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so lets se there is one tuesday per week, and 52 weeks in 2008 that means we have 52 chances to get excited and dissapointed. so whos ready to start guessing?!

Actually, there are 53 Tuesdays in 2008. And we can be pretty sure they won't announce on Jan. 1st or Nov. 4th, and one of the Tuesdays will actually be the BIG DAY, so that's only 50 chances to be disappointed!
 
3G is pointless, unless you are downloading 20 meg attachments (which I can guarantee you are not on your iPhone). EDGE is fast enough.

It certainly isn't pointless, for one thing you can be on a call and be looking up stuff in Safari, which you can't at the moment. Now whilst it's debateable whether you'll notice an overall improvement browsing web pages with a lot of small files ie. images ie. your point about a 20MB file has merit. Things like Youtube become much more pleasant.

M.
 
I dont know what the big deal for 3g is.

I live in Miami, FL and i get 3g i use it on my lenovo thinkpad.
But edge is perfect for email, weather,google maps, stocks for the on the go devices

Why do people want 3g? Will you be able to download stuff into your iphone? i know the benefit is 600kbps+
but is it really needed? Faster internet browsing?
malls,cafes and anywhere you can think off have a hotspot network oepn.

Do people walk and drive and browse at the same time that they need 3g broadband at all times?
 
I do think we will see an iPhone with HSDPA 3G support by June 2008 at latest. The reason is simple: it will be very useful in Europe and Japan, where HSPDA broadband access are fairly common.
 
Maybe this will be enabled in first gen iphones....like the $1.99 802.11n enabler? Here's one iPhone owner hoping ha. On another note, anyone think this will cause an uproar a la the $200 price drop? Don't get me wrong, I love my iPhone, but apple can't expect people to upgrade their $600 dollar device yearly. I'm gonna say this is a little misinformed corporate slip up...

There can be no software enabler for 3g. With the 802.11n, the hardware was there already and the software activated it. There is no 3G hardware in the current iphone and all the software in the world can't make it so.
 
I do think we will see an iPhone with HSDPA 3G support by June 2008 at latest. The reason is simple: it will be very useful in Europe and Japan, where HSPDA broadband access are fairly common.

I would agree, that is about 1 year out from the release of the phone. That broadcom article a few months back about more efficient 3G chips will probably help the battery situation in the iphone. Lets face it, the battery in it now is satisfactory at best, especially in a phone where it cant be easily switched.
 
I'm on this like white on rice. I love my 16gb iPod touch; the only thing better would be to stick a phone in there too and allow me to browse anywhere.

Magical. Can't wait.
 
3G is pointless, unless you are downloading 20 meg attachments (which I can guarantee you are not on your iPhone). EDGE is fast enough.

"640k is enough" ;)

that said many people around here use 3G already for mobile internet (very useful for students) so it would make sense to use the phone as a modem .. oh wait we are talking about the iphone here ...


and free to use open wireless networks aren't that common around here neither in malls or cafés
 
Requirement for Japan

The Japan market is huge. People are married to their phones here.

It's a requirement for the Japan release. The W-CDMA in Japan is not compatible with other network, however the 3G offered by SoftBank and others is compatible with the US 3G system and is what most people are migrating to in Japan.

Besides they have already committed to an "early next year" release for the iPhone in Japan.

Just give it more memory and unlock it. I'll gladly ditch my mobile phone, iPod and PDA for an iPhone.
 
This should come as no surprise, as apple has indicated that a 3G is in the works.

For me, it matters not. I live in a rural area which won't see 3G for many years. EDGE reception, however, is quite good and very useful. True, I prefer to use Safari with Wifi over EDGE, but Google Maps, Weather, Mail, etc all work pretty darn well with EDGE.

I realize that the majority of the US population lives near or in our 50-100 or so major metropolitan areas, but for those of us in more rural areas, this is a non-issue. Look at the coverage maps for your area... can you use 3G?

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/

I'm guessing most of you can, but certainly not everyone.

I'm far more interested in apple bringing out another iPhone product (nano-type) than an upgrade to the existing iPhone.

I would take ANY kind of coverage! EDGE, 3G, or two iphones with string connecting them! I have NO cellphone coverage at all where I live. Be happy you have an iPhone that works with EDGE or any other coverage!

Does Apple EVER do ANYTHING RIGHT? According to most here...NOT!
 
finaly a new iphone i have the current model but it really laks when you look at the internet speed:S

i hope it will also be possible to break the simlock in the new model:)
 
oh yeah

this is what i'm waiting for. 2nd gen iphone with 3g is all it will take for me to slap down the few c-notes and join the iphone wave. please please please be announced at macworld 08 to be ready to ship that day or soon thereafter . . . yeah right . . . just chompin at the bit for an iphone. common, make haste, apple!!!

:apple::D:apple:
 
This is good to know (if a bit obvious), though I'd imagine Jobs would rather the announcement be made closer to the actual ship date. At this point, many prospective iPhone customers will wait for the 3G version, effectively freezing iPhone sales for an undetermined period into the future.
If I had to venture a guess, our friendly Mr. Randall Stephenson from AT&T will be getting a truckload of coal dumped in his christmas stocking this year.. compliments of Steve-O. ;)

I would imagine they would have an agreement when it came to announcing new iPhones. To me this speaks to an iPhone in early 2008 as you pointed out it would be crazy to say this and release it in October.

EDGE and 3G or just 3G?
 
so lets se there is one tuesday per week, and 52 weeks in 2008 that means we have 52 chances to get excited and dissapointed. so whos ready to start guessing?!

I'll take October 1, 2008 - November 22, 2008 for release of lets just call it

2nd Generation iPhone, to include GPS, 3G, 16 Gig memory, & Bigger battery :D

Imagine piggy backing off of Verizon's and T-Mobile's and AT&T's towers when everything is GSM ?

Than again reality just hit me and AT&T cant even get there 3G up through out the US, what was I thinking.
 
The Japan market is huge. People are married to their phones here.

It's a requirement for the Japan release. The W-CDMA in Japan is not compatible with other network, however the 3G offered by SoftBank and others is compatible with the US 3G system and is what most people are migrating to in Japan.

UMTS is based on W-CDMA

it's very likely just different protocols
 
3G, 16 GB of storage (or maybe 32 will be doable when it's released), possibly GPS?, better camera, 3rd party apps at this point.

iPhone 2.0 is looking to be a freakin' beast.
 
I believe it when i see it [regarding the Verizon 4G switch].


I am surprised however that when i checked the coverage map for 3G, i actually do have it. Thats some what surprising since i live in the country.
 
Reading some of these comments make me realize why Apple is so secretive of future products. Already we have had several people swear off iPhone buying till the next generation comes. Can't imagine that Steve is very happy at this moment.

As far as 3G goes. Meh. I would rather have GPS and more storage space. 3 G is far from ubiquitous here in the states and certainly not around where i live. It would be nice i gues, just make sure it doesn't affect battery life.
 
A 3G iphone with decent battery life and that I can bluetooth-tether to my MBP for a 3G internet connection using my AT&T unlimited data plan? I'm sold. See you later $59.99 Verizon EV-DO plan.
 
I hope this doesn't happen. I never plan on getting an iPhone or anything, but I do find the "What no 3G support?" posts endlessly amusing.
 
I really want an iPhone now(!!), but I'll have to pinch myself or something if I try to buy one before this one comes out. I've had 3G on my last two phones (Samsungs) and I'm gonna hold out for an iPhone with one.
 
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