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Does anybody else worry that this rapid product introduction cycle will eventually result in far too complex product lineup where it becomes too difficult to distinguish between value added by moving between products? This product sounds great, but what added benefit will it give us that a software update to the iPod Touch / iPhone wouldn't give us?

It just seems like Apple's crowding it's "message" of simplicity by introducing too many specialized products when they could simply continually improve their current offerings.
"rapid product introduction cycle" ... you mean the one brand new, all original, non-updated product introduced since the iPhone?

"too complex product lineup" ... you mean the three selections available for notebooks, the three selections available for desktops, the four selections available for iPods, and the one phone product?

"simply continually improve their current offerings" ... you mean with software updates, like the upcoming iPhone 2.0, the Leopard update which is being seeded, the new AppleTV firmware, and hardware updates, the recently updated iMacs (at least I think it was iMacs, I may be wrong), the Time Capsule

I can see your point, Apple should slow down, before they get in over their head.
 
Why is this 3G thing such a big deal?

The same reason everyone thinks the MacBook Pro updates to the new processor was such a big deal.

Because it's a new model and 3G allows for better internet/data experience.

Not to mention the fact that it will open the iPhone market to counties like South Korea which are pretty much 3G-only.

This will also likely force wider 3G coverage in the US.

The split second the 3G iPhone comes out, it's mine, since I'm off to Seoul in August.
 
2. A new product WILL be introduced at WWDC much bigger than the iPhone with a 13 inch screen known and it will be know as the Macbook Touch:
There's way too much going against that -

MacBook 'Touch' would not work without a stylus - and that's not really touch anymore. Leopard is not made for fingers.

Or are you saying they'll release ANOTHER unique interface to OS X and branch it a third way? Or will all OS X releases get CocoaTouch frameworks added? Either way: iPhone OS does not scale up to a 13" screen and Leopard's interface is not multitouch.

Apple will maintain a lineup with capacitance AND pressure-sensitive touchscreens? Support the whole concept of intelligent finger gestures only on their multi-touch devices, trackpads but not with the full-size tablet?
 
One other thing...

I was just thinking... if they plan on making WWDC about the new iPhone and all it can do, wouldn't they pretty much HAVE TO at least announce it ahead of time so they could update the SDK with new hardware capabilities (GPS, conference camera, etc.) in order for developers to take advantage of them ahead of the keynote?

My bet is still on an early announcement with post WWDC release.
 
Does anybody else worry that this rapid product introduction cycle will eventually result in far too complex product lineup where it becomes too difficult to distinguish between value added by moving between products? This product sounds great, but what added benefit will it give us that a software update to the iPod Touch / iPhone wouldn't give us?

It just seems like Apple's crowding it's "message" of simplicity by introducing too many specialized products when they could simply continually improve their current offerings.

I totally agree!;)
 
I thought this was a rumor forum and not a delusion forum.

It's like a bunch of babies on Christmas eve wondering what Santa will bring them.

Maybe if your all real, real good Steve will make you a sweat little tablet.

OMG!!! Yippi!!!!!!


grow up. :D
 
after thinking about this I can say with 99% confidence this is not going to be how things go down and there will be no tablet at WWDC.

Of course, I also said there was no way Apple would call it the Macbook Air.:D

Yeah, I'm with you. I thought people sounded ridiculous for believing that there would be a product called MacBook Air.
 
There's way too much going against that -

MacBook 'Touch' would not work without a stylus - and that's not really touch anymore. Leopard is not made for fingers.

Or are you saying they'll release ANOTHER unique interface to OS X and branch it a third way? Or will all OS X releases get CocoaTouch frameworks added? Either way: iPhone OS does not scale up to a 13" screen and Leopard's interface is not multitouch.

Apple will maintain a lineup with capacitance AND pressure-sensitive touchscreens? Support the whole concept of intelligent finger gestures only on their multi-touch devices, trackpads but not with the full-size tablet?

