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3d Interfaces for Leopard?

Jarcrew said:
Vista's actually got some stuff I wouldn't mind seeing in Leopard - those video wallpapers? They're classy as hell.
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You can make your screensaver act as a wallpaper. I made a shell script to do that for me. The command to execute the screen saver on the desktop is this:
Code: 
/System/Library/Frameworks/ScreenSaver.framework/Resources/ScreenSaverEngine.app/Contents/MacOS/ScreenSaverEngine -background

Basically, it is the screensaver application, but with the command -background added to make it run as your desktop background.

Just copy and paste it into Terminal, and press enter. Close terminal to stop it.
 
CoreWeb said:
You can make your screensaver act as a wallpaper. I made a shell script to do that for me. The command to execute the screen saver on the desktop is this:
Code: 
/System/Library/Frameworks/ScreenSaver.framework/Resources/ScreenSaverEngine.app/Contents/MacOS/ScreenSaverEngine -background

Basically, it is the screensaver application, but with the command -background added to make it run as your desktop background.

Just copy and paste it into Terminal, and press enter. Close terminal to stop it.
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How much cpu time does this use to just keep the screensaver running? I don't want a cool effect to take slow down my web surfing :D :D
 
johnee said:
How much cpu time does this use to just keep the screensaver running? I don't want a cool effect to take slow down my web surfing :D :D
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It uses surprisingly little CPU for me on my 30" monitor, using the RSS visualizer screensaver. I think it uses more graphics card than anything else, so most CPU-bound processes should run fine (with that screensaver).

I tested Flurry too - same results.
 
CoreWeb said:
It uses surprisingly little CPU for me on my 30" monitor, using the RSS visualizer screensaver. I think it uses more graphics card than anything else, so most CPU-bound processes should run fine (with that screensaver).

I tested Flurry too - same results.
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While I'm sure it has to do with your computer, but I didn't find it quite so insubstantial on my PowerBook G4 1.67GHz. So, I ran some tests. It really depends on what screen saver you use, too.

Under no-load (i.e. a simple picture as the desktop):
No-Load.jpg


Using Flurry for the desktop:
Flurry.jpg


Using iTunes Artwork for the desktop:
iTunes-Artwork.jpg


Using 3D Matrix as the desktop:
3D-Matrix.jpg


And, by far the biggest hog of all, using Gold Fish Aquarium as the desktop:
Gold-Fish.jpg


So, as you can see, even Flurry adds a few bars of processor use on my machine. And Gold Fish, arguably the nicest desktop background option of the lot, maxed out my processor. So, as I said before, it seems like it's a big price to pay for a trivial bit of eye candy.
 
See future of OS X UI

Old news. Just go to YouTube and put "multi touch" into the search. See what Jeff Han was doing last year. For a laugh you might also want to put "zenzui" into the search there as well. Compare the ZenZui UI to Han's version of Multi-Touch. Which would rather use, the fun organic interface or squares and boxes squares and boxes? Can you tell that Microsoft originally developed ZenZui? (ZenZui=Zune, get it? nudge nudge wink wink say no more)
 
Is this OS 11?

On one of the first pages, someone mentioned the 3d interface being more like something we would see in OS 11. This made me think... could Leopard be the codename for OS 11?:confused:
 
surferfromuk said:
Yeah, that would make for an interesting OSX theme - I'm glad you made the connection...It would explain the system wide integration of core animation as the only serious technique available to enable photo realistic monkeys to run loose across the desktop, being chased by mathew broderick in a lab coat and glasses. I can see this helping in all kinds of new and inventive ways : monkeys turning up randomly to fold down menus, jumping up and down in excitment when downloads are finished, running up and grabbing folders and jumping into the Trash Can with them, Mathew using one of those big rope nets instead of lasso'ing multiple files - they could strangely turn into monkeys as they are 'netted', - you know the kind of thing. Maybe they could integrate a 'Planet of the Apes' expansion pack and we could have Charlton Heston ride in and thump the ground whilst berating us all to be 'b*stards'.

