hence I am staying away from foldable ones.
Well, that is what insurance is for. I've owned ten foldables to date. A few of them I've owned for a year, and some less than that. I've only had one screen fail and that was on the Z Fold 3, which failed after 8 months. Since the Z Fold 3, I've owned the Z Fold & Flip 4, the Z Fold 5 & 6, the Pixel Fold & Pixel 9 Pro Fold, the OnePlus Open, the Honor Magic V3 Global, the Oppo Find N5 and I have the Z Fold 7 on preorder. If you take care of your foldable/s, they can last for at least 2-3 years based on what I've seen in the forums and the people I know that have owned them. Some people are still using the Z Fold 2 even. Are they as durable as a slab phone, no of course not. Not yet anyway. Who knows what the future will bring. I'm not trying to talk you into buying a foldable, I'm just sharing my experience.
 
The interesting question is whether it will run iOS when folded, but iPad OS when unfolded.
 
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I could be wrong, but I doubt it will be a dual OS scenario. I think it will run iOS across the board.

It would probably be easier for them to use iPadOS and just put restrictions on the outer display than to add all the things like multitasking needed for the larger screen to make sense to iOS. In the end the base is the same but they spent years adding all the small details to iPadOS.
 
It would probably be easier for them to use iPadOS and just put restrictions on the outer display than to add all the things like multitasking needed for the larger screen to make sense to iOS. In the end the base is the same but they spent years adding all the small details to iPadOS.
You could be right. I see it as being a single OS solution, regardless.
 
Every year before the new iPhone is launched, leaks about the next year version come out. It’s strange.
 
Apple knows its users cant handle the teething pains which come with true innovation. If Apple had released a fold with all of the issues the Z-Fold-1 had, the negative reactions would have been magnitudes more extreme than what Samsung got.
Fair point. But that means it's going to cost. A lot.
 
I don’t think I’m going to be buying one of these. It’s not like any of us hold onto the same phone for eight years. At least enthusiasts don’t… I could either buy one of these every two years or I could buy a regular iPhone Pro and an Apple Watch every two years and still potentially have some money left over.
 
I've owned ten foldables to date, one of them being the Z Flip 4, which I was going to use as my backup to the Z Fold 4. I couldn't stand it to be honest. I returned it within a week. I didn't like having to unfold it to basically do anything quickly and accurately. To each their own though. A few friends of mine have Flips, and they love them.
I used to love unfolding my old Motorola StarTac! And that did nothing apart from phone calls and texts!
 
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We can go on and on about who foldables are for and who they are not for, but I will tell you this...if you use an iPhone and an iPad Mini fairly often, you should definitely give a book-style foldable a try (be it Android or Apple if/when they release theirs) for a week or two, whatever timeframe is within the return policy guidelines. If you don't like it, you can always return it for a full refund. I believe the vast majority of those who try them will keep them. Every person I know who has owned a foldable will not go back to a standard slab phone. It's a small sample size of course, but it is still 100% in favor of keeping their foldable. When the original Samsung Fold came out, I said hell no. When the Z Fold 2 came out, I said it's better, but still no. When the Z Fold 3 came out, I was tired of waiting around for Apple to make a foldable and I jumped over to the Z Fold 3. I've never looked back and as I've said before, you couldn't pay me to go back to a regular slab phone. Foldables have come a long, long way since the Z Fold 3.
This is what has me interested in seeing how the foldable will be when it comes out. I'm still using an iPhone XR and will need to replace it in another year or so. My every day "computing" device is an iPad mini 6. If I add the cost of updating both items, it comes in a little under $2k. If there was pencil support as well, I would be very tempted to go in on the first gen release.
 
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