27" iMac late 2015 i5 3.3 & AMD m395 benchmarks

[jerwin]

1920x1080 vs 2560x1440...

On my card, that's good for 14.7 fps vs 24.9 fps. (neither of which is playable)

I tell you, if we're going to swap benchmarks, a standard preset govenring everything from API, Quality,Tesselation,Stereo.Anti-Aliasing, full screen, and Resolution is a must.

 

[SBruv]

1920x1080 vs 2560x1440...

On my card, that's good for 14.7 fps vs 24.9 fps. (neither of which is playable)

I tell you, if we're going to swap benchmarks, a standard preset govenring everything from API, Quality,Tesselation,Stereo.Anti-Aliasing, full screen, and Resolution is a must.

Okay, but we now have comparisons between the 680MX and the 395 running at 1080p, then the 680MX and the 395X running at 1440p, and in both cases the Radeons look pretty pathetic.

 

[Macmamamac]

So whats the general consensus after 5 pages in?

Is the M395X worth the extra upgrade costs or is the M395 good enough?

 

[Moriske]

During a visit to the Apple store, I informed me clearly the difference between a M390en M395 is for light photo / video editing for the extra expense in performance just too small, right?

 

[Juliovalverde]

If we compare we have to set the same settings, if you see carefully, the gtx 680m is running Opengl and m395 direct, and m385x is running highest resolution, we need same conditions

 

[AnTaR3s]

This is very weird. Here's my late 2012 GTX680MX running the same test in OS X under OpenGL! The results seem to suggest that it's significantly better than the 395, unless I'm misunderstanding something.

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@SBruv: Can you please run below test in 1440p. So far we had nothing to directly compare. Same settings please

We had Unigine Heaven running with:

- OpenGL
- 2560x1440
- Quality Ultra
- Tessellation: Disabled

Here the new iMac with an i7 and the m395x scored 20.7 fps and a score of 521.
I would really love to see that for the 680MX. I could do it only tomorrow night with my 2012 iMac...

 

[SBruv]

If we compare we have to set the same settings, if you see carefully, the gtx 680m is running Opengl and m395 direct, and m385x is running highest resolution, we need same conditions

But the M395 should have a massive advantage if its running DirectX, so that's not good news. And, sorry, yeah, I've posted my 680MX's 1440p score in a different post, so here it is again. Read it and weep…

 

[SBruv]

@SBruv: Can you please run below test in 1440p. So far we had nothing to directly compare. Same settings please

We had Unigine Heaven running with:

- OpenGL
- 2560x1440
- Quality Ultra
- Tessellation: Disabled

Here the new iMac with an i7 and the m395x scored 20.7 fps and a score of 521.
I would really love to see that for the 680MX. I could do it only tomorrow night with my 2012 iMac...

See post above: 21.5fps and a score of 541. The 395X is looking like a bit of a joke.

I'd be interested to see how the regular 395 scores in the same benchmark. The OP's Heaven benchmark was done at 1080p, so if you're reading this ninja2000, any chance you could step that res up..?

 

[SBruv]

And here's the same in OS X…

 

[SBruv]

And here's Cinebench, where the 680MX does actually get smoked by the Ninja2000's 395 from earlier in the thread (albeit his was in Windows, mine's in OS X)…

 

[Moriske]

During a visit to the Apple store I clearly informed me and the difference between a M390en M395 is for the extra expense just too small, for a none gamer right?

 

[theosg]

Moriske,
If you don't use the iMac for Gaming, 3D Modeling & Rendering (CAD, etc.), A/V Editing, or any other really high intensity work... I don't think you'd even be concerned about the differences between the video cards.
If you are concerned about the video card, please let us know what type of software you use. Other than that, I think we are all in the same boat: not enough info from AMD nor Apple about true performance of each card.
My never-humble opinion is that Apple's sell to the middle strategy has cost them customer goodwill if nothing else.
I'm sitting here very much wanting to order 3 new iMacs, but not willing to jump to order until satisfied with price/performance point.
Thanks to everyone on this whole forum for stepping up and taking your time to post results and info for the rest of us!!!

