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2nd Generation iPod Touch: 2.1 Firmware, Speaker, Thinner

inkswamp said:
Those of us who are being negative are simply getting a little fed up with the Mac getting second billing on everything.

* Apple hasn't held a special event for Macs in god-knows-how-long.

* The iMac updates in the last year have left many customers disappointed and many customers unhappy with their lack of display options.

* Updates and spec bumps across the line have slowed considerably from the old days. Apple used to do spec bumps and/or price drops every 4-6 months. It's like they don't really care enough to bother now.

* Displays haven't seen a significant update in ages.

* Mac Mini is long past being a joke. It should have been updated months ago.

* Recent Mac-related events have seen the Mac marginalized in the keynotes. I can handle that from time-to-time, but at WWDC? That's ridiculous.

* And as for the comment that "It was a music event, what did you expect"... you'll need to explain why the iPhone made the billing, but the Mac didn't. They both interact with iTunes and both play music. And how about explaining why the iPhone and iPod/iTunes merit special events, but the Mac never does anymore.

* Significant updates to the Mac line-up, software and OS have been delayed due reportedly to Apple focusing its time and energies on iPhone and iPod.

It's not that some of us are being overly negative. We're just getting a little sick of Apple treating their computer customers like second class citizens. Bravo, we all love the iPhone and the iPod. How about putting the spotlight on the Mac from time-to-time? And no, showing off the expensive, high-end Macbook Air that appeals to a very small segment of Mac users doesn't cut it.
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Yeah - but the iPods have new colors!

Your point taken, but it's kinda like this, though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_vs._Malibu_Stacy
 
inkswamp said:
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Mac Mini should have been updated about a year ago.

We get yah though, and I am waiting for those displays myself. I'd buy the currents ones if I had the cash though, they are still second to top notch.

Clayne said:
Feasible for Macworld?
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Maybe, it all depends on the 32GB flash chips being available. Touch uses TWO 16GB chips to get to 32GBs placed where the phone parts would go in the iPhone. So no 32GB iPhone or 64GB touch until those chips become available, and cheap.
 
Porco said:
That still leaves a £20 disparity.
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Maybe that's just down to delivery and other levied taxes for foreign products.

Until today 16GB iPod touches were £269 so Nike+, 2.x as standard and a redesign @ £219 isn't really bothering me one bit...
 
How long will it take until they make cases, the skin's and stuff for the new ipod touches? I'm afraid to get one before then
 
Audio iChat for Touch?

I would think that with the new earbuds w/mic now available for the new Touch, that :apple: could release a Touch version of iChat for texting and AUDIO via wifi. I don't think it would really be a competitive issue with the iPhone, since the audio communications would be limited to having a wifi signal, and audio chatting through the iChat client. I for one would love it. Especially when traveling overseas and wanting to talk to friends/family back in the States.

What do you think?
 
has anyone noticed that neat little app on the new iPod nano which allows you to record from the new headphones? - where is this in the touch: dictaphone type of stuff is big buisness.

Has anyone seen this?

Also i got to say I think its abit of gimmick, its not really any different then the old touch. button on the side for volume; how difficult is it guys to double hit the main button and slide your vol quickly? Maybe im not a guy who walks along with it my pocket so dont see this major advantage.

But my final point being: is the touch about moving away from buttons?
 
What's up with all these no GPS on iPod touch complaints??? People with an iPhone know that u need an internet connection to get the maps. Without a wifi connection GPS on the touch is useless! You'd just have a blue dot on a blank page! Maps aren't stored on the device dudes!
 
angusshangus said:
What's up with all these no GPS on iPod touch complaints??? People with an iPhone know that u need an internet connection to get the maps. Without a wifi connection GPS on the touch is useless! You'd just have a blue dot on a blank page! Maps aren't stored on the device dudes!
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How many times is this explained in these forums?
Some of you with iphones don't know any better.
 
FoxyKaye said:
Hey now, no reason to get snarky. A friend of mine was tossed over her handlebars last week: her $40 helmet was shattered, she cracked her collerbone, had some cuts and scrapes, but was otherwise OK (bike is still pending a check out by the shop before she takes it on the road again). She did lose a $300 digital camera, however, and unlike her medical expenses, it wasn't covered by insurance.