I wonder how Steve got it past the board ? :)
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WTF?? ROTFL!! YOU'RE A GENIUS! :D

I'm at work and everyone here saw me laughing at the computer!! damn you!!! :(
 
CoreWeb said:
As for 'kewl', Microsoft seems all about making things that are meant to be 'kewl'. This concept, which is the concept behind Xbox 360's design is, in my opinion, fading in popularity. Microsoft tried to use it in the Zune, and is using it in Aero.
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wasn't the xbox designed by this axis thing
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2002276090_xboxdesign16.html

mild-wild / archidectural- organic

and the xbox right in the middle - Maybe putting things in the middle doesn't make a statement it leads to "we please everybody" design
the same goes with the colour orange- it looks bold in drawing but no one want's it!
 
Maybe its just official drivers for the wii remote?

Maybe,leopard will include 3 themes:
1.Aqua
2/3. New themes like nothing youve seen before
(one default theme,)

Also a panel in system preferences for customization (icons,themes,wallpapers,sound schemes,screensavers)
it would be nice to have an official way to change icons,
and also an easy way to create themes,
This would also have the effect of windows friendly(for bootcamp users,mac noobs) themes being created.

Also compiz or an effect plugin system would be nice.
 
This youtube video really shows some amazing 3D things. From around 5 minutes in you can see 3D menus that are just incredible.
 
psychofreak said:
This youtube video really shows some amazing 3D things. From around 5 minutes in you can see 3D menus that are just incredible.
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doesn't it look a bit like vista's flip3d? you should see part two of that movie. i have a feeling core animation is going to make leopard the prettiest mac os x to date.
 
Sorry, I don't buy it! Leopard will be like Tiger with a new skin (pun intended) and resolution independence. Apple may have some very cool looking extras (that we will all get bored of real soon, just like the coverflow-thing!) but it will not be a 3D GUI... Why would it be? there's no practical benefit...

I hope they allow for easy skinning/theming of your GUI. I'd love to have more Brushed metal (I know, the trend is going the other way, sadly).
 
psychofreak said:
This youtube video really shows some amazing 3D things. From around 5 minutes in you can see 3D menus that are just incredible.
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It's a good video, thanks for the link.

The chance of us seeing those kinds of menus in Leopard is minimal, but the technologies that allow that kind of menu open up a range of possibilities. The key is to keep it easy to use... so lets hope Apple doesn't get caught up with the "coolness" at the expense of the ease of use.

I'd expect to see those technologies heavily integrated with the next AppleTV (and the OS upgrade to the existing AppleTV). The rewrite of Quicktime may also include some of this.. could make for some interesting new ways of presenting video or websites.
 
Well, when you consider even the newest releases of Linux are now starting to come with 3D interfaces, even if technically unnecessary, Apple does need to "keep up with the Joneses" on this one.

I wish Steve Jobs would just bitch-slap Bill Gates and get it over with.
 
MikeTheC said:
Well, when you consider even the newest releases of Linux are now starting to come with 3D interfaces, even if technically unnecessary, Apple does need to "keep up with the Joneses" on this one.

I wish Steve Jobs would just bitch-slap Bill Gates and get it over with.
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Apple doesn't need to compete with Linux for the desktop "ease of use" stakes.

However, it's good to see they've got an underlying technology that is capable of much... so where a new interface idea is a good one, it can be used without a 2nd thought.
 
GregA said:
Apple doesn't need to compete with Linux for the desktop "ease of use" stakes.

However, it's good to see they've got an underlying technology that is capable of much... so where a new interface idea is a good one, it can be used without a 2nd thought.
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well, I thought so too until i read the number, OSX has 4.1% marketshare, and Linux has 3.8%, not that behind....:D
 
clevin said:
well, I thought so too until i read the number, OSX has 4.1% marketshare, and Linux has 3.8%, not that behind....:D
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I thought os-x had over 5% now and how many different versions of linux are there :rolleyes: Personally Linux is far too much hassle for me, I just want my rigs to work without all this compiling lark :D
 
MacVault said:
But, unlike Mac OS X, at least Vista is out :mad:
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But the difference will be that Mac OSX is quality Vista isn't....

If Leopard is released in June (hopefully) it will be released a lot sooner than Vista's inital release date. Vista took ages because it was so buggy, at least Apple takes the time to test and then implement a quality product for the consumer to buy.
 
Evoken said:
And what would be the practical benefit of that? :)


Evo
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well, there isn't any, but everyone's doing it already, so why not have it built-in, instead of using 3rd party tools? (Besides I NEED more brushed metal :D )

A 3D interface IMHO may be counterintuitive though.
 
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