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Also, whomever has the m395x, please boot into windows and grab a CPU-Z screenshot. It would be good to figure out exactly what that chip is and how it stacks up.
 
Also, whomever has the m395x, please boot into windows and grab a CPU-Z screenshot. It would be good to figure out exactly what that chip is and how it stacks up.

That would be @robert.moss and @SBruv that I know of.
K. I'm off to bed. Almost complete results for Cinebench, just missing M380. But as you can see some results are strange (higher card has lower results). I guess still too many variables... Perhaps the answer is then that the cards are pretty similar and not worth the upgrade...
 
That would be @robert.moss and @SBruv that I know of.
K. I'm off to bed. Almost complete results for Cinebench, just missing M380. But as you can see some results are strange (higher card has lower results). I guess still too many variables... Perhaps the answer is then that the cards are pretty similar and not worth the upgrade...


The i5 vs i7 is clouding the results. My completely bullcrap benchracer opinion is that for gaming get the highest video chip you can as the skylake i5 is plenty powerful enough and the i7 just adds more heat (theoretically) causing the graphics chip to throttle.

If you are doing processing heavy (video/audio encoding, photoshop filtering) the extra threading and cache of the i7 matters more and spending $200+ on video ram is likely a waste. At least that will probably be my justification to BTO an i5 w/ a m395x at some point.
 
The i5 vs i7 is clouding the results. My completely bullcrap benchracer opinion is that for gaming get the highest video chip you can as the skylake i5 is plenty powerful enough and the i7 just adds more heat (theoretically) causing the graphics chip to throttle.

If you are doing processing heavy (video/audio encoding, photoshop filtering) the extra threading and cache of the i7 matters more and spending $200+ on video ram is likely a waste. At least that will probably be my justification to BTO an i5 w/ a m395x at some point.

Yep. That's my thought at this stage too. But we'll see what the benchmarks turn up. It needs to be significantly better to be worth the +$300...
 
Sorry just returned my 2015 iMac as there was so little improvement over my 2014

I think you did the right thing. Hopefully your able to provide Apple with feedback and they take your (and our) dissatisfaction with their $2,000+ "computer" into consideration with future models.

Can you provide feedback to Apple regarding your return?
 
I think you did the right thing. Hopefully your able to provide Apple with feedback and they take your (and our) dissatisfaction with their $2,000+ "computer" into consideration with future models.

Can you provide feedback to Apple regarding your return?
Sorry just returned my 2015 iMac as there was so little improvement over my 2014

Since they never added Thunderbolt 3 to these iMacs, even though they should have been able to, since they are Skylake, the only real improvement is better colour spectrum. The speed improvements (processing and graphics) are quite negligible
 
Since they never added Thunderbolt 3 to these iMacs, even though they should have been able to, since they are Skylake, the only real improvement is better colour spectrum. The speed improvements (processing and graphics) are quite negligible

My response to that is another guess: The entire line of Macs from lowest end laptop to mac mini, to iMacs, to pro laptops, to mac pro will all get thunderbolt 3 and have a chip to drive a new retina external display.

Makes waiting around with my crappy-for-games 2012 iMac a lack-luster holdover.

EDIT: I meant to say 2012 Mac Mini. Apologies for the confusion.
 
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Can someone please definitely confirm that there not heat/noise issues like with m295x anymore? Preferably if you tested this in (bootcamp) games for a longer time.
Because that's the real deal maker or breaker for me. Even if the performance is the same as last year's. Thanks!
 
Can someone please definitely confirm that there not heat/noise issues like with m295x anymore? Preferably if you tested this in (bootcamp) games for a longer time.
Because that's the real deal maker or breaker for me. Even if the performance is the same as last year's. Thanks!

I played 2 hours of BF4 with the i5 3.3 & m395 and there was no fan noise
 
My response to that is another guess: The entire line of Macs from lowest end laptop to mac mini, to iMacs, to pro laptops, to mac pro will all get thunderbolt 3 and have a chip to drive a new retina external display.

Makes waiting around with my crappy-for-games 2012 iMac a lack-luster holdover.
Haha. If you think your 2012 is crappy... ( my iMac's in my sig).
Plus some of these benchmarks seem to show that because the retinas have to drive so many more pixels, frame rates are actually comparable with your 2012 no?
 
Nay. I actually thought tessellation was Unigine's term for anti-aliasing, but I could be wrong?
Tesselation is the complexity of the real time 3D model. The higher the factor is applied, the more triangles the models use.
 
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Haha. If you think your 2012 is crappy... ( my iMac's in my sig).
Plus some of these benchmarks seem to show that because the retinas have to drive so many more pixels, frame rates are actually comparable with your 2012 no?


Apologies I was blurry eyed and meant to say my 2012 Mac Mini.
 
Hey guys, I have the fancy late 2015 i7 4.0ghz m395x system with a 512gig ssd. Have bootcamp installed and windows 10. For some reason wifi isn't working in windows but is there anything you want me to run? Just let me know and I'll help. Thanks!

One thing I will say is as a professional photographer I use lightroom quite heavily. My old imac used to get hot when exporting 500 images from cr2 to jpg and this new one is silent the entire time and doesn't heat up at all. Looked on youtube and others have confirmed that the days of thermal throttling are pretty much done, between a ssd and the skylake processor this thing stays quite cool even under heavy use. ;)
 
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Hey guys, I have the fancy late 2015 i7 4.0ghz m395x system with a 512gig ssd. Have bootcamp installed and windows 10. For some reason wifi isn't working in windows but is there anything you want me to run? Just let me know and I'll help. Thanks!

One thing I will say is as a professional photographer I use lightroom quite heavily. My old imac used to get hot when exporting 500 images from cr2 to jpg and this new one is silent the entire time and doesn't heat up at all. Looked on youtube and others have confirmed that the days of thermal throttling are pretty much done, between a ssd and the skylake processor this thing stays quite cool even under heavy use. ;)

Not sure if there is an in depth 395 vs 395x yet?
 
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