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If true, the 20" iMac would have to have a 1.6 G5. Then the powermac line would look like this (once the 1.6 is dropped to the iMacs)

Dual 2: 2999
Dual 1.8: 2499
Single 1.8: 1999

This would also mean powerbooks and espically xserve/xraid would be updated at MWSF in january. Also, the powermacs are due for a speed bump at the same time, and the displays really need an update too. Who knows how much of this is just nonsense though.

--Waluigi
 
I have a 17inch imac, I love the screen on it. I just think that a 20" screen is too big for our cute little dome friend. I at first thought the twenty inch may be a little to big, but it is just perfect. Also if apple made the arm stiffer to support the new display, I wouldn't want it. The beauty of the imac's display is that it can be pushed around with 0 effort and yet it can stay in place.

Plus I thought steve said that we would be seeing a major revamp or the iMac in early 2004. And if tomarrow marks a major revamp, I say it's to soon to get ride of a great dising.
 
thinksecret updated with pricing on the PowerMacs

Dual 2.0: $2999 (unchanged)
Dual 1.8: $2499
Single 1.8: $2099
Single 1.6: $1799

arn
 
Originally posted by Flowbee
That's what people were saying when the 17" iMac was rumored. If this 20" iMac turns out to be true, I'm guessing Apple has figured out a way to make it work.

The first time changing the LCD in a 15" iMac I was surprised to find Apple supplied steel counterweights to add inside the LCD housing! The replacement panel apparently didn't weigh enough to keep the arm from creeping up. :)
 
Originally posted by sethypoo
Maybe they (Apple) don't want the G4 to die yet.....they might put dual G4's into the iMac come MWSF. Is it possible to put in three G4's onto one logic board?

i'm usually not one to do a "me too" post, but i can't resist. a doolie imac would be sweet, and it's the first thing i thought of back when the new form factor rumor surfaced. it would make the imac more middle of the road when compared to a g5 and an emac. want efficiency? try the emac. want "fastest computer on a desk" type stuff? g5. oh, you want the best of both worlds? have you seen the new imac??? plus, isn't os x "optimized for dual processors"? why not play on this optimization?

don't really care too much about the 20 inch screen, though. 17's plenty. if there is a 20 incher AND duals, i hope they don't force you to get both by offering just one model with 2 procs. let me choose my monitor size, just as i would if i were buying a tower
 
My 2p would be that if anything happens tomorrow, Apple will just add a 20" iMac with the same features as the 17" (or possibly 1.42GHz G4), keeping the other models and prices the same. We are too close to the previous update for anything else to happen. Think of this as the new 12"/17" PBs when the 15" was updated 2 months before.

However, if the G5 news is linked to this, that could suggest a G5 iMac, maybe even the cube thing everyone was talking about? They could be restructuring the G5s so that a G5 iMac would not eat into PowerMac sales.

But then they might just be giving the G5s a price cut to make them more competetive with the PC world, and responding to complaints of no middle duals.
 
G5 iMac

I think they would keep the G4 in the iMac. That said, there's nothing to say that a G5 iMac would run at 1.6GHz. Apple could put in a 1.0, 1.2, or 1.4GHz G5 and they would fly off the shelf if it were priced around $1799. The lower clock would compensate for heat issues in the tight quarters of the iMac case.

Also, could the $999 item be a price reduction in the powermac G4? I understand that Apple is selling quite a few of the old powermacs.
 
Originally posted by arn
thinksecret updated with pricing on the PowerMacs

Dual 2.0: $2999 (unchanged)
Dual 1.8: $2499
Single 1.8: $2099
Single 1.6: $1799

arn
Hmmm... Trying to move a bunch of lower clocked CPUs? The dual 1.8 is only US$ 100 more than the current single, and the price/performance compared to the dual 2.0 is very good. I wonder if the dual 1.8 will offer the same GPU options as the current dual 2.0?
 
Originally posted by ralphh
The first time changing the LCD in a 15" iMac I was surprised to find Apple supplied steel counterweights to add inside the LCD housing! The replacement panel apparently didn't weigh enough to keep the arm from creeping up. :)

They may also have put in the weights to balance the screen to keep it from sagging to one side on the original model. Did Apple ever correct this in the updates? If you notice it, it gets to be a little annoying having the screen sag slightly.
 
G5 Cube

Yeah, don't we all wish. No room for expansion (Or 1 PCI), but 1.6Ghz G5 GeForce 5200FX, 80Gb Serial ATA 256Mb RAM (1 expansion slot). $999. And a couple fans?

Would anyone here buy it?

:cool:


--OR--
Some new iMac thing.
 
