32GB standard on iPhone 5S?

[BJMRamage]

No, the 4S offered 16/32/64 just like the 4.

I don't see Apple eliminating the 16GB base model.

odd, when i bought my iPhone 4 the top of the line storage was 32GB...8-16-32 models


not that this is proof: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iphone_4


and looking at the bottom of the iPhone 4S page (maybe on teh iP4 page as well) they have a nice chart showing the storage of models and it is steadily increasing.

 

[TyPod]

With storage being so cheap these days and competitors beginning to offer 32GB standard, I can't imagine not - but I figure I'd ask what you all think.

I highly doubt it. They are selling so many 16GB devices and it's not like their competition is pushing them to move towards a 32GB standard.

 

[TheAppleFairy]

No, for me 16 gig is more than enough, I don't need 32 gig.

If they had a 16gig for $199 and and a 32gig for $199. I find it hard to believe anyone would opt for the 16gig.

I am sure you're going to reply and say you'd still take the 16gig, and I will ignore it, because I won't believe it.

 

[Cod3rror]

Well, it should be 32/64/128 by now since Samsung has started shipping 128GB chips a good while ago.

However, I'm afraid 16/32/64 will be here for a couple of years, much like drives supplied with laptops topped out at 500GB on average.

 

[rex3]

Just like another poster who wrote that Apple is doomed if they don't go wider on the next phone. Give us a break. You people that say these silly things about Apple.. Heard these doom and gloom posts for many a year now and Apple does not change, so get use to it or go else where....


Why not continue to offer 16 GB ? Why not even offer 8 GB for those that don't need that much, and Apple can offer these amounts to save a little bit for us ?

If you want 32 GB just buy that model. Yes, it cost a bit more, but that's their business model to make money.

I don't pretend to know what Apple or even most consumers will do, but I think your analysis here is a bit off. Of course Apple is in it to make money; the question for them is how best to do that. Offering an 8gb iPhone 5s would only knock $5 off cost for them--where's the sense in that? Their current pricing at best reflects flash storage prices from three years ago. Sooner or later, they will have to revise either their pricing or the amount of storage offered at each price. It will happen this year with the 5s or next year with the 6; my money is on this year, due to lack of other compelling reasons to upgrade to a 5s. There is no way they will be selling an iPhone 6 in April of 2015 for 16/32/64 at $199/299/399. The iPhone 4 went on sale in June 2010 for 16/32 at $199/299.

Speaking for myself only, I have a 32 gb iPhone 4 that is nearly 3 years old. I might have upgraded to a 4s, and I **certainly** would have bought a 5, if the price for a 32 gb model was $199 instead of $299. By pricing it higher, Apple lost the opportunity to sell me phones more frequently. Do the math and figure out how Apple could have made more money: by selling me a phone every year or every other year at a slightly lower price, or by selling me a phone every 3-4 years at a higher price. (And remember: the actual, non-subsidized prices are $649/749/849. The extra $10 in cost to bump up base storage to 32 is small beans in a $650 product.)

The argument that those who need a higher storage capacity will just fork over an extra $100-200 isn't true: we might hold on to our iPhone 4 or 4s or 5 for longer than we would otherwise. Maybe "drive people away" wasn't accurate; what we might do is just keep using our old iPhones. Either way, it's a loss of revenue for Apple.

 

[bjcskier]

At this point, 32GB should be the base model. It's one more proof point for Apple to promote the 5S when it comes out.

 

[617aircav]

I don't pretend to know what Apple or even most consumers will do, but I think your analysis here is a bit off. Of course Apple is in it to make money; the question for them is how best to do that. Offering an 8gb iPhone 5s would only knock $5 off cost for them--where's the sense in that? Their current pricing at best reflects flash storage prices from three years ago. Sooner or later, they will have to revise either their pricing or the amount of storage offered at each price. It will happen this year with the 5s or next year with the 6; my money is on this year, due to lack of other compelling reasons to upgrade to a 5s. There is no way they will be selling an iPhone 6 in April of 2015 for 16/32/64 at $199/299/399. The iPhone 4 went on sale in June 2010 for 16/32 at $199/299.

Speaking for myself only, I have a 32 gb iPhone 4 that is nearly 3 years old. I might have upgraded to a 4s, and I **certainly** would have bought a 5, if the price for a 32 gb model was $199 instead of $299. By pricing it higher, Apple lost the opportunity to sell me phones more frequently. Do the math and figure out how Apple could have made more money: by selling me a phone every year or every other year at a slightly lower price, or by selling me a phone every 3-4 years at a higher price. (And remember: the actual, non-subsidized prices are $649/749/849. The extra $10 in cost to bump up base storage to 32 is small beans in a $650 product.)

