3 Steps to wake iPhone X vs Single Touch ID?

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    Im open to loosing Touch ID and a home button for a full screen iPhone but how did we go from a single motion process to 3? Am I envisioning this correctly?

    1. Wake iPhone (tap or raise to wake)
    2. Facial ID to unlock
    3. Swipe up to open

    If anything is there an option to at least minimize the motions back to 1? Can the iPhone X just unlock and open right after facial ID?

    *edit* changed “steps” to “motion” since it will always be 3 steps to get to the home screen with a passcode on.
     
  2. BasicGreatGuy Contributor

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    The swipe up is to go to the home screen. FaceID opens the phone automatically.
     
  3. iOSpecialist macrumors member

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    I’m thinking that there might be a setting that makes it go to the home screen as soon as FaceID unlocks the phone, just like the setting that allows you to go to your home screen as soon as Touch ID unlocks it on the current devices.

    I could be wrong but I don’t see why they wouldn’t have the same feature that they have now.
     
  4. HelloMikee thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    It doesn’t really open your phone though, it just unlocks the lock switch or at least from all the hands on videos that’s all it’s doing. So unless you want to just stare at your lock screen you have to swipe to get started. Whereas for Touch ID it’s a single press of the thumb to get you right to your home screen.
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    I don’t see that option. I think because you’re already pressing your thumb down to scan your finger it all seems like one step. Pressing down lightly will just unlock it but not actually open to your home screen.
     
  5. Looney01 macrumors 6502

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    What will be the difference between a swipe up and using TouchID? As soon as you hold the iPhone in front of you the phone will unlock all you do from there is swipe up.
    (It’s as if looking at the phone has become another step)

    The iPhone X will definitely have raise to wake, meaning that as soon as you raise your phone the screen will wake allowing FaceID to activate instantly and then swipe up to go to the home screen. Its not a 3 step process vs 1 step. It’s exactly the same number of steps.
     
  6. ValhallaOutcast macrumors regular

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    I agree with the OP, there is no mention of faceID automatically bringing you to the home screen.

    On touch ID if your dont press down the home button and just touch the button it will unlock but you still have to press the button to unlock, of course this is one motion to unlock and go to home screen with a press.
     
  7. Looney01 macrumors 6502

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    Again, why is everyone making looking at the phone a step. You’re going to be looking at the phone anyway, remove that from the unlock step.

    The steps to unlock:

    1) Wake the phone (tap or raise to wake)

    2) Swipe up

    That’s it. No 3 step process. 2 at max depending if you raise or if you must tap.

    Stop thinking that looking at the phone is another step. It’s not. It’s automatic.
     
  8. HelloMikee thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Right. I guess I should have phrased this as 3 motions vs 1 motion and not “steps”
     
  9. Looney01 macrumors 6502

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    LOL! Looking at a phone is not a “motion”, it is what you will be doing anyway when using your phone. The mind boggles.
     
  10. joeblow7777 macrumors 603

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    Well, if FaceID works as well as Apple says, one could argue that simply looking at your phone doesn't really count as a step, since you have to do that anyway. So you could argue that either process is 2 steps.

    TouchID:
    1. Wake phone
    2. Finger scan

    FaceID
    1. Wake phone
    2. Swipe up
     
  11. HelloMikee thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Again I should have rephrased this as motions vs steps. As it’s a single press motion with fingerprint ID.

    Wouldn’t it be nice if it was at the very least an option to only need a single motion? Look at phone and viola! Lol.
     
  12. Looney01 macrumors 6502

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    Correct and there’s no reason to think that FaceID will not work because Apple is not stupid enough to replace TouchID with FaceID if it didn’t work. They are hellbent on privacy and security, they cannot and will not release a product that does not work and protect their customers privacy.
     
  13. joeblow7777 macrumors 603

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    Are you sure that there's not?
     
  14. HelloMikee thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I been in one to many video meetings where I’m accessing my phone where I’m not directly looking at it so yea it’s a motion. Not sure how that’s mind boggling.
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    Not sure that’s why I was asking but people seem to care more about how I turn on my phone and that I should always be staring directly at it.
     
  15. allthingsapple! macrumors regular

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    technically Touch ID IS also a 3 step process. You have to wake the device (press a button, raise to wake, whatever you have set up) prior to being able to use Touch ID. Once the device is awake if you simply just SET your finger on the home button it does NOT take you to the home screen it only unlocks the device and you then have to swipe to open. The difference is steps 1 and 2 can basically be combined where if you press the home button while using Touch ID then yes the device will take you to your homescreen. I mean unfortunately you cannot press the phone with your face lol. If the phone went to the homescreen every time you picked it up that would be rather annoyng as sometimes you simply want to just view your notifications.
     
  16. joeblow7777 macrumors 603

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    No point in asking. I don't think that anyone outside of Apple has had enough hands on time with the X to have combed through all the settings.

    And people are just (rightly) pointing out that if you're not going to actually look at your phone after waking it, why would you wake it at all? Supposedly FaceID works over a wide field of angles, so you shouldn't even have to point it directly at your face.
     
  17. HelloMikee thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    You bring up a good point about just wanting to see notifications. But at the same time I’m just wondering if it’s an option. For me, I’m always just turning my phone completely on when I grab it so it would be nice to have that option.
     
  18. zhenya macrumors 603

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    You all can argue but the premise is correct. TouchID allows for a single operation to unlock the phone and get to the home screen and there are definitely times where using FaceID instead will require extra steps. One I just used a few hours ago was to unlock my Watch. I reached in my pocket and pressed the home button. Watch unlocked. Using the device in meetings is another - everyone does it, often discreetly enough that they aren't really 'looking' at the screen in any way that is likely to allow FaceID to unlock the phone. In the car with the device sitting in the center console on a charging mat will be another.
     
  19. Looney01 macrumors 6502

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    You use your phone without looking at it? Wow, you some sort of god? So you’re telling me, that, while you are in your video meetings, you are also accessing your phone and using it?
     
  20. joeblow7777 macrumors 603

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    You can set it so that it goes right to the homescreen from simply resting your finger on the button, so that's definitely only 2 steps.
     
  21. Looney01 macrumors 6502

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    And so is FaceID.

    1) wake phone
    2) swipe up
     
  22. HelloMikee thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    I think a lot of you are missing the point. I’m just asking if we can loose the whole swipe up motion. Look at my phone and it opens to the home screen.

    Not sure what’s so hard to grasp about wanting that as an option.
     
  23. joeblow7777 macrumors 603

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    That is literally exactly what I said above:

     
  24. HelloMikee thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    And why not just:

    1) wake up phone
     
  25. Looney01 macrumors 6502

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    To answer your question directly. No ones knows until the iPhone X has been released. Perhaps there is a setting that will allow you to completely bypass the lock screen and go straight to homescreen.
     

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