blackhand1001
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The 3gs is only available on one carrier. That's why you never see it. I doubt many parents many of who are uninformed are going to spend the extra 100 dollars.
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iPod touch $300 Entry Price Point for iPod Touch 5G
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The 3gs is only available on one carrier. That's why you never see it. I doubt many parents many of who are uninformed are going to spend the extra 100 dollars.
Evo V? Design 4G? Exhibit II? Xperia Sola? Are you serious? 😡 Those do not have "comparable hardware" to iPod Touch. Most of them are middling low-cost handsets with sluggish older generation Qualcomm chips, thick poor design(I personally like Evo V and Sola designs but they are still both rather thick) and low grade LCDs. Galaxy Nexus is a great value but it's too big if you're looking to pull your MP3 player out often enough, and its 3D performance is rather poor by today's standard. (see Galaxy Nexus' 3D performance in comparison to the A5 chip in the 3D benchmark here)
iPod Touch is much smaller that these phones which makes it much more ideal as a MP3 player. Its A5 processor still easily outpaces any of those phones when you consider its huge advantage in 3D games. Even the camera of iPod Touch will be either better or at least competitive against any of them. Then there's the metal casing which should make iPod Touch feel much more solid than any of those phones, even Galaxy Nexus.
As the final kicker, according to reports, the new iPod Touch has the same screen as the iPhone 5, which means it is simply in a different league; a full sRGB IPS screen with the high pixel density, stellar brightness and great outdoor visibility.
I also wish Apple made a cheaper version of iPod Touch but to claim the aforementioned phones offer the similar level of hardware is simply hogwash.
Plutonius
macrumors G4
Wait till next year then. Apple is following the same pricing schedule that they have had on the Touch since the 3rd gen. The 16Gb A4 will be updated to an A5 next year when the 32Gb and 64Gb get very minor updates.
Solomani
macrumors 601
This 2012 iPod Touch actually has a significant leap in terms of hardware specs. With dual-core A5 chip, that's far better processing power compared to prior model. Upgraded optics/camera, and the stretched 4-inch (retina) screen of the iPhone5, full 1080 video for those times when you need to instantly video record that racist cop about to beat up and taser your ethnic friend, etc. Sans voice phone, it can run most iOS apps that an iPhone 5 can.
Is it perfect? No. My only two (minor) gripes are #1) the price is a tad bit high, and #2) there is no GPS. Other than those two gripes, it pretty much lives up to what people would expect from the iTouch.... essentially like an iPhone without the phone.
As I have a nice but not huge collection of music, even a 32GB iTouch is a perfect depository for my music collection. I don't intend to use it as a phone, but rather this device houses my music that I want to hear on a regular basis. Most of the time, such a device would be attached to my car's iPod adapter cable, or sitting on top of the iPod dock on a Bose or Altec speaker etc. At other times, it's coming with me to the gym so I listen to music and block out noise while I work out. And WTF is up with those guys who go to gym and spend half their workout hour talking or texting their girlfriends on the smartphone? Dude, are you there to workout and get fit, or are you there to do kinky sexting with girlypoo? I don't get those people.
IMHO, a more reasonable price point should have been $249 for 32GB. But Apple calls the shots on pricing, so that means I just have pay a little more. I have a well-paying job, so the complaints about pricing won't come from people like me.
Colors. Meh.... who cares, most guys would have chosen the default black/slate anyways. There's still that choice.
Is it perfect? No. My only two (minor) gripes are #1) the price is a tad bit high, and #2) there is no GPS. Other than those two gripes, it pretty much lives up to what people would expect from the iTouch.... essentially like an iPhone without the phone.
As I have a nice but not huge collection of music, even a 32GB iTouch is a perfect depository for my music collection. I don't intend to use it as a phone, but rather this device houses my music that I want to hear on a regular basis. Most of the time, such a device would be attached to my car's iPod adapter cable, or sitting on top of the iPod dock on a Bose or Altec speaker etc. At other times, it's coming with me to the gym so I listen to music and block out noise while I work out. And WTF is up with those guys who go to gym and spend half their workout hour talking or texting their girlfriends on the smartphone? Dude, are you there to workout and get fit, or are you there to do kinky sexting with girlypoo? I don't get those people.
IMHO, a more reasonable price point should have been $249 for 32GB. But Apple calls the shots on pricing, so that means I just have pay a little more. I have a well-paying job, so the complaints about pricing won't come from people like me.
Colors. Meh.... who cares, most guys would have chosen the default black/slate anyways. There's still that choice.
I don't actually, but my point is that $299 is too expensive for an MP3 player. I want an MP3 player with a lot of storage. I do not not want a camera, game player, or app platform.
$299 is expensive for 32 GB, sure, but that isn't any different from previous generations. The real problem here is that there isn't a 8 or 16 GB fifth gen touch at $249.