The argument that those who need a higher storage capacity will just fork over an extra $100-200 isn't true: we might hold on to our iPhone 4 or 4s or 5 for longer than we would otherwise. Maybe "drive people away" wasn't accurate; what we might do is just keep using our old iPhones. Either way, it's a loss of revenue for Apple.

Record sales say otherwise.

 

[igazza]

The latest android phones come in 64GB + support 64GB micro SD cards, Apple best give us 128GB 5s

 

[Michael CM1]

What extra cost are you talking about? ...or don't you realize how cheap the storage actually is/ how much Apple is ripping the customers off?

There are rumors that the HTC One is to be released at $200 (with contract) and it will ship with 32GB storage.

I know the extra cost for 32GB of flash is nowhere near the $100 Apple makes you think it might be. But even if it's $10 more, that's a lot of lost revenue for Apple on the $199 model for something a lot of people don't need. It would be an extra $10 in cost per phone plus a lot of lost revenue for people like us who would've otherwise spent an extra $100 for it.

I did see the HTC One listing of $200 for 32GB on Cnet after I posted this, which makes it the first one I have seen. So maybe Apple will do that.

Me, I'd be happy with the 16, 64 and 128 options. But if it turns out to be 32, 64 and 128, I probably would still go with 64GB. At least with either of these options the extra $100 in cost to us would be for greater storage increases.

 

[mpayne2k]

I think for Apple to surprise anyone on the next phone / iPad they should drop the 16gb versions, go 32/64/128gb and double the ram and processor speeds, otherwise they're updates will look stale compared to what Samsung, LG and HTC are doing now

 

[cyks]

I know the extra cost for 32GB of flash is nowhere near the $100 Apple makes you think it might be. But even if it's $10 more, that's a lot of lost revenue for Apple on the $199 model for something a lot of people don't need. It would be an extra $10 in cost per phone plus a lot of lost revenue for people like us who would've otherwise spent an extra $100 for it.

It's not $10 more. Sadly, it costs them less than that.

If Apple continues to offer less than their competitors while charging the same (or more), there will likely be lost revenue as people leave... not only in the sale of the iPhone, but from their apps as well (a larger base model would encourage more app sales).

I did see the HTC One listing of $200 for 32GB on Cnet after I posted this, which makes it the first one I have seen. So maybe Apple will do that.

The Nokia Lumia 920 also ships with 32GB (and sells for less than $200 on contract). And, as mentioned, practically every other top phone that ships with 16GB allows memory cards.

 

[Dwalls90]

odd, when i bought my iPhone 4 the top of the line storage was 32GB...8-16-32 models


not that this is proof: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iphone_4


and looking at the bottom of the iPhone 4S page (maybe on teh iP4 page as well) they have a nice chart showing the storage of models and it is steadily increasing.

There never was a $399 64GB model until the 4S, and the 8GB 4 wasn't introduced until 4S was released.

Well, it should be 32/64/128 by now since Samsung has started shipping 128GB chips a good while ago.

However, I'm afraid 16/32/64 will be here for a couple of years, much like drives supplied with laptops topped out at 500GB on average.

It has to do more with component cost, the chips have been around since the 4S and even prior.

 

[pokerplayer73]

Last time Apple bumped up the min storage capacity was for 3GS. 3GS was launched with min 16/32 config

since then, it has been
2009: 3GS - 16/32, 3G - 8
2010: iP4 - 16/32/64, 3GS - 8
2011: iP4s - 16/32/64, iP4 - 8, 3GS - 8
2012: iP5 - 16/32/64, iP4s - 16, iP4 - 8

iP4s is available in 16GB config since iPhone5 launch, which is an anomaly given that the second tier iPhones were historically available in 8GB config.

This gives me a reason to believe that iP5s will launch with 32/64/128 config.

Also, max spec for iPad was recently bumped to 128 GB.

I also believe that the same is going to happen with iPad and iPad Mini in the fall.
iPad 5th Gen - 32/64/128, iPad 4th Gen - 16 GB
iPad Mini Retina - 32/64/128, iPad Mini 1st Gen - 16 GB

 

[617aircav]

Last time Apple bumped up the min storage capacity was for 3GS. 3GS was launched with min 16/32 config

since then, it has been
2009: 3GS - 16/32, 3G - 8
2010: iP4 - 16/32/64, 3GS - 8
2011: iP4s - 16/32/64, iP4 - 8, 3GS - 8
2012: iP5 - 16/32/64, iP4s - 16, iP4 - 8

iP4s is available in 16GB config since iPhone5 launch, which is an anomaly given that the second tier iPhones were historically available in 8GB config.

