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3d Interfaces for Leopard?
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Maybe OS 11 will have some kind of sweet holographic, interactive imagery. Kind of like the chess Data plays in Star Trek TNG
actually, it's going to be an interface in which you get pulled into the computer and strange creatures like spiders and freaky motorcycles try to kill you as you prepare a chart for work.
wait....
If you look closely, you can see why the iPhone is still in testing... the text in the drop-down list looks slightly off... actually, it is touching the left side of the list. Clearly a mistake.
I hope some of those 3D things on my 2D monitor will actually improve usability. So far, existing 3D desktops (Sun/Linux) did not really impress me as something actually helping me work faster.
I would hate if it was mostly just eye candy and the performance hog (see Vista )
I would hate if it was mostly just eye candy
and the performance hog (see Vista )warning this post may contain awesome speculation
just imagine...
comes round to a special event in early may:
stevie j : "so we were going to release 10.5 a little while ago.. but then vista came out, so being nice, we thought we'd wait and give it a chance.. soo you see we had some spare time and so we carried on developing, and im pleased to say we are releasing not OSX10.5, not OSX10.6..thats right shipping today OSX 10.7! Its got an entirely new UI, youll love it..(*clicks his lil controller, to show a video of it in action*) BOOM!"
lol ok so this would never happen but it would be awesome and would sort out the whole "running out of cat names" thing
just imagine...
comes round to a special event in early may:
stevie j : "so we were going to release 10.5 a little while ago.. but then vista came out, so being nice, we thought we'd wait and give it a chance.. soo you see we had some spare time and so we carried on developing, and im pleased to say we are releasing not OSX10.5, not OSX10.6..thats right shipping today OSX 10.7! Its got an entirely new UI, youll love it..(*clicks his lil controller, to show a video of it in action*) BOOM!"
lol ok so this would never happen but it would be awesome and would sort out the whole "running out of cat names" thing
Cheers, for that. That's wicked. I think I'm gonna be pranking every new mac user I know with that one over the coming weeks.
If they do a 3D environment I also hope that they add weight and friction to the items.
On one hand, I agree with you. I'm not to keen on the idea being a replacement for what we have now. On the other hand having it added to the system as something you CAN use, but don't have to could be nice and like expose which took me a few months to really get used to using, it could slowly integrated itself into our daily habits.
Maybe it's just me but I find Coverflow annoying and useless. How is it more helpful or efficient than just a list. It doesn't even look that cool, imo. :/4 words: Coverflow replaces the dock
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Do we know what sort of resources Apple is putting toward non OSX updates? I mean, they must have a team looking way forward as well as a couple other teams working on alternate versions of OSX...
Anyways, my take on this when I read it yesterday was that it could be useful if done correctly, but could really get in the way if done wrong. What I am thinking is that since Finder has sucked since, well, forever, that rather than overhaul the whole UI to include significant depth/Z-axis it will just be in Finder. All folders are smart folders, and you can build groups from different folders, as well as groups that are built automatically. One of the Finder views is a 3D cluster organized by groups, smart folders, etc.
You can move through it, rotate it, zoom in to the point of a full preview of any file, etc. By highlighting an item you can have the cluster reorganized based on association to that item. Clicking on a Word doc would regroup the cluster by keyword association, putting related documents nearby, and clicking on a media file would reorganize by file type and metadata. So, clicking on a Johnny Cash song would shuffle things so all Johnny Cash music is very close, all county music is peripheral, and then music in general near by, but not focused on.
This would let you work in a new way that might be useful, but wouldn't dramatically change the way you have to work. The overall UI is still the same, and you can still work through lists, thumbnails, folders, etc.
Learning is our friend. The only thing that we can count on is that things change. If we don't change, it actually means we're falling behind. Come along for the ride and enjoy it!
forget that go to your local apple store and do it, most of them dont know how to get it bk! lol. or pc world in the uk. pc world employees and macs is funny. theyz so dumb
I think it actullay looks pretty good. I like the orange on black. Like seriously I would keep it that way if all the windows/picture werent inverted. I say go for it Apple.
