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2nd Generation iPod Touch: 2.1 Firmware, Speaker, Thinner
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I am very happy they did not include GPS or a camera. Some of you don't seem to get it. Having too many features will result in either of these two things, higher price for the consumer or same price but lower quality of the product in order to squeeze in all that nonsense. Please spare me of the "It cost nothing to add these features" because that's not true. You don't know what's involved.
The iPod Touch is a very solid product and I don't want a bunch of bloat that will result in Apple cutting cost and quality in order to satisfy the consumer.
Garmin and TomTom do that crap, they add in bluetooth for your cell and an MP3 player and the quality is very poor on those features in order to keep the cost down.
You make a good point... it is about space. I'm guessing this dropping the 160gb model will be short lived, replacing the 120gb with the 240gb eventually. I still think Apple likes to claim the smaller sized being more of a draw than storage space, even though they keep adding content that takes up more room.
Exactly! That's the very reason I'm glad they didn't increase the battery life, add unneeded buttons, or a speaker. All those things would have either increased the price or lowered the quality.
I wanted the touch to have gps to replace my standalone gps.
I've got bluetooth and serial receivers that I can't ever see being used with these products.
You can buy the best bluetooth gps receivers for very little money.
The pda market was/is kept alive by car/air/sea/hand navigation - I would have loved to see a killer apple app to replace all these. They've got tonnes of storage and a distribution network to rinse you for all sorts of maps and charts. With zero research, and knowing how many people already have tomtoms etc. I still think it's a big market to miss out on.
I don't think the ipod is anywhere near great quality or cheap for the features it provides.
The day after the Classic gets reduced fron 160GB to 120GB. Toshiba announce a 240GB drive. Is Apple deliberately trying to *iss us off at every opportunity ?
Toshiba unveils tiny 240 GB HD
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/09/10/toshiba-unveils-tiny-240-gb-hd
What I dont understand is in the past, they upgraded to a higher capacity while keeping the same form factor. Take the old 5th Gen ipod. 30GB and 60GB. 60Gb was upgraded to an 80GB but it kept the 60GB's form factor. They could have done the same with the 160GB. I mean the physical size of the HD cant be any larger then the 120GB.
Also, how come the classics didnt get the nano's new UI. I think the nano's new UI is by far the best to date, even if its just a mod. verson of the classics. Though I'd like to see front row's UI be added to the ipod line up.
Probably because the new UI is designed to work in portrait mode for navigation/selection and in landscape for other things. The Classic doesn't have portrait mode.
True, which is why I doubt they will ever get rid of the most cost effective iPod ever. I do wish they would get rid of this thin is in mentality as well. I wouldn't mind a thicker 17 Macbook Pro or Supreme with more graphics and a faster chip that cools a lot better. But such is life.
And yes, with iTunes now giving me HD TV shows and movies, forget about it, I am going to need the most space I can find. My current Pod plays compressed SD content over the SD TV just fine, so I know HD stuff will work like a charm on both SD and HD.
Cuz it's CLASSIC... but I wouldn't mind seeing the UI from Front Row in the iPod too, but the one problem with it is it's depth. Once you go WAY far into the menus it take a while to get back out. When it comes to speed I honestly have to say the Zune or the PSP comes really close, they aren't that simple however.
Great, gotta shell out more for 2 features I wish they put in the first place.
I can live without a speaker...I'll just grab a new set of headphones for the other, it'll be easier than reaching into my bag/pocket to get the iPod out each time anyway!
Touch continues to disappoint.
Wow, not much different, but they did make it THINNER!!! That's on the top of everyone's list!
For whatever apple did to make it thinner, they should have used the saved space to put in a ton of flash memory.
It could've been the same thin size as before, but with 128GB, finally making it the flagship iPod.
Can't apple take a hint? The majority of iPods sold is STILL the Classic for one reason only, CAPACITY.
As if the initial launch of the Touch wasn't enough of a disappointment, it hasn't gotten much better. In fact, when they went up to 32gb, it didn't get a special event, why does it get one now for nothing?
Wow, not much different, but they did make it THINNER!!! That's on the top of everyone's list!
For whatever apple did to make it thinner, they should have used the saved space to put in a ton of flash memory.
It could've been the same thin size as before, but with 128GB, finally making it the flagship iPod.
Can't apple take a hint? The majority of iPods sold is STILL the Classic for one reason only, CAPACITY.
As if the initial launch of the Touch wasn't enough of a disappointment, it hasn't gotten much better. In fact, when they went up to 32gb, it didn't get a special event, why does it get one now for nothing?
But it's only thinner on the tapered edges. The rest of it is thicker.
Maybe, if they had wanted to price it at $700 or so. The last I checked, 64GB SSDs were going for a minimum of $250, street price.
You know this how, exactly? Could it be that you're just guessing based on what you want to believe and not on facts of any kind? Do you know how large a 16 GB chip is? Do you know the cost of a 64 GB chip? Do you want the iPod Touch to cost $800-$1000?
I couldn't find a source, but I believe I've heard (or read) that the Nano is the best-selling.
Good points, wondercow. The nano is the best selling iPod. Personally, I see more nanos on the train, on the street, from friends, myself then any other iPod model.
And you make a good point about the cost. Sure there iPod touch could have a 128gb model, but at $800... unless you are Donald Trump or Jerry Seinfeld, no one is going to justify that cost for a music player without a phone. They would spend $500 on an iPhone before they'd spend that kind of money on something like that, even with that amount of storage.
I personally like a thinner, lighter iPod. I don't care to carry around something heavy, regardless of how much storage it has. Jogging, walking, in my backpack.... it's all about portability. The storage increases will happen as prices drop. We'll see a128gb touch someday, just not now. It's not economically feasible for the mass market today.
If that were the case then why did the classic's UI got a fresh look last year? Why the larger screen in 2006? Why color screens? Why not the old black and white/monochrome..
what is the real resolution of the screen?
there are two resolutions that appear on this page
http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/specs.html
one says 480x320 (listed at the top) and the other says 640x480 (listed on the sidebar to the right)
which one is correct? the h264 res can't be 640x480 if the screen can't actually do it, can it?
there are two resolutions that appear on this page
http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/specs.html
one says 480x320 (listed at the top) and the other says 640x480 (listed on the sidebar to the right)
which one is correct? the h264 res can't be 640x480 if the screen can't actually do it, can it?
erm.. one is the display resolution, and the other is video resolution support. i.e. you cannot dump a 1080p movie and expect it to play. It can only handle up to 640,480, and it will downsize to fit the display's res.
I can live without a speaker...I'll just grab a new set of headphones for the other, it'll be easier than reaching into my bag/pocket to get the iPod out each time anyway!
Not if you need a loud alarm for college. Music wakes me up the best. Although I have it on my cell phone, I have to set it or else I may forget. With the touch, I could just input it in iCal and sync.
I can live without a speaker...I'll just grab a new set of headphones for the other, it'll be easier than reaching into my bag/pocket to get the iPod out each time anyway!
Hmm... how does that affect battery? In-line volume controls don't change the on-board volume, simply how loud it is by the time it reaches your ears. So you need to leave your iPod volume on full to get the full range.
I wonder if Apple's new volume control earphones actually change the iPod's on-board volume?
I bought a ipod touch 3 weeks ago then found out sunday that a new one was releasing and since i was over the two week period of returning the ipod i was like hmm can i still return it? because i really wanted the external speaker because i never use the head phones, so i went to the apple store and they were happy to exchange my 8gig ipod touch for the new 16gig since it was the same price. all i had to pay was repacking fee from my old one! I love the new ipod touch i couldnt be happier... unless it had like a camera or something!