You are so completely wrong on this. Leopard (which is what iPhone is running) DOES support multitouch. In case you missed it, the latest Macbooks now have multitouch trackpads to slowly ease people into the feel of multitouch on a Macbook. Transfering those gestures from trackpad to screen is not that big of a leap (it's all already built into Leopard which you would have known if you did your research.) And still no stylus needed...
 
iPhone Pro is comming!!
If AT&T is blocking out June 15 - July 12.. that wouldn't be because of an 'safari pad'.. this device MUST have phone capabilities.

Bring it on Steve! i would be glad to be one of the early adopters :)
 
iPhone Pro is comming!!
If AT&T is blocking out June 15 - July 12.. that wouldn't be because of an 'safari pad'.. this device MUST have phone capabilities.

Bring it on Steve! i would be glad to be one of the early adopters :)
 
This makes me mad. If this is true that is. I like to be the fist to get products but i don't want to by a 3G iPhone and than have a macPod type of thing come out in june that could do the same thing but better.

Oh yeah what if it is the other way around. What if they release the macPod thing now and the 3G iPhone in june.
 
Why? People thought that you couldn't have a touchscreen PDA without a stylus.

I'm not using a stylus for an on-screen keyboard. I'll use all ten of my fingers, thank you.

Also, no MacTablet for a few years.

I meant that to come across as: MacBook Touch is not going to happen without additional iteration of OS X.

...which, in the scope of all rumors and given their current product aesthetic, is probably more likely than a return of pressure-sensitivity.
 
My plan is to not upgrade my iphone as it's fine the way it is.

Having said that, The day the 3G comes out I will most likely, and eerily, find myself standing in line at an ATT store wondering how I got there.

Frightening.
 
But let's all think this one out. When Apple suddenly dropped the price on the iPhone way back in September, utter outrage ensued. How do you think customers who would buy the iPhone, let's say, a week prior to the announcement of the newer model feel? Not so good, right? So isn't it possible that apple learned a lesson and has decided to cut-off the sale date of the old model at around 30 days prior to the release of the new model? Now this isn't necessarily apple being outrageously kind; isn't their a 30 day return policy on those iPhones?? It all seems to match-up to me...

A $200 price drop two months after release is a slightly different situation. If that situation had set a new tone for Apple then we would've seen things go "unavailable" in advance of a refresh already -- MacBooks, MBPs, iMacs, etc., stuff more expensive than the iPhone. And they have never done this for any of the older iPods, and didn't do it when they introduced the 16GB iPhone in February (which wasn't that long ago!).
 
As someone else pointed out (sorry forgotten where I read it) if they made it possible to pre-order a 3g iPhone to be delivered on or around WWDC then this would soften the lost revenue between now and WWDC.
Just an opinion.

Neil.

Preorders usually aren't charged until the product actually ships. And the biggest problem is what about people who need to get a phone now and can't wait a month or more? Apple would lose those sales to someone else.

Ugh, I highly doubt this - if it IS a tablet or other non-notebook device, it will further disillusion Apple's customer base as to what product to purchase. If anything, hopefully it's the new MBP.

So more choices will confuse buyers so much they won't buy anything (or will buy non-apple)? Sorry, I just don't buy that.

Seriously?

MBA?

Seriously. The MBA is a great addition to the line, but there are portables even smaller, with 8-10 inch screens. A tablet would be cool, but in that range of size most users would really want a keyboard.

It's called the MacBook Air. Perhaps you've heard of it.

"But it's not an UMPC!!!"

Too bad, that's what you're getting. anything "new" at WWDC will be the long-awaited, never-going-to-happen MacTablet.

It's funny to hear people saying an ULTRA portable is unrealistic but a tablet is. I think if they do a tablet, it would make sense to either include a keyboard or make one optional. It really needs things like ports and even video out to dock to a real screen, or I don't really see much difference from an iPhone.
 
One interesting perspective of a new touch "quandrant" is that Apple isn't obligated to AT&T as it isn't, strictly speaking, an iPhone.

Opens up a realm of possibilities, and certainly more room for hardware and battery, which might give this an iPhone-on-steroids performance and lots of possible tie-ins with pro-apps.
 
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