This gives me a reason to believe that iP5s will launch with 32/64/128 config.

Also, max spec for iPad was recently bumped to 128 GB.

I also believe that the same is going to happen with iPad and iPad Mini in the fall.
iPad 5th Gen - 32/64/128, iPad 4th Gen - 16 GB
iPad Mini Retina - 32/64/128, iPad Mini 1st Gen - 16 GB

Nothing in your post points to 32gb being the entry iPhone model. It'd pure speculation. Apple is not under any kind of pressure to do so, 16gb is a very popular model.

 

[cyks]

Nothing in your post points to 32gb being the entry iPhone model. It'd pure speculation. Apple is not under any kind of pressure to do so, 16gb is a very popular model.

The 8GB iPhone 4 is still extremely popular as well, so Apple is under no pressure to upgrade anything, right?

The 16GB model is popular because it's the cheapest. Nothing more.


While Apple isn't being forced to upgrade the minimum to 32GB, they've been using their current 16/32 for long enough, prices have come down tremendously, and that their competitors are beginning to offer base models at 32GB should all be good reasons.

 

[topper24hours]

With storage being so cheap these days and competitors beginning to offer 32GB standard, I can't imagine not - but I figure I'd ask what you all think.

Umm.. who are these competitors making 32gb standard? There's like 4 out the last 250 Android phones that have 32gb standard. And those would definitely be on the top-tier, most expensive Android phones. Also, typically they are 16gb on board + 16gb(slower/cheaper) sd card memory.

 

[pokerplayer73]

Nothing in your post points to 32gb being the entry iPhone model. It'd pure speculation. Apple is not under any kind of pressure to do so, 16gb is a very popular model.

Not saying Apple is under pressure. YES, It is speculation on my part.

Just noting that, Apple should have released 8GB iPhone4S per their normal precedence of 2nd tier phone storage of 8GB for last 2 cycles. But, that changed.

Apple was under NO PRESSURE to sell iPhone4S with 16GB after iPhone5 launch, but they did. Just extrapolating from that bit of information.

 

[617aircav]

Not saying Apple is under pressure. YES, It is speculation on my part.

Just noting that, Apple should have released 8GB iPhone4S per their normal precedence of 2nd tier phone storage of 8GB for last 2 cycles. But, that changed.

Apple was under NO PRESSURE to sell iPhone4S with 16GB after iPhone5 launch, but they did. Just extrapolating from that bit of information.

Ok. I wish they would make 32gb the entry model with the same price point, I just don't see it happening. Its not normal for a company to cut prices on its hottest selling product. The CEO would be fired.

 

[TacticalDesire]

No, the 4S offered 16/32/64 just like the 4.

I don't see Apple eliminating the 16GB base model.

The 4 didn't have a 64gb option.

 

[CanesDrew]

I don't see that happening. I think a 128GB offering would be on par for Apple's innovation standpoint. I see them keeping the 16/32/64 at their normal price point and adding a 128GB model for $449 or $499.

They'd be the first company to offer 128GB in a phone let alone as physical memory and not as an SD card. That would be awesome. I don't know what the market for that would be though as I don't know of very many people that can fill a 64GB iPhone let alone something bigger.

 

[BJMRamage]

People keep claiming the 16GB is the most popular or the 8gb or 16gb 4/4S phones are popular. This is correct but slightly OFF.

The Cheapest phones are the most popular.

With photo/video MP increasing and HD video offerings and apps that offer “HD/Retina” quality, storage is starting to become tight.
For optimum performance it is best not to get TOO close to the Mac storage.

Apple doesn’t NEED to increase storage without also increasing price. However, if they increase storage and Not Price that will be a BIG bump. And a push for some to upgrade.

 

[cyks]

Ok. I wish they would make 32gb the entry model with the same price point, I just don't see it happening. Its not normal for a company to cut prices on its hottest selling product. The CEO would be fired.

It's no different than the processor, RAM, and screen improvements being made without a price increase.

 

[CanesDrew]

It's no different than the processor, RAM, and screen improvements being made without a price increase.

I agree. Storage is becoming even more cheap nowadays.

 

[daviddth]

Nope, don't see that happening.

Apple would gladly give you a 32GB iPhone 5S if you pay $299.

Only if you also sign up to a rediculously priced plan for as couple of years. If you want Apple to give you a 32GB iPhone with no contract then you have to pay a whole lot more

 

[snowleopard13]

Oh god, i hope they finally do it!

I have 32GB on both my iPad and iPhone and they are always full. And i mean different media on each device... I hate to always pay a premium for the amount of space that should be standard since 2011.