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3G iPhone Due in 2008
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Oi, I was merging my posts via edit for everything else, though for these two posts, it was a simple mistake. Because there is no option to delete the post, I just left it there than have a post saying "nm, delete this".
Edge is networking and just like wired networking all of the above are possibilities when it comes to performance slow downs. That is your connection may be to a tower with a heavy load of data traffic, it might have older radio and router hardware, a connection to the net might be slow, and other normal networking issues. That doesn't even take into consideration the RF issues. Here your distance does make a difference, the type and age of the tower radio makes a difference, local noise and interference makes a difference. Basically every ting that ever impacted radio communications impacts cell networking.
This is one reason I'm not all that excited about 3G vs Edge. Sure the speed is better at times but you still have to be able to actually get a connection. Even if you are able to establish a connection you need to have one of high enough quality to enable the fastest rates. I just don't see 3G as something to get all worked up about, it still won't come close to a good WiFi connection.
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This can't be repeated enough: the impression you get from these forums is nothing like what the consumer market out there thinks.
When Apple announced they would switch to Intel CPUs, guess what the forums were full of? "You'd have to be crazy to buy a PPC machine now! They won't sell a single one until next year!"
And guess what happened? Apple sold more PPC machines than ever before.
The typical consumer doesn't read these forums, doesn't read ANY rumor forums, doesn't know, and doesn't care. You realize you can go out and sell a three-year old G4 PowerBook for $1,000 to a very happy buyer today, right?
This PC-like obsession with the latest bullet points is really juvenile.
There will most likely be two models. The 3G will probably have a slightly larger form factor and increased price tag.
In order for the iPhone to have any chance of success in some European countries, it actually needs to have 3G data. In the Netherlands, for example, EDGE doesn't exist anymore. So, it's either a 3G good experience, or crawling along at GPRS. Now you know why I haven't given a second thought to an unlocked European iPhone (courtesy of France or Germany) - well, that and the fact that they are very pricey.
More megapixels does not a better camera make. Flash, a better sensor and optical zoom, on the other hand, would qualify the iPhone as a reasonable "point-and-shoot" replacement - at least for simple, day-to-day snapshots of friends. Not to mention video.
More storage space is far from a bad thing. 16GB is a pretty sweet spot - more so than 8GB.
More megapixels does not a better camera make. Flash, a better sensor and optical zoom, on the other hand, would qualify the iPhone as a reasonable "point-and-shoot" replacement - at least for simple, day-to-day snapshots of friends. Not to mention video.
More storage space is far from a bad thing. 16GB is a pretty sweet spot - more so than 8GB.
Check out the 3g coverage map for Denver- http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/
Denver is now 3g- guess as of last week.
This sux, my iphone is freakin awesome but announcements like this only make me want the next gen even more. As far as "you dont need 3g"- we are only at the beginning stages of the iphone and what it can do. Give it a year and there will be some amazing apps out that will make u want all the kbps' you can get (think when soemone ring your door bell a video feed of them pops up on your phone!)
Anyways I read somewhere Apple announced 3g 2ndGen iPhone in the FIRST Q of 2008, is that BS? And do you thing they will just add 3g to the same design, or can we hope for a true 2nd gen rework?
In europe this is a more critical feature, though the iPhone initally was launched as a US product, where AT&T 3g coverage is only around certain areas. In the DC area, 3g coverage only goes so far out, so if your in a neighboring county, no 3g for you....
To the people waiting for the 3G phones (or other capability)...
If you always wait for the next greatest thing, you would never buy anything. If you always want the latest and greatest then I hope you have a big pay check and a nice wife (or husband) that doesn't mind you spending many hundreds every other month on gadgets. The next iPhone will come out with 16GB. People will bitch and moan that it doesn't have 32GB. Then the next one will come out at 32GB and people will bitch because it doesn't cure cancer. Get used to it.
If you want to wait on buying a phone because of 3Gish capability, wait for the 700MHz to come across. I was working on a project with a company where we were getting 1.5megs throughout our municipality to the end user. It was a proof of concept on what you can do with this 700. That's probably 3-4 years out and will only get better My point is, do you want to wait for that too?
If you always wait for the next greatest thing, you would never buy anything. If you always want the latest and greatest then I hope you have a big pay check and a nice wife (or husband) that doesn't mind you spending many hundreds every other month on gadgets. The next iPhone will come out with 16GB. People will bitch and moan that it doesn't have 32GB. Then the next one will come out at 32GB and people will bitch because it doesn't cure cancer. Get used to it.
If you want to wait on buying a phone because of 3Gish capability, wait for the 700MHz to come across. I was working on a project with a company where we were getting 1.5megs throughout our municipality to the end user. It was a proof of concept on what you can do with this 700. That's probably 3-4 years out and will only get better My point is, do you want to wait for that too?
Now I just need T-Mobile to switch on their 3G and then you might see me replace me SE 800i with an iPhone next year...
I don't have to wait, we already have HSPDA. 3G would be a step back. I wanted to add: with nation-wide coverage but in a country the size of a stamp that doesn't mean much
For those of us living in Europe, this lack of 3G chip is a deal-breaker for many. Apple has to upgrade its offering, it's not a question of waiting for the latest. It's a must.
I am guessing this 3G iPhone will look just the same as the current iPhone and contain the same features. If anything other than 3G is different I am guessing it will be storage. I see it being released between June and November of 2008, if this is actually true.
Though there is the inital factor that the iPhone was released initially in the US for a US carrier (AT&T). There is the possibility that 3g capability (besides the batter life issue) was a forethought from the lack of real coverage in the US (especially in Virginia
).
next greatest thing ? 3G is more in the "cutting edge.. in 2004" category
for a company who likes to boast about being 2 generations ahead that's quite some time behind (just like with MMS or video recording
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next greatest thing ? 3G is more in the "cutting edge.. in 2004" category
for a company who likes to boast about being 2 generations ahead that's quite some time behind (just like with MMS or video recording
That may be true in Europe, but the US is behind the times, just trying to catch up with the rest of the world. There is more land in the US than Europe, making it a tougher situation to upgrade the network to 3G
Actually, Denver DOES have a 3G AT&T network up and running very well.
It's just not public yet.
Slated for spring '08 launch.
I know a tech that works for AT&T here who also says the 3G iPhone will launch then as well.
who in the UK apart from the apalling '3' have got a 3G network up and running and in a decent state? Thanks Steve, but ram it. TBQFH.
Actually, Denver DOES have a 3G AT&T network up and running very well.
It's just not public yet.
Slated for spring '08 launch.
I know a tech that works for AT&T here who also says the 3G iPhone will launch then as well.
I just checked my area in Los Angeles.
On launch there was NO 3G in my area (a nice and $$ area too.)
Now we are drenched in it.
What a diff a few months make. Looks like I will be upgraded my iphone for sure now.
I'd like to loose the scratch prone chrome ring in favor of the black bevel, like that of the Touch.
Also, make the back plate not as slick. Maybe some sort of thin, hard, rubberized compound - not unlike the skin of the black MacBooks.
Otherwise, pretty solid design.