No. In computer software versioning the . isn't a decimal point, it's just a separator. So, 10.4.9 (the current OS) is major version 10 minor version 1 update 9. You can use any number in each place, so 10.10.10 (major 10, minor, 10, update 10) is perfectly valid. I've seen a few applications that use an additional separator for patches as well, so 10.10.10.10 is doable (major 10, minor 10, update 10, and the 10th patch since the last update). Apple doesn't do that as far as I can tell, though, they just release full updates.
sigh.
no m8, the dot is not a decimal point, it is just a divider
so OS 10.4.9 is revision 9 of the 4th revision of OS 10
think, in maths you cant have two decimal points can you? so its not a decimal point. make sense?
I thought so too. Maybe someone can find a way to invert all pictures? Eh... maybe not. Finder looks like a creepy weirdo though. You can also see a white iPhone. Unfortunately screenshots of it don't work as it is still taking them non-inverted...
10.4 has something like that. (though not quite in 3d...) Press F9 on your keyboard. Or, if it is a MacBook/MacBook Pro, press Fn-F9. That is, in my opinion, significantly more useful than Vista ALT + TAB. The other day I had 15 or so documents I had to copy and paste from (all had a picture in them) it was invaluable.
Sweet! I never knew you could do that! I'm a long time (16+ years) heavy mac user and I still enjoy discovering new things like that! Recently discovered holding down CTL+ Scrolling with the mighty mouse...
As for this thread, I find the most interesting comments to be those relating to how a significant upgrade will affect existing hardware. When I upgraded from Panther to Tiger, my G3 iBook 800Mhz, and PowerBook 1Ghz heated up dramatically, and appeared to lose a little "zip." If upgrading to Leopard similarly challenges my 2Ghz G5 iMac it would be a little frustrating that this, to some extent, would be forcing an upgrade of my hardware too. I also have a 2Ghz Core Duo iMac, and several Core 2 Duo iMacs, so it will be interesting to see how the upgrades compare. Alas, I think my PowerBook will have to remain a Tiger unless I can find some asbestos chaps!
Hopefully it's nothing too over the top, such as Vista's Aero function. It looks cool and whatnot, but after using it for a few minutes I knew I would hate to live with this. The current F9 function to lay out all open windows in a grid pattern is far more useful to me, I can see them all at the same time without having to shuffle through them like cards, and when I put the pointer over each it tells me what app I'm looking at. It's not particularly flashy, but it works oh so well for me.
I'm also hoping that these revisions, as others seem to be fearing, don't end up driving our rev A and B macbooks into obsolescence too quickly. I'd hate to hear my fans going like mad because my CPU is being worked overtime for just browsing through files with a pretty interface. So far Tiger has done none of these things, so I imagine Leopard will be pretty streamlined so that the later generation G4 powerbooks, iBooks and G4-5 Powermacs can use it just fine.
I'm also hoping that these revisions, as others seem to be fearing, don't end up driving our rev A and B macbooks into obsolescence too quickly. I'd hate to hear my fans going like mad because my CPU is being worked overtime for just browsing through files with a pretty interface. So far Tiger has done none of these things, so I imagine Leopard will be pretty streamlined so that the later generation G4 powerbooks, iBooks and G4-5 Powermacs can use it just fine.
A widescreen touchpad sounds cool.
I love two-fingered scrolling on my Macbook Pro, but I realized today that I really want, is for the scrolling to have "inertia" like the iPhone has so the page keeps scrolling a bit after I take my fingers off the pad and I can get it going really fast with a few quick strokes.
Ooooooh, I get it. I thought you meant on the NYTimes website (in safari) on the iPhone page. Now I understand. And yes, I agree, that pull down menu does look very different, much like Quick Look/Time Machines' UI's...
You've probably all seen the videos of the university students and others using their custom touch interfaces to play with Google Earth, photos, and more.
Well this is where I think (and hope) Apple is headed. I'm hoping for a completely touch-centric OS (of course you could still use a mouse). And with this OS, a laptop, that would convert from a regular laptop to a touch screen laptop by way of a twisting screen or something. I bet Apple would come up with a great design for this.
Well this is where I think (and hope) Apple is headed. I'm hoping for a completely touch-centric OS (of course you could still use a mouse). And with this OS, a laptop, that would convert from a regular laptop to a touch screen laptop by way of a twisting screen or something. I bet Apple would come up with a great design for this.