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20inch iMac and Dual 1.8Ghz G5?
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Re: Re: Re: New monitors
I'd agree, although a 20 FOOT screen would be awesome! It would need a huge base to keep up, for sure.
I'd agree, although a 20 FOOT screen would be awesome! It would need a huge base to keep up, for sure.
Re: Re: Re: New monitors
Good question Dahl - is there indeed a market for a 20" iMac? Most users who require a 20" screen are Pro users, who typcially use (surprise!) Pro machines! Now I suppose Apple could be trying to please both markets here, by saying "Hey, here's your big screen (Pro) but on a lower-end box (consumer), but for much less than a PM G5!" Hmm, but with a 20" screen what indeed would be your price point?...
If we see a 20" iMac, I'm thinking it must be a major upgrade to justify this move - otherwise, it is overkill. Plus, the iMac is supposed to be relatively cheap - how much would this new iMac cost with major upgrades (G5?) AND a 20" LCD?
Although they did it with the PowerBooks, now didn't they? New 15", then 2 months (or so) later, bam, 12" and 17" to augment the product line...
Kay, I've just talked myself in circles - I'll stop now. For a bit.
Good question Dahl - is there indeed a market for a 20" iMac? Most users who require a 20" screen are Pro users, who typcially use (surprise!) Pro machines! Now I suppose Apple could be trying to please both markets here, by saying "Hey, here's your big screen (Pro) but on a lower-end box (consumer), but for much less than a PM G5!" Hmm, but with a 20" screen what indeed would be your price point?...
If we see a 20" iMac, I'm thinking it must be a major upgrade to justify this move - otherwise, it is overkill. Plus, the iMac is supposed to be relatively cheap - how much would this new iMac cost with major upgrades (G5?) AND a 20" LCD?
Although they did it with the PowerBooks, now didn't they? New 15", then 2 months (or so) later, bam, 12" and 17" to augment the product line...
Kay, I've just talked myself in circles - I'll stop now. For a bit.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Which reminds me - - Dual 1.8Ghz G5?
Time will tell, but you might want too read a few white papers about Processor architecture.
Time will tell, but you might want too read a few white papers about Processor architecture.
iMac case revision+20 inch screen?
Would it be possible to put the guts of the machine flat against the back of an LCD (a la notebook/tablet) and stick a slot loading drive on the side? I imagine it would be easier to keep the depth to an acceptable size at 20 inches. That would be a very modern redesign of the orignal iMac concept.
Just an unlikely thought.
Would it be possible to put the guts of the machine flat against the back of an LCD (a la notebook/tablet) and stick a slot loading drive on the side? I imagine it would be easier to keep the depth to an acceptable size at 20 inches. That would be a very modern redesign of the orignal iMac concept.
Just an unlikely thought.
I don't know if this would apply to a flat panel contained system, but I know that my dad told me that you should close his TiBook with a DVD running because the heat could leave a burn mark on the LCD screen. Would a DVD player from behind have the same effect??
I like that concept, actually - it's consistent with the all-in-one concept of the iMac too. In any case, don't dismiss it as an unlikely thought - I'm pretty sure those are the types of thoughts Apple thrives on.
Hmm, good point, I never thought of those types of heat issues. Always something, it seems...
Off topic, but I suppose that would be another heat consideration for the G5 PowerBooks as well, if that's the case with the TiBooks.
If Apple has a new iMac ready to go it would make a whole lot more sense to introduce it now rather than two weeks after Christmas at MacWorld.
However, it doesn't make sense for Apple to put a 20" display on the iMac without upgrading it to a G5 at the same time. I'd be surprised if they're ready with that. A 20" display is pretty high-end and the G4 now seems pretty low-end and out of date for a pricey desktop machine.
I think the rumor is false. No G5 yet; no 20" screen on an iMac.
However, it doesn't make sense for Apple to put a 20" display on the iMac without upgrading it to a G5 at the same time. I'd be surprised if they're ready with that. A 20" display is pretty high-end and the G4 now seems pretty low-end and out of date for a pricey desktop machine.