All I'm saying is that expensive toys and street biking don't generally mix. Getting hit by a vehicle is almost an inevitability if you've been biking long enough, and I'd rather not add insult to injury by losing even more money in the process.
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I didn't mean to poke fun - I was just saying that after being hit by a car while you're riding your bike, well, you're lucky to be alive. iPods and cameras are valuable though replaceable; people are not replaceable.
 
drb6 said:
Well to begin with, I think a lot of people rightly didn't expect much from the update. The Nano update was definitely more interesting.

What we got was a small incremental update which they have to do to keep the line fresh. Maybe they just weren't ready with the bigger updates. Who knows. All it means is that some people will sit on their money for a bit longer if this doesn't fit their needs.
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I will go this way... the update is tempting, at some point I expect to update my 4th Gen U2 ipod, but given how Apple likes to charge for many of the Touch updates, I can easily hold out a while and see what comes along by way of extra features added through software updates.
 
I have already a 1st gen 16GB so I will wait for the 64GB update after Christmas. :) It bugs me the 2nd generation Touch doesn't come with the cable remote. :(
 
VoR said:
How many times is this explained in these forums?
Some of you with iphones don't know any better.
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Yeah, honestly. The Maps are stored in practically every OTHER dedicated GPS device. It would take about 1 to 2 Gb of space tho, assuming like Garmin quality maps, so it might not be entirely plausible.

Eric S. said:
It's a major pain when your boss walks into your office and you miss his first two sentences. :cool:

Which is also why a pause button would be more useful than volume controls.
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Definitely. I've always thought the touch should have the option of setting the home button as a "quick pause" kinda thing if you double tap it or hold it down for a second.

I'm actually satisfied with the updates given today. Essentially, we're getting a better product for $100 less. I fail to see how the price cut alone isn't worth the enthusiasm, but extended battery life, even sexier form factor, and the new minor, but welcome additions all make this a considerable better product.

Maybe it's because I didn't expect an iPod sized MacBook/GPS/microwave that I'm not disappointed by what really is a decent upgrade. Sure the lack of increased capacity and camera and GPS is disappointing, but that's only Apple not living up to almost divine-like expectations we have of it. They did a bang up job, and it's kinda sad to see how many of us fail to appreciate that they could have released the same product with like 1 new feature, and still sold probably just as well.
 
Does anybody know how long it generally takes for the new iPods to be available in non-Apple stores?
 
aaronh3 said:
Lame, who cares about thinner for %$% sake give us more storage space!
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If Apple thought it feasible to create 64GB iPod touches, I'm sure they'd do it - but no one would buy a device THAT expensive. If you want an HD-based iPod touch, then you'll just complain about the sluggish UI and terrible battery life.
 
resonator said:
Yes the iPod Touch is great but have you ever been traveling and need to listen to the news? Throw in a f***n AM/FM radio - how hard is that to do?!! Ever other media player has one built in. Yes I already own the radio remote but I don't want to carry it and it doesn't work with the iPod touch. Come on Apple - people sometimes need to be connected to the outside world when they are traveling - add the radio !!!
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Why are the twelve people who want this so vocal about it :p
 
angusshangus said:
What's up with all these no GPS on iPod touch complaints??? People with an iPhone know that u need an internet connection to get the maps. Without a wifi connection GPS on the touch is useless! You'd just have a blue dot on a blank page! Maps aren't stored on the device dudes!
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So Apple could sell maps on the App store that the user would transfer to the 'Pod. DUH! Why are so many people so clueless?
 
UK Price INCREASE!

withing a couple of hours, the uk model of the 2nd gen 32gb ipod touch has increased from £279 to £289 !:mad:!:mad:! like we weren't getting ripped off enough already! (and dont give me the VAT crap - its still more).

if you dont believe me, check the cnet uk website... even they have the price listed as £279 because thats what it was a few hours ago at launch!!! link:
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/digitalmusic/0,39029432,49298834,00.htm

i was actually thinking of getting the the 32gb model... now i think i'll get the 16gb in protest :mad:.

:apple: adding insult to injury :mad:
 
Only bothered about one thing, really....and that is that AIM STILL FRICKING CRASHES!
 
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