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20inch iMac and Dual 1.8Ghz G5?

Originally posted by arn
Dual 2.0: $2999 (unchanged)
Dual 1.8: $2499
Single 1.8: $2099
Single 1.6: $1799
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Those prices are exactly what they should have been in the first place. It was obvious that the dual 2.0 was by far the best value; this lineup is much better balanced. Although I'm not sure the single 1.8 is needed at all, and it definitely isn't if they would uncripple the 1.6.

I thought it would to be easy holding out for the next major revision, but a dual 1.8 will be hard to resist.
 
If the imac does go g5 with this release it could very well mean that the powerbooks will get a major update soon. This has been very true in the past. I presume it wont mean g5 powerbooks, but more like the dual g4 books the have apeared recently.

I hope I dont have to wait for more then a day. :)
 
Re: Re: Which reminds me - - Dual 1.8Ghz G5?

Originally posted by manitoubalck
Yes:rolleyes: and what are you intending to plug the 2nd proc into? maybe the PCI-X slot? New motherboard is the only solution for more procs.
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The proc slot, 1.8 uses same mobo as 2.0, but without connector for 2nd. proc. Perhaps Apple could offer a connector with the upgrade, if possible.
 
Well, it seems safe to say that the 1.6 G5 will drop in price, the 1.8Ghz tower will fall to $1999 and the dual 1.8Ghz tower will slot in at around $2399.

Now the only major question left is whether or not the 15" iMac will be discontinued and if the 20" iMac will replace the 17" as the top-end model.

We have several situations here:

1. Apple decides to keep the 15" and 17" iMacs where they are now and releases the 20" iMac at an extremely high price point.

2. The 15" iMac is axed, the 17" becomes the new 'low-end' iMac and the 20" iMac sells at the price of the current 17" model.

or...

3. The 15" drops drastically in price leaving the 17" to also drop a few hundred in order to fit the 20" iMac into the line-up.
 
There needs to be a broader more balanced set of configurations.
Why is there not a single 2.0?

Apple should go with...

1 x 1.6 ghz $1699
1 x 1.8 ghz $1899
1 x 2.0 ghz $2199
2 x 1.6 ghz $2299
2 x 1.8 ghz $2499
2 x 2.0 ghz $2899

Scale the range, and let people choose, Single for people who use few apps at once, or play games/etc that don't really take full advantage of the second CPU, Dual for the more demanding users. It just a simple speed variation of the CPU, this should have no negative impact and increase sales, I'd be more inclinded to make the leap to a low/mid dual cpu model, $3000 is just a bit too much...

Then a refresh of speeds for a nice keynote in S.F.

1 x 2.0 ghz $1799
1 x 2.2 ghz $1999
1 x 2.5 ghz $2299
2 x 2.0 ghz $2399
2 x 2.2 ghz $2599
2 x 2.5 ghz $2999

But thats just what I would like to see...
 
Originally posted by stoid
I seriously doubt that Apple will go to the cheese grater aluminum style on the iMac line. It is the cheese-grater/sterile-white that separates the consumer from pro line, and I don't think that Apple is going to ditch that anytime soon. Unless the new iMac is intended to be a professional grade machine, I think that it will stick with pearly white.
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I was thinking exactly the same thing. That thing looks like it should be in the kitchen. Enclose it and buy a fan or 2.
 
How will this be announced, is there some convention tomorrow, or will it pop out from no-where with a little press release and a new apple.com front page like the G4 iBook?

It seems that if the change is big enough to warrant a whole new enclosure, then Apple isn't going to let it out without some hoot and holler to accompany it.
 
Re: Re: Re: Which reminds me - - Dual 1.8Ghz G5?

Originally posted by Mehmet
dude..

the connectors and everything is there, the mobo can and probably will support it.
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On the off chance that it can be connected (unlikley) you would need to buy 2 new procs since the arcitecture for single and dual processors is different.

IT WONT HAPPEN.
 
Originally posted by the_mole1314
I think we'll see the 'Pop Out Of Nowhere' trend. Remeber the ibook G4 and 20g and 40g iPod?
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I can't help but think that this is going to be the case. Apple keep it all under lock and key so that they can shift the remainder of their stock and not have people hanging around for the computer they know is going to be released. It's a way to keep the cash flow up and the public guessing.
 
New monitors

Frankly, I think Apple have better do something about a new G5 themed monitor before it reshuffles the CPUs. The old G4 style monitors just don't cut it, style-wise.
 