I think the rumor is false. No G5 yet; no 20" screen on an iMac.
This is unlikely and the exact opposite of the design for the dome imac. When introduced Steve said (I'm paraphrasing here) the screen works best vertically, cd/hd/etc work better when placed horizontally thus the new imac was born. This is why they moved away from the all-in-one bubble type of enclosure of the original imac and didn't just put a flat screen in where the old CRT went.
Now, who knows if that is why they REALLY did it or if it just makes for a good story. But that is the reason Apple pitched when introducing the current imac form factor.
I think the Powermac changes seem likely, but I expected a speed increase when they add a second dual processor model. Even if it was only a change to single 1.8GHz, dual 2.0GHz, and dual 2.2GHz.
The 20" iMac actually seems possible to me, but not until sometime in 2004, and with a G5 inside. If any of you remember the Powermac back in 1997 for the 20th anniversary of Apple, it was very expensive. But hopefully they learned from the fact that it did not sell very well, and actually create something worth buying this time. For the 20th anniversary of Macintosh, I think a 20" iMac could happen.
The 20" iMac actually seems possible to me, but not until sometime in 2004, and with a G5 inside. If any of you remember the Powermac back in 1997 for the 20th anniversary of Apple, it was very expensive. But hopefully they learned from the fact that it did not sell very well, and actually create something worth buying this time. For the 20th anniversary of Macintosh, I think a 20" iMac could happen.
Dual 1.8's tomorrow, extremely likely! I bet some software will be updated along the pro line.
Lets see how accurate my assumptions are.
Lets see how accurate my assumptions are.
How does something get outdated in 6 weeks? Does the same go with your harddrive when a larger capacity one is released? It can still store your data right? And your programs still run? Same with the iPod, it can still play your songs just as good as the newly released one, right?
When it comes to being outdated try 6 years instead. Then I might agree with you. Otherwise I can't understand this kind of mentality.
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Please arn, you don't have to post this, but pay better attention to your spelling and grammar if you want to be taken seriously. its is the possessive form;it's should only be used in place of it is. It's really quite simple to use this rule; its misuse can leave a bad taste in one's mouth.
Otherwise, great job.
Please arn, you don't have to post this, but pay better attention to your spelling and grammar if you want to be taken seriously. its is the possessive form;it's should only be used in place of it is. It's really quite simple to use this rule; its misuse can leave a bad taste in one's mouth.
Otherwise, great job.
I like the concept of all the hardware placed behind the screen (a laptop with the screen fliped over comes to mind.)
Hard drives work the same no matter what how they sit as long as it is stable. Same with LCD's and CD drive(can't have CD drive upside down unless slot load.) Thats what the little tabs around the edge are for, so to hold the CD when loading vertically.
The only problem with an All in one LCD computer would be it would most likley have to be wall mounted.
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Good boy, I understand that it's very late, I was about to go Merriam-Webster on your ass.
Originally posted by Ja Di ksw
edit, lol, nm
Good boy, I understand that it's very late, I was about to go Merriam-Webster on your ass.
vertical iMac without base
As much as I dislike the current iMac design and would all along have favored a design such as the one discussed here (inner workings behind the flat screen, notr on a separate base), I think it is unfortunately extremely unlikely that Steve Jobs would allow Ive to do this.
Does anyone remember the orchard story behind the current design? As far as I remember, supposedly a modern, sleek form factor just as the one described above was actually first proposed by Ive when they designed the current iMac. When Jobs saw the proposed design, he invited Ive over for an afternoon walk in Jobs' wife's apricot orchard behind Jobs' house in PA. Ive was really nervous, not knowing what was ahead. Jobs supposedly gently brought home the fact that he didn't like the vertical design at all, giving the same reasons he later publicly discloesd (see post above).
Thus, he made Ive start from scratch again which lead to the current design. Please correct me if my memory of this story is faulty in some aspect.
As much as I dislike the current iMac design and would all along have favored a design such as the one discussed here (inner workings behind the flat screen, notr on a separate base), I think it is unfortunately extremely unlikely that Steve Jobs would allow Ive to do this.