 

[Moriske]

Thnx
- Use only for Lightroom (used GPU) and much Bluary converting en rendering to MKV
- Video editing iMovie

Which card is best for me M390en M395

 

[theosg]

Well, without as much info as I'd like, let me tell you where I am in the decision-making process:
We use ArchiCAD 18/19 for 3d architectural models, drawings, renderings. Everything else is less intensive than that.
AC 19 will take great advantage of the i7, so that was a pretty easy decision.
All of our data files are on server for central storage and backup, etc. so no need for large TB drive.
That makes the 256 SSD acceptable and the 512 SSD attractive as future-proofing.
As with most commenting here:
8 GB and buy 3rd party RAM
Hardest decision = GPU

To anyone with moxy:
Can you tell me what you'd do in my position?

395?
395X?
Wait for more benchmarks?
I'd like to order soon...

 

[TechZeke]

This thread is a fustercluck.

But seriously though, although I appreciate the time people have taken to post benchmarks, we need standard settings and more benchmarks than just 1 one. Especially since we comparing the AMD and nvidia cards.

It's difficult and doesn't accomplish much if 1 guy on page 1 posts a benchmark of his M395 on Ultra at 1080p, another posts his 680MX on Extreme at 1440p on page 3, and yet another posts his M395X on Ultra at 1440p on page 5. Even I'm getting a headache going back and forth across multiple pages trying to figure out whats going on and compare.

 

[theosg]

amen Amen AMEN !!!
glad you took time to write that.
my head exploded before my fingers could hit the keys.

this whole thread made me wish I had the credit line to just buy one of each frickin model and run my own benchmarks.

herd these kittens!

 

[sn0man1]

amen Amen AMEN !!!
glad you took time to write that.
my head exploded before my fingers could hit the keys.

this whole thread made me wish I had the credit line to just buy one of each frickin model and run my own benchmarks.

herd these kittens!

I am with you. I created an account on these forums just to say we need more coordination. I am considering messaging people with specific devices I want benchmarked in order to get some results.

 

[jerwin]

1. Unigine Heaven running with:
- OpenGL
- 2560x1440
- Quality Ultra
- Tessellation: Disabled

antialiasing yea or nay?

 

[fruitpunch.ben]

antialiasing yea or nay?

Nay. I actually thought tessellation was Unigine's term for anti-aliasing, but I could be wrong?

 

[jerwin]

no. Tesselation makes the geometry more complicated-- the dragon grows spines, the cobbled streets look more cobbled, the ropes actually look like ropes and so on and so forth. It's hardly subtle, but it will affect the framerate.

 

[fruitpunch.ben]

View attachment 594657 View attachment 594658 no. Tesselation makes the geometry more complicated-- the dragon grows spines, the cobbled streets look more cobbled, the ropes actually look like ropes and so on and so forth. It's hardly subtle, but it will affect the framerate.

K. thanks! I know little about high end gaming. I just want to know the % increase in graphics performance to figure out if the upgrades are worth it.

 

[theosg]

Ben=Hero.
I've never enjoyed fruitpunch more!

 

[fruitpunch.ben]

Ben=Hero.
I've never enjoyed fruitpunch more!

except in about 15 minutes I'm going to bed. Someone else will have to copy and continue my post as the results come in.
I also never actually messaged anyone. sn0man1 or someone can comb back through the thread for people who have specific machines and message them to get specific results

 

[sn0man1]

except in about 15 minutes I'm going to bed. Someone else will have to copy and continue my post as the results come in.
I also never actually messaged anyone. sn0man1 or someone can comb back through the thread for people who have specific machines and message them to get specific results

I'm about to go to bed as well. I also messaged someone but they told me they returned their iMac because they were unimpressed with it. I'm not going to say who that was (they can volunteer that information).

Hopefully we can find someone with a M390, a M395, and a M395x to do some comparisons. Ideally all with either core i5 or core i7 (or both) so we can isolate graphics card variations.

My pointed interests would be gaming benchmarks, heat soak likelihood of the M395X, whether said heat soak makes the M395x worth any upgrade to the M395, and CPU-Z for the M395x.

 

[fruitpunch.ben]

I'm about to go to bed as well. I also messaged someone but they told me they returned their iMac because they were unimpressed with it. I'm not going to say who that was (they can volunteer that information).

Hopefully we can find someone with a M390, a M395, and a M395x to do some comparisons. Ideally all with either core i5 or core i7 (or both) so we can isolate graphics card variations.

My pointed interests would be gaming benchmarks, heat soak likelihood of the M395X, whether said heat soak makes the M395x worth any upgrade to the M395, and CPU-Z for the M395x.

@ninja2000 if you still have your iMac, can you post results:
Unigine Heaven running with:
- OpenGL
- 2560x1440
- Quality Ultra
- Tessellation: Disabled
- Antialiasing: Disabled