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To be honest I'm not too excited about this. I don't want to relearn using a computer just to use a new operating system, and I definitely don't want to learn something that's completely different from the other OS I use on a daily basis.

On the plus side, this almost obligates them to include some decent GPUs in the MacBooks.

Well, people have migrated from CLI to GUI quite easily. What makes you think that any kind of change in the UI would be difficult to learn?
 
What do you mean, there are still a couple left. :p ;) :)

Apple has said they expect OS X to form the basis of their products for up to 20 years. I don't think they'll wait till 2021 to replace it, but it certainly won't be any time soon. And the replacement will not be called "OS 11" or "OS XI" (it may have the 11.x version number, but that won't be the product name).

At the current rate, maybe:

10.6 (cougar?) - 2009
10.7 (lynx?) - 2011
10.8 (lion?) - 2013
10.9 (puddy tat?) - 2015
11.0 - 2017

(and yes, nerds, of course they could do a 10.10, but you know they won't, so shaddup :rolleyes: )
 
4 words: Coverflow replaces the dock

Remember where you heard it first :p

Interesting.
Apple could really blow us away here, and really redefine the finder and browsing but...
I doubt they will, they are kinda smart and change design stuff very slow.
Hope I am wrong.
I would LOVE to see a massive 3D interface. It's gonna come, Bring it on
 
The Magic Touch

Think of a 3D interface. Think of an iMac whose screen had multitouch, which sat on the desk at a 30 degree angle. Think of tap, drag, pinch...

Think of a line of Apple displays with built in multitouch...
 
I wouldnt worry, I dont think apple is going to completelyreinvent the OS here.

Some pseudo-3D features. that present themselves on the phone and other areas in appleworld, could make it in, and I welcome them! Expose and Dashboard have added some real, new functionality to OSX, Leopard hasnt really demonstrated an equivalent yet

(granted, time machine is a VERY smart idea, but "backing up" will never be "cool")
 
Apple has said they expect OS X to form the basis of their products for up to 20 years. I don't think they'll wait till 2021 to replace it, but it certainly won't be any time soon. And the replacement will not be called "OS 11" or "OS XI" (it may have the 11.x version number, but that won't be the product name).

They'll wait till 2020 and call it Mac OS XX! :D
 
I hope it makes Aero look like a socially challenged teenager from the early 90's.

Aero already looks like an immature... something. Actually, it seems to be Microsoft's philosophy overall; they seem to be into the "yeah, cool dude" style (Try to imagine someone saying it in a somewhat spaced-out and dumb manner). That style is quickly fading, in my opinion - it is too... immature, really.

Apple's style is more of a sophisticated, elegant, grown-up design. It seems more... mature, more proper. This style is in, I think.

I'd say the new UI is a slam dunk. Here's why: The same black (or dark gray) and white color scheme is popping up not only in Leopard builds (ie Time Machine, Quick Look, DVD player), but also in some very prominent Mac software titles (Toast Titanium, some bits of Acrobat, as well as in CS3, and on the lesser side of things, VLC in full screen mode). Unless all of these important software makers are taking a shot in the dark and all just happened to come up with very similar themes, I think this is what we will see in Leopard.

Actually, VLC is open source. Toast is probably copied off of Apple's other programs. But yes, Apple is moving towards an iTunes-y look and feel. But here's what throws me off: the drop-down list box shown on the New York Time's web page on the iPhone is styled differently to any Apple UI style I've ever seen.
 
Apple has said they expect OS X to form the basis of their products for up to 20 years. I don't think they'll wait till 2021 to replace it, but it certainly won't be any time soon. And the replacement will not be called "OS 11" or "OS XI" (it may have the 11.x version number, but that won't be the product name).

At the current rate, maybe:

10.6 (cougar?) - 2009
10.7 (lynx?) - 2011
10.8 (lion?) - 2013
10.9 (puddy tat?) - 2015
11.0 - 2017

(and yes, nerds, of course they could do a 10.10, but you know they won't, so shaddup :rolleyes: )

A cougar is a puma (10.1) and an ocelot is a leopard. It's been discussed before. There aren't enough cats to make it to 10.8 unless you have the domesticated/tabby/puddy/siamese cat. Besides the itty-bitty-putty-tat (aka 10.kitten) is what runs on iphone. :p
 
But 11.0 can't be that far away: we're running out of cat names.

