3D Touch Again Rumored to Be Removed From All 2019 iPhones

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    A few months ago, in a research note shared with MacRumors, a team of Barclays analysts "confirmed" that 3D Touch "will be eliminated" in all 2019 iPhones, as they predicted back in August 2018. The analysts gathered this information from Apple suppliers following a recent trip to Asia.

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    The Wall Street Journal floated the same rumor back in January, and now, yet another source suggests 3D Touch is on the chopping block. Namely, Taiwanese supply chain publication DigiTimes today claimed that Apple "may" remove 3D Touch hardware from all 2019 iPhones, citing unnamed industry sources.

    Apple already introduced software changes in iOS 13 and iPadOS that hint at 3D Touch not being supported on new devices.

    Specifically, "Quick Actions" menus that float above app icons on the home screen and "Peek" previews of emails, links, messages, and more are now supported on any iPhone or iPad that can run iOS 13 or iPadOS. These features were previously exclusive to iPhones with pressure-sensitive 3D Touch hardware.

    Both features rely on a long press, aka pressing and holding, meaning this is effectively an expansion of the Haptic Touch functionality that debuted on the iPhone XR last year, although Apple's developer documentation refers to it as the "system-defined touch and hold gesture" on other devices.

    The ability to invoke Quick Actions menus and Peek previews with a long press in iOS 13 likely foreshadows the removal of 3D Touch from 2019 iPhones, as most of 3D Touch's features will be possible without needing pressure-sensitive 3D Touch hardware in 2019 iPhones, reducing production costs for Apple.

    3D Touch is still functional in iOS 13 on existing iPhones that support the feature, and will likely continue to be in future software updates. This includes the iPhone 6s through iPhone XS Max, excluding the iPhone SE.

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  2. vnrwka macrumors member

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    how does the new haptic long-press feature differentiate from the long-press wiggle mode(positioning icons)???
     
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    I'll tell you how. It's by waiting even LONGER for the icons to wiggle. It's happening right now on my iPhone X on iOS 13 Public Beta. It's so annoying. Haptic touch is not NEARLY as convenient as 3D touch, and that's coming from someone who doesn't use 3D touch except a few times a day (not much).
     
  5. Jhawkfan macrumors newbie

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    I love 3D Touch and HATE the new haptic touch on the iOS 13 beta. It doesn’t work very well on the home screen since you use the same process to make icons wiggle.
     
  6. calaverasgrande macrumors 65816

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    3D touch and the haptic 'phantom click' on MacBooks are impediments to a smooth user experience IMHO.
    I shouldn't have to relearn how to use a device I've already been using for over 10 years for such a minor 'feature' enhancement. This is much of the problem with Apple these days. Creating useless new features to justify their job titles and compensation. Yet ignoring long standing bugs and glitches in their OSes, platforms and software.
     
  7. alpi123 macrumors 6502a

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    Actually almost everyone?

    I wonder if they're making a new tech to replace it - something better.
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    For the time I had iOS 13 beta I never could actually get the icons to haptic touch. When I long press they always go into the wiggle mode to uninstall or reposition. Supposedly, you need to hold on them just enough so that they don't go into that mode and release to get the haptic press? Idk, it's so confusing and 3D touch made it so simpler.
     
  8. colocolo macrumors 6502

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    It also excludes the iPhone XR I believe.
     
  9. GaryMumford macrumors 6502

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    Nope. I like it too
     
  10. DVNIEL macrumors 6502a

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    From trying out iOS 13, I really hope they don't require folks who have 3D Touch still do the long press. It was rather disappointing that I couldn't use 3D touch to get quick actions on the home screen, rather had to do the long press.
     
  11. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    It’s not a matter of whose who ‘like’ 3D Touch, I’d say it’s more of a matter of those who actually know how to utilize 3D Touch to fully appreciate it. That’s the difference.

    3D Touch is a great feature, but there are those who don’t know how to invoke its actions and what it actually does. Apple failed to market 3D Touch properly aside from the keynote when it launched with the 6S.

    For those who actually appreciate and understand 3D Touch, realize how much of a benefit it is to shortcut applications and of course use peak/pop for notifications, etc.
     
  12. TonyC28 macrumors 65816

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    So is it a long press, icons wiggle, keep pressing, then the menu pops up?
     
  13. BoricuaHec01 macrumors 6502a

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    I never used 3D Touch in my life so I won't miss it.
     
  14. twocents macrumors regular

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    Sad to see that they could be backtracking on another of the tentpole features of an "S" model iPhone. But while Touch ID in the iPhone 5S was replaced by Face ID, Haptic Touch definitely doesn't replace 3D Touch. It makes sense on the iPad since they'd have to jam pack it full of Taptic engines, but for iPhones...
     
  15. pumpkinwhite macrumors member

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    Apple should lock wiggle to reposition / delete apps inside a settings menu. How often does one need to move or delete apps. But it's too easy to mistakenly have apps wiggling. It's quite irritating. Too easy for a child to mistakenly deleted an app.
     
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    Unlike a number of gestures on my iPhone 7, 3D Touch has always worked perfectly.

    Granted they could have implemented it within way more apps, like the Camera app would have been a perfect place for it. There should have also been some gesture to "un-pop" things rather than having to use a back button or closing the current screen.

    I find it very tactfully satisfying and will sometimes find myself using it mindlessly the way I click a pen.
     
  17. Romeo_Nightfall macrumors 6502

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    That happens if You keep feature away from ALL your customers to differentiate your product.
    Hollywood is such an I.... kill every innovation with his greed!
     
  18. DakotaGuy macrumors 68040

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    From a corporate profit standpoint it makes sense to remove it. It’s a little known feature that will not impact sales one way or the other. Removal can save a few bucks per unit which will help Apple increase margin. Tim “Money Bags” Cook is the man behind this move if it happens.
     
  19. JessWinter macrumors member

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    Quite the opposite! Long press, let go (and pray you timed it right), then the menu pops up. OR you can just keep holding even longer and eventually they wiggle. It's honestly one of the most confusing and ****** things Apple has done to iOS in a while...
     
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    i love it. i'm holding to my xs until at least 2020 if they, in fact, remove it. i'm so used to it, i really don't want to give it up...
     
  21. B4U macrumors 68020

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    That does not sound good to a UI experience.:(
     
  22. Jimmy Bubbles macrumors 6502

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    You aren't. I do, too. I already miss it in iOS 13 Beta. I was able to push, slide my finger down, and open right into an option without having to do multiple taps.
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    it isn't. it's a terrible UI experience. Especially once you've gotten used to 3D Touch.
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    Well, don't upgrade to iOS 13 then. It's gone there, FYI.
     
  23. JPack macrumors 601

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    Haptic Touch likely provides 80% of the user experience at 20% of the cost. It's a classic Tim Cook move.

    At this point, the removal of 3D Touch can be counted as a certainty. Kuo has talked about this since April 2018 and there's absolutely no difference of opinion from other analysts.
     
  24. alexandr macrumors 6502a

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    so much good news today and then this again...
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    damn it, i thought they weren't going to kill it via software. that's just nasty. are we sure that it's not coming back in a later beta?
     
  25. Digger148 macrumors regular

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    An avid user of 3D Touch, I've found the Haptic Touch replacement quite good once I stopped "pressing" the display. Just touch and when you feel the haptic feedback just release to get the Quick Actions menus. It's pretty quick and it's easier than 3D Touch. Touch and continue to hold after the haptic feedback to get the "wiggles".

    Easily learned, though, App Switching is still 3D Touch.
     

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