Plutonius
macrumors G4
Wait till next year then. Apple has been following the same pricing roadmap for the Touch since the 3rd gen Touch. Next year, the 32Gb and 64Gb Touch will get minor updates and the 16Gb Touch will be updated to the current Touch hardware.
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Then you don't want / need an iPod Touch 😀.
Solomani
macrumors 601
Then you, by your admission, are not the intended customer for the iPod Touch. It is no secret that iPod Touch is marketed as more than just a music player. It can also surf the web, play videos, do email, run gazillions of apps and games like Angry Birds, and of course can take pictures and videos too. All those functionalities sorta explain the high price of the iPod Touch....because it's a lot more than an MP3 player.
You should have been able to figure that out long before now, that is was not suitable for your needs, rather than debating with other users here as to why "iPod Touch just doesn't cut it for you". If you just need an MP3 player.... lots of generics out there, cheaper and with larger capacities. I myself got a Creative 'Zen' MP3 player years ago before I decided embracing iPods. It was drop dead cheap, reasonable capacity for its time, and it was one of the "semi-decent name brands" where I can trust it to last a bit longer than some junk Taiwanese knockoff brand like iLuvMusic or somesuch.
To be honest, the days when Apple made iPods that simply focused on playing MP3s or iTunes AACs is long past. The era of iPod Classics is pretty much over. Can't really blame them, as the market for that kind of device is small. Blame it on the market. Because the "market" today has a preference for mobile gadgets that can do everything and anything, all packed into a singular small device that fits in a purse.
These are fair points and totally accepted. When I bought my original iPod Touch, I was in the market as it was my first gadget. Since then, I've matured and gained additional devices, and discovered that I only use my iPod for music playing.
I now have a smart phone, tablet, and digital camera. Unfortunately with an investment into organizing media by iTunes I'm sort of locked in.
To your point about alternatives, iPod classic, as I know it, is the only media player with more than 64 gigs still in production.
Mr. Retrofire
macrumors 603
I found it ridiculous and was not sure if I was prepared to pay that much, but I just won one on a penny auction and saved myself a LOT of cash!!! 😀
Bring it on 🙂
Bring it on 🙂
The Nexus 7 is $199 and the Kindle Fire is $159. So basically, you're paying either $100 or $140 more just for Apple's ecosystem and portability, as opposed to getting a mini-tablet.
Some may say it isn't worth it, but I preordered the black 32GB 5th gen.
Plutonius
macrumors G4
The 5th gen in 32GB. Since it has not been released yet they didn't specify on a colour, guess they'll ask me nearer the time when they get hold of it.
It was my second time ever using that type of site.
It costs apple roughly 12$ to increase the storage by 16gb.
I assume the reason there is no 199$ device is because the decice itself probably costs 100-120$, and that would not leave enough profit for apple. The iPod 4 8gb costs under 90$
I assume the reason there is no 199$ device is because the decice itself probably costs 100-120$, and that would not leave enough profit for apple. The iPod 4 8gb costs under 90$
Thats nice quoting prices with rebates, but try looking up how much a new one costs full MSRP. On top of signing a 2 year agreement, they require "everything" plans which are $100 a month, and many carriers also charge an extra $10 a month fee on top of it to use some of those phones. I know Sprint/Nextel does.
And since i'm sure your counterpoint will be, oh you can just buy it used. Well, now you are comparing a used product to a new one, and buying used, they are still significantly more expensive than a new iPod Touch.
Plus they are bigger, thicker, and heavier. And it's also a drag having a de-activated smartphone that has features you will not be able to take advantage of. Do you know anyone who uses a de-activated smartphone? I don't. It's not a popular idea for good reasons.
Try making a fair comparison 🙂
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If you think the only thing the iPad has on a Kindle Fire is ecosystem and portability, you should really do a little more research.
I think next year apple is going to add 16 gb .. Like on the 4th gen they added white one year later .
The title od this thread is somewhat misleading. 2012's starting price point is 199$ for the previous iPod touch model, while for the 5th gen it's 299$ for 32GB. Last year the price for iPod touch 4th gen 32GB was exactly the same 299$. Nothing has changes here. Apple decided to no longer sell 16GB model, probably because it's not enough for today's standards of storage houngry apps games etc. Kepp in mind that 16GB transfers to 13GB. 32GB transfers to 28GB and with that capacity you can do a lot more.
Zmanbaseball2
macrumors 68040
Plutonius
macrumors G4
Next year, the 16Gb will be updated to the newest design (not sure if the price will still be $199) while the 32Gb/64Gb will get minor updates. If you want a 16Gb newest Touch design, wait till next year. Apple will not be designing any more 8Gb Touches.
Uhm, I picked those specific phones because their prices are off-contract, like I said on the second paragraph. Please read the posts before quoting on them.