We have had Cheetah, Puma, Jaguar, Tiger and Leopard. Still to be used:

- Lion
- Cougar
- Lynx
- Bobcat
- Sabretooth

If you want some less well-known species:

- Caraca
- Ocelot
- Serval
 
Kiss you battery life good-bye and possibly watch your laptop melt. If this requires some higher graphics processing and possibly more than 32 MB of VRAM (since that is the requirement to use Quartz Extreme), this will become bloatware, especially for laptops. Your laptop's GPU will be churning, turning up the fan, and draining your battery. Enjoy.

If Apple wants to implement 3D elements, they better plan on some good power management and efficient GPU cycles.
 
I can't remember where I read it but, with Leopard, Apple has eliminated (for now) input managers (not 100% sure what that means, See http://www.tuaw.com/2007/03/24/leopard-axing-input-managers/), according to that article items such as unsanity utilities won't work.

Which makes me think that there could be some major change that would eliminate the need for such utilities. With that said I hope the changes will be a good one as I don't know for how long I could go without windowshade.

Eagerly awaiting the outcome...

Roc
 
Think of a 3D interface. Think of an iMac whose screen had multitouch, which sat on the desk at a 30 degree angle. Think of tap, drag, pinch...

Think of a line of Apple displays with built in multitouch...

That seems to be everyone's thinking. Think different. :p
 
the drop-down list box shown on the New York Time's web page on the iPhone is styled differently to any Apple UI style I've ever seen.

Interesting. I just ran through the nytimes quickly but didn't see anything. Do you have a link? Now you have me curious! :p
 
Dose of reality

If there's all sorts of 3D graphics in Leopard, which would be cool, do you think the existing MacBooks with integrated graphics would be able to run them, or run them at an acceptable level?

I'd like to see what that experience is like on existing hardware.
 
Kiss you battery life good-bye and possibly watch your laptop melt. If this requires some higher graphics processing and possibly more than 32 MB of VRAM (since that is the requirement to use Quartz Extreme), this will become bloatware, especially for laptops. Your laptop's GPU will be churning, turning up the fan, and draining your battery. Enjoy.

If Apple wants to implement 3D elements, they better plan on some good power management and efficient GPU cycles.

I'm not so sure... window management on the Mac already uses GPU. Apple will probably step up usage of the GPU in Leopard, but it probably won't make too big of a difference. My prediction is that Apple has a 50% chance of changing the entire look and feel of the OS to the iTunes look and feel (something that, as it is simply vector graphics and bitmaps stored in a single location shouldn't be hard to do... provided there is a new design).

I also predict that Apple may put a lot of subtle Core Animation into Leopard. Something I noticed while watching an Aero interface was that windows, when they were created, seemed to grow out of nowhere. Let's see Apple beat that. With Core Animation, Apple could probably do this in only a few lines of code.

I think Apple may also add animations as windows close or are zoomed. Say, an affect like happens on the dock?

I can't remember where I read it but, with Leopard, Apple has eliminated (for now) input managers (not 100% sure what that means, See http://www.tuaw.com/2007/03/24/leopard-axing-input-managers/), according to that article items such as unsanity utilities won't work.

Which makes me think that there could be some major change that would eliminate the need for such utilities. With that said I hope the changes will be a good one as I don't know for how long I could go without windowshade.

Eagerly awaiting the outcome...

Roc

Well, Apple did supposedly change completely how the UI is skinned. Aqua (blue and graphite) used to be stored somewhere somewhat obscure, but apparently now there is an actual bundle called "Aqua."

And for those who say Apple is going to introduce an Illuminous theme... I personally find it pretty unlikely, though possible. However, if you want to see something somewhat like an illuminous theme, invert your screen by pressing CTL-ALT-CMD-8.
 
Let's all remember that this is "wild speculation" and thus probably better suited to Page 2!

Sounds cool though, hope Apple surprise us with Leopard :)
 

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