Re: Re: G5 iMac

Originally posted by BenRoethig
Of course, people want an expandable tower, but don't want to pay $2k for it. Apple should add a sub $1k tower to its lineup on a permanent basis.
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I agree. I think there are many consumers that want to be able to expand their computer down the road. Plus you can also choose your own display or use one you already have. I think even $1,300 for a decent G4 tower is reasonable.
 
What will tomorrow bring...

Well, as I stated at the beginning of this thread, I was about to order a new 17" iMac this week. I'm kind of excited now to wait and see what tomorrow brings, however I know that it may in fact be nothing. Some times these rumors slip out, get blown out of proportion, and aren't true at all. Of course, that's why they're rumors! ;)

I think there's something to be said though for these types of rumors that just pop out of nowhere. In the past, they seem to have been quite accurate, from my limited experience. I realize there have been related rumors for quite some time now, as far as new iMacs go, etc., but I think the bulk of the rumors were implying a MWSF unveiling, and not a release one day away!

I'm trying to be realistically optimistic, so we'll see what happens tomorrow when I load up good old www.apple.com :)
 
Re: New monitors

Originally posted by =pa=
Frankly, I think Apple have better do something about a new G5 themed monitor before it reshuffles the CPUs. The old G4 style monitors just don't cut it, style-wise.
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Hmm, could this possibly be the truth, and the rumors out there just twisted the facts? Perhaps someone heard about new 20" LCDs, and then something else related to iMacs, and the information got screwed up. Perhaps what we will be seeing are new LCDs (including the 20" of course) instead - after all, they are due for an upgrade if anything is!

Plus, the iMacs just received a minor boost 2 months ago. If all that is being added is a 20" LCD, this would constitute another minor boost, in a manner of speaking (barring a complete iMac redesign) and doesn't seem to be too likely. If the iMacs are getting updated again so soon, I'm thinking it'll be something bigger...
 
Then again...

... then again, is a G5 iMac plausible? Would they update the consumer line with a G5, a new chip that's only been out for 6 months, so quickly? And would they do this before the xServes, which are REALLY due for an update and technically deserve it more than the iMacs?

Then again, we're dealing with a different game all together now, with IBM - we're still used to the "Motorola way" of doing things, and their development and release cycles, etc. - perhaps now with IBM making the chips, we will see more frequent advances than we're used to, and a G5 iMac makes total sense, because more and more speed boosts are going to be coming quicker than ever. :)
 
Originally posted by job
The 15" drops drastically in price leaving the 17" to also drop a few hundred in order to fit the 20" iMac into the line-up.
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I think this will happen. They said something will be sub $1000, a 15" iMac bellow $1000 sounds feasable.
-jail
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Which reminds me - - Dual 1.8Ghz G5?

Originally posted by manitoubalck
On the off chance that it can be connected (unlikley) you would need to buy 2 new procs since the arcitecture for single and dual processors is different.

IT WONT HAPPEN.
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What do you base this on?
 
i just got used to how big the 17" one is.

Also I don't think a 20" screen would over balance the base at all. The base is so heavy already it could take the weight of 3x 17" screens at full stretch before it even thought about falling over (I reckon).

20" imac huh? Talk about a pro-consumer. Someone with plenty of cash!
 
wait, aren't the imac displays powerbook displays?

(they are widescreen no?)


They look suprisingly similar..

if so, then a 20" laptop display doesnt seem very feasable.. even though it's not going to be used in powerbooks (jesus, that would be a HUGE laptop.)
 
just went and checked out the shipping times on various hardware on the apple store. almost everything i checked was shipping same day. The only ones that weren't were the ibook g4 (1-3 days) , powermac g4(1-3 days), and the imac (3-5 days). Hmm.... maybe?
 
Re: Re: New monitors

Originally posted by ~Shard~
Hmm, could this possibly be the truth, and the rumors out there just twisted the facts? Perhaps someone heard about new 20" LCDs, and then something else related to iMacs, and the information got screwed up. Perhaps what we will be seeing are new LCDs (including the 20" of course) instead - after all, they are due for an upgrade if anything is!

Plus, the iMacs just received a minor boost 2 months ago. If all that is being added is a 20" LCD, this would constitute another minor boost, in a manner of speaking (barring a complete iMac redesign) and doesn't seem to be too likely. If the iMacs are getting updated again so soon, I'm thinking it'll be something bigger...
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Good point.
I think ( and hope ) the displays should be next, at least when it comes to design. It's the only "left over" design from the G4 era along with the "new" G4 model that came along with the G5's.
Is there really a market for a 20' iMac ?
I think it might be overkill.
 
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