Does anyone remember the orchard story behind the current design? As far as I remember, supposedly a modern, sleek form factor just as the one described above was actually first proposed by Ive when they designed the current iMac. When Jobs saw the proposed design, he invited Ive over for an afternoon walk in Jobs' wife's apricot orchard behind Jobs' house in PA. Ive was really nervous, not knowing what was ahead. Jobs supposedly gently brought home the fact that he didn't like the vertical design at all, giving the same reasons he later publicly discloesd (see post above).
Thus, he made Ive start from scratch again which lead to the current design. Please correct me if my memory of this story is faulty in some aspect.
new screen tech
forget screen sizes and new Lcd panel designs... I feel that apple need to go for altogether new kinds of technology for their screens... they need to innovate and lead the way...
OLED is good, I always thought that it would be a good idea, esp in laptops, but maybe it isn't ready yet, but there are devices like mobile phones on the market now with OLED, so maybe in the iPod? OLED, I have seen in action on a prototype Toshiba I think and it was coming along very well indeed, it does have a very Organic feel, like the screen is evolving in front of your very eyes. I also think that Mac OS X has that kind of effect and these two would be a great coupling...
also, has anyone seen the new screen tech from Sony on one of it's tiny baby laptops? they call it 'Onyx Black' and MAN, that image quality is the best I have ever seen. The blacks are pure black and the contrast is amazing... The viewing angle also puts Apple's laptops to shame. I want to see some of this stuff in Apple Laptops soon, because I demand the best quality everything in my Powerbook, I'm paying for it aren't I?
The most Annoying thing about my Powerbook screen is when I watch a DVD on it that has black borders on the top and bottom... no matter how hard I try, I can never get the 'black' borders to look black... I think it a problem with the capability of the screen tech and I want this rectified...
I know that this thread is not about about laptops or portable devices in general... I just wanted to get my rant in.
however, I think 20" on an iMac is way overkill, it would be sweet, but overkill... the screen would look like a monstrosity unless they redo the base, and I don't think they will redo the case and still keep with the G5. THe R&D costs would be too high for somthing that would only last about 1-2 years in it's lifecycle, unless they plan on keeping the new form factor when they make a switch to G5. I doubt it, as Apple would want to make a big splash.
A 20" inch screen on the current base would lose it's aesthetic balance, and for that reason alone, I couldn't justify it.
forget screen sizes and new Lcd panel designs... I feel that apple need to go for altogether new kinds of technology for their screens... they need to innovate and lead the way...
OLED is good, I always thought that it would be a good idea, esp in laptops, but maybe it isn't ready yet, but there are devices like mobile phones on the market now with OLED, so maybe in the iPod? OLED, I have seen in action on a prototype Toshiba I think and it was coming along very well indeed, it does have a very Organic feel, like the screen is evolving in front of your very eyes. I also think that Mac OS X has that kind of effect and these two would be a great coupling...
also, has anyone seen the new screen tech from Sony on one of it's tiny baby laptops? they call it 'Onyx Black' and MAN, that image quality is the best I have ever seen. The blacks are pure black and the contrast is amazing... The viewing angle also puts Apple's laptops to shame. I want to see some of this stuff in Apple Laptops soon, because I demand the best quality everything in my Powerbook, I'm paying for it aren't I?
The most Annoying thing about my Powerbook screen is when I watch a DVD on it that has black borders on the top and bottom... no matter how hard I try, I can never get the 'black' borders to look black... I think it a problem with the capability of the screen tech and I want this rectified...
I know that this thread is not about about laptops or portable devices in general... I just wanted to get my rant in.
however, I think 20" on an iMac is way overkill, it would be sweet, but overkill... the screen would look like a monstrosity unless they redo the base, and I don't think they will redo the case and still keep with the G5. THe R&D costs would be too high for somthing that would only last about 1-2 years in it's lifecycle, unless they plan on keeping the new form factor when they make a switch to G5. I doubt it, as Apple would want to make a big splash.
A 20" inch screen on the current base would lose it's aesthetic balance, and for that reason alone, I couldn't justify it.