Re: G5 iMac

Originally posted by wymer100
I think they would keep the G4 in the iMac. That said, there's nothing to say that a G5 iMac would run at 1.6GHz. Apple could put in a 1.0, 1.2, or 1.4GHz G5 and they would fly off the shelf if it were priced around $1799. The lower clock would compensate for heat issues in the tight quarters of the iMac case.

Also, could the $999 item be a price reduction in the powermac G4? I understand that Apple is selling quite a few of the old powermacs.

Of course, people want an expandable tower, but don't want to pay $2k for it. Apple should add a sub $1k tower to its lineup on a permanent basis.
 
Originally posted by daveL
Hmmm... Trying to move a bunch of lower clocked CPUs? The dual 1.8 is only US$ 100 more than the current single, and the price/performance compared to the dual 2.0 is very good. I wonder if the dual 1.8 will offer the same GPU options as the current dual 2.0?

I wouldn't expect to see anything change except pricing and the dual 1.8. A full update should be due at MacWorld.
 
Re: Re: Which reminds me - - Dual 1.8Ghz G5?

Originally posted by manitoubalck
Yes:rolleyes: and what are you intending to plug the 2nd proc into? maybe the PCI-X slot? New motherboard is the only solution for more procs.

dude..

the connectors and everything is there, the mobo can and probably will support it.
 
This is a good thing. Who dosen't like more options with cheaper prices? Make the powermac line more affordable, add a new high end imac. Bump the rest of the imac line down in price and make the emac dirt cheap.
 
or this or something close.
 

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I doubt they'd announce iTMS Canada as an Apple Store event, seeing as how there are no Apple Stores in Canada... ;)

And is there a possibility that this 20" iMac is the rumoured 20th anniversary Macintosh? 20"....20th anniversary....coincidence? I think not! :p
 
While I think that inclusion of dual 1.8 G5 is smart and maybe overdue move on Apples part,kinda bugs me really that they gonna release 20" iMac with G4. Don't really think that people will buy to that. People who buy PowerMacs are more likely target customers for anything >17". G4's are real drag these days. If I had to buy Mac that is not easy to upgrade(iMac) ,would certainly be expecting something that is gonna last for some time.With G4's that's certainly not the case. So I may think(if rumor is true) that this is just another ripoff on apples part, but then again I can understand if they are literally swiming in a sea of unsold G4 CPU's from the past that they now somehow trying to get rid of.
 
I seriously doubt that Apple will go to the cheese grater aluminum style on the iMac line. It is the cheese-grater/sterile-white that separates the consumer from pro line, and I don't think that Apple is going to ditch that anytime soon. Unless the new iMac is intended to be a professional grade machine, I think that it will stick with pearly white.
 
Originally posted by Gyroscope
So I may think(if rumor is true) that this is just another ripoff on apples part, but then again I can understand if they are literally swiming in a sea of unsold G4 CPU's from the past that they now somehow trying to get rid of.

If it were a dual processor G4 though, that would be another story entirely...it probably won't be, but here's to hoping.

It will also be just as interesting to see if there is indeed a new 20" iMac tomorrow, if there is also a corresponding price drop on the current 17" model. Maybe $1,999 for the new 20" and drop the current 17" to $1,599 or something like that?
 
Dual 1.8 G5?

Man, that would piss me off, seeing as my 1.8 arrived a week ago today! Wonder if the'd allow me to trade up or give me some $$$ back.
 
20" LCD... I still don't think it's possible. Actually, maybe possible, but the price would be a pretty big jump if they use something that has the quality close to Apple's 20" Display.

I have doubts we'll see anything tomorrow. It'll probably keep getting pushed back a couple of times, then a release of whatever they have up their sleeves.

If there is an iMac re-design, it's not going to be now. MWSF '04 is going to be boring if there's nothing amazingly cool to see. A G5 in an iMac is wishful thinking. I know everybody wants to see Apple ditch Moto, but we've still got PBs and iBooks clinging on to G4's. G5's in all Macs would make them amazingly overpriced. The white dome is still a work of art to all. Perhaps iMacs will be replaced with Cubes soon as long as display prices get cheaper and we get some room to upgrade. eMacs could take the iMac line and I think we'll be good to go. I'm hoping something like this happens in the next couple of months.

But I'll be watching MacRumors from school eagerly tomorrow, just in case I'm wrong. :)

I wish my parents would buy me a new Mac faster than every 5 years. :(
 
Interesting detail in the updated ThinkSecret report:

Sources said that availability of the 20-inch iMac will be limited early on.

Like that's never happened before. :rolleyes: Reel 'em in during the Christmas buying season and then make them wait until February to get it delivered.
 
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