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I love 3D Touch and use it every time I use my phone. I was skeptical when they announce the iPhone XR wouldn’t have 3D Touch and swore I wouldn’t buy an iPhone without it. After using ios13 for the last few weeks it honestly wouldn’t bother me if they abandoned it now, the fake software 3D Touch is absolutely fine when you get used to it.
 
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What bothers me the most about the new long press is that I have to really focus on when I need to release or else it goes into "wiggle mode" on the home screen. This behavior is what I have seen on the iPadOS beta. With 3D touch I just push hard on the screen and menus appear. I use it all the time, especially when I get in a car and want to use my AirPods to make a phone call.

Even more troublesome, I understand that those of us with phones that have 3D Touch already are going to lose it for long press when we update to iOS13? Ridiculous.

At least it will make future phones less expensive to produce when Apple removes that technology from the screen. I'm sure Apple will pass that saving on to the consumer...
 
3D touch and the haptic 'phantom click' on MacBooks are impediments to a smooth user experience IMHO.
I shouldn't have to relearn how to use a device I've already been using for over 10 years for such a minor 'feature' enhancement. This is much of the problem with Apple these days. Creating useless new features to justify their job titles and compensation. Yet ignoring long standing bugs and glitches in their OSes, platforms and software.
I love it :p:D
 
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An avid user of 3D Touch, I've found the Haptic Touch replacement quite good once I stopped "pressing" the display. Just touch and when you feel the haptic feedback just release to get the Quick Actions menus. It's pretty quick and it's easier than 3D Touch. Touch and continue to hold after the haptic feedback to get the "wiggles".

Easily learned, though, App Switching is still 3D Touch.

Begrudgingly, I'm coming around to the same conclusion.

I have Xs Max though, so hopefully 3D Touch will still be enabled.
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I love 3D Touch and use it every time I use my phone. I was skeptical when they announce the iPhone XR wouldn’t have 3D Touch and swore I wouldn’t buy an iPhone without it. After using ios13 for the last few weeks it honestly wouldn’t bother me if they abandoned it now, the fake software 3D Touch is absolutely fine when you get used to it.

Coming to the same conclusion.
 
3D touch and the haptic 'phantom click' on MacBooks are impediments to a smooth user experience IMHO.
I shouldn't have to relearn how to use a device I've already been using for over 10 years for such a minor 'feature' enhancement. This is much of the problem with Apple these days. Creating useless new features to justify their job titles and compensation. Yet ignoring long standing bugs and glitches in their OSes, platforms and software.

Solutions in search of a problem...
 
I’m purposely hanging onto my 8+ for Touch ID & 3D Touch. G/f has Xr and it’s not as nice in these regards imo. Tangent: anyone having issues with the camera app freezing? The stock iOS app and camera+ app both lock up my phone. DFU’d it 2x in the last 9 months :(
 
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What bothers me the most about the new long press is that I have to really focus on when I need to release or else it goes into "wiggle mode" on the home screen. This behavior is what I have seen on the iPadOS beta. With 3D touch I just push hard on the screen and menus appear. I use it all the time, especially when I get in a car and want to use my AirPods to make a phone call.

Even more troublesome, I understand that those of us with phones that have 3D Touch already are going to lose it for long press when we update to iOS13? Ridiculous.

At least it will make future phones less expensive to produce when Apple removes that technology from the screen. I'm sure Apple will pass that saving on to the consumer...

From what I've heard, iphones that have 3D touch will keep the feature. If they don't, that would be so bs.
 
3D touch and the haptic 'phantom click' on MacBooks are impediments to a smooth user experience IMHO.
I shouldn't have to relearn how to use a device I've already been using for over 10 years for such a minor 'feature' enhancement. This is much of the problem with Apple these days. Creating useless new features to justify their job titles and compensation. Yet ignoring long standing bugs and glitches in their OSes, platforms and software.

How is haptic click on a MacBook “relearning anything”? And even on a phone, so you press harder - what’s the big deal? They are not asking you to control the device with your mind or anything.
 
Haptic Touch likely provides 80% of the user experience at 20% of the cost. It's a classic Tim Cook move.
Totally. I would consider that a compliment to Tim Cook, though I'm not sure if you meant it that way. It reminds me of the auto-inject floppy drives that were in Macintosh computers ... and how they were discarded first by Apple. I can't remember if/when they removed that feature from the beige boxes, but I remember when they pulled the floppy drive altogether.

from Wikipedia: Besides Sony, Apple was the first major manufacturer to start selling computers with 3 1⁄2-inch disk drives as well as the first to stop shipping them in 1998 with the introduction of the iMac.
 
Totally. I would consider that a compliment to Tim Cook, though I'm not sure if you meant it that way. It reminds me of the auto-inject floppy drives that were in Macintosh computers ... and how they were discarded first by Apple. I can't remember if/when they removed that feature from the beige boxes, but I remember when they pulled the floppy drive altogether.

from Wikipedia: Besides Sony, Apple was the first major manufacturer to start selling computers with 3 1⁄2-inch disk drives as well as the first to stop shipping them in 1998 with the introduction of the iMac.

It's a pragmatic move that I think most people would agree with.

Similar to bringing assembly of the 2019 Mac Pro back to China. Assembling the 2013 Mac Pro in the U.S. had few benefits but incurred a high cost. Or the iPhone XR port alignment question. Apple could probably horizontally align the Lightning port but double the development cost.
 
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Made this prediction in 2018. Next predictions are retroinduction of Touch ID and removal of notch.
 
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I never used 3D Touch in my life so I won't miss it.
That is a shame. The 3D Touch on a app to view shortcuts and the widget at a glance was great. Not to mention the notification expansion was handy. Maybe I’ll keep my XS on iOS 12 and since my iPP 12.9 2nd gen doesn’t have 3D Touch I’ll update it to iPadOS.
 
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The problem with 3D Touch is there has never been a compelling, unique use case for it. Quick Actions are fine but just expose existing functionality more quickly rather than adding new functionality, and it's not clear to me that there's anything 3D Touch can do that a long press couldn't do. Classic "solution in search of a problem".
Long press takes longer. 3D Touch is more fluid.
 
i love it. i'm holding to my xs until at least 2020 if they, in fact, remove it. i'm so used to it, i really don't want to give it up...
I'm afraid to tell you that on IOS 13, 3-D touch is disabled and reduced to haptic touch feedback. This is on a XS Max.
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What bothers me the most about the new long press is that I have to really focus on when I need to release or else it goes into "wiggle mode" on the home screen. This behavior is what I have seen on the iPadOS beta. With 3D touch I just push hard on the screen and menus appear. I use it all the time, especially when I get in a car and want to use my AirPods to make a phone call.

Even more troublesome, I understand that those of us with phones that have 3D Touch already are going to lose it for long press when we update to iOS13? Ridiculous.

At least it will make future phones less expensive to produce when Apple removes that technology from the screen. I'm sure Apple will pass that saving on to the consumer...
And I'm sure they will pass on those savings to the consumer. /s
 
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