http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/04/iphone-3g-lines-start-at-the-apple-cube-one-week-early/
Sorry dude...
And where is wildcardd?, what with all of this fine news coming about!
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http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/04/iphone-3g-lines-start-at-the-apple-cube-one-week-early/
Sorry dude...
And where is wildcardd?, what with all of this fine news coming about!
Seeing as Google affects iPhone in a trickle down kinda way: something I saw fortuitously, as someone linked to pinstack.com via a Blackberry 3G iPhone comparison chart.
July 3rd news
Voice based search on Google Maps. How hard would it be for Apple to show us some chutzpah, and put Alex into the iPhone, and give us some text to voice action?
http://www.google.com/mobile/blackberry/maps/voicesearch.html
The google mobile blog is here http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/
Google is asking for open feedback via the web page.
GOOG-411 is available in Canada as of late June.
Hit http://www.google.com/mobile/apple/ for more
With transit directions for places including Chicago, the San Francisco Bay Area, Seattle, Vancouver, and over 40 other cities in North America, it sounds like the iPhone is going to be a more useful thing for transit, as long as and it's a big caveat - the transport agencies get off their RSSs and actually implement this useful tech.
http://www.youtube.com/v/ZAUunR91VzI&hl=en
Street View faces a road bump
Looks like Privacy International is going to cause a halt to Street View in the UK if Google doesn't effectively cater to it's wishes... (they'll coimplain and drag Google off to the Information Commissioner.
http://maps.google.com/help/maps/streetview/ (And yes, that is a full on Orange 1 piece orange spandex outfit. It's like a bad rickrolling, my apologies).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7488524.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7488524.stm
For those thinking iPhone is the be all and end all - check out
http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/07/01/video-hands-on-with-the-ti-pico-projector/
- A Blackberry Curve sized TI (texas Instruments) Pico projector. Video on the page.
O2 Update
Hurrah for friendly staff. Naming no names, but they are all friendly at the local shop
A couple of things that seem to make more sense now:
- O2 shops were getting geared up to start doing paperwork and getting paused accounts sorted, doing credit checks etc. They had rotas and all sorts lined up to do it this week.
- Head office O2 intervened and changed all that - Interestingly this wasn't even discussed with the O2 Union - it was a high up call to not go that route.
- The signs from O2 are buit with cardboard in such a way that they can change the details without having to get in an entirely new sign. Clever
- Timings for PAYG - Several month wait is the best bet. To be fair to O2 - they don't want time wasters, unlockers are a pain and a cost to them, and to us contract people indirectly, as they use a subsidy that could be used to give us more competitive rates.
So nothing happening on Monday. The process on Friday for someone who's been on a contract with O2, or has done that and is on Simplicity is simple - a signature, a few clicks on the Golden upgrade path later and you're sorted.
- Old iPhone stock - for the Whole of O2 - there's less than 200 odd 8GB & 16 Gb combined (roughly 90 8GB, the rest 16 GB). There are about a dozen stores with 1-4 in stock in the back room, the rest in some undisclosed place of O2's...
- In terms of stock from last time - a smallish town store can hold and did hold say ~200 iPhones on UK launch. Maths:
Assume 4 staff, each going non-stop selling iPhones, taking 15 minutes (0.25 hour) for the sale, from 7am to 6pm (you can alter the figures to suit).
Each sales staff could sell 11/0.25 = 44 in a day (excluding multiple handset purchases for simplicity...)
So for a staff of 4 - that'd be 176 handsets. So the math shows that if they sold flat out, they'd have enough stock really for that day, and then get restocked.
So, PAYG comes later, as with all new expensive phones - it didn't happen with most recent ones to my knowledge- if you know of exceptions - please say!
An interesting point also - Enterprise - Someone is going to make a mint getting companies away from a pay monthly BT contract for conference calls and towards a simple iPhone dock with a decent integrated speaker and mic. not for larger calls, but for simple ones - this could be a great cost saver.
Snow Leopard on iPhone
When Snow Leopard comes out next year - will the iPhone get the same benefits? Usage of GPU for CPU, an upgraded OS?
3G iPhone in France
Interestingly, there's been no word about any legal attempts to get unlocked 3G iPhones out through legal measures. With the vocality of folks wanting PAYG, or to have a way to unlock the iPhone, I would have thought that there would have beeen some mention of this by now. Guess it might not appear (for a while at least).
Does Jobs have anything in his hat, ala Presto?
As the graphic shows:
No extra storage
No better camera
No picture messaging (MMS)
No video
No bluetooth audio
No copy and paste
We shall see.
PAYG
Am I right in saying that the price of an unlocked 3G iPhone is going to be waiting till the PAYG phones come out, and getting an unsubsidised iPhone? Quite a price to get an unlocked phone...
Stock levels for Friday
A duh! moment. Sometime Thursday, if you ask nicely to your local O2 store rep, they should be able to give you inforrmation as to stock levels, and also availability of 16GB models, white and black.
They could do this earlier - the thought is that as soon as the units start showing on the internal database, it'll show how many of each model type (8GB , 16GB black, 16GB white) there are, even before potentially they been delivered to the indicidual store's stock rooms, as it should show as stock within the UK O2 network.
Worth a punt... (If CW does this also, it's potentially possible to compare what CW will get initially with what O2 is going to get initially).
Stephen Fry
Apart from Mossberg, Gizmodo, Engadget, Stephen's Review is one of the more waited for - he'll be on guardian tech page hopefully (they say he's coming back later this month, so I hope he'll come in with a bang with an iPhone 3G review).
July 3rd news
Voice based search on Google Maps. How hard would it be for Apple to show us some chutzpah, and put Alex into the iPhone, and give us some text to voice action?
http://www.google.com/mobile/blackberry/maps/voicesearch.html
The google mobile blog is here http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/
Google is asking for open feedback via the web page.
GOOG-411 is available in Canada as of late June.
Hit http://www.google.com/mobile/apple/ for more
With transit directions for places including Chicago, the San Francisco Bay Area, Seattle, Vancouver, and over 40 other cities in North America, it sounds like the iPhone is going to be a more useful thing for transit, as long as and it's a big caveat - the transport agencies get off their RSSs and actually implement this useful tech.
http://www.youtube.com/v/ZAUunR91VzI&hl=en
Street View faces a road bump
Looks like Privacy International is going to cause a halt to Street View in the UK if Google doesn't effectively cater to it's wishes... (they'll coimplain and drag Google off to the Information Commissioner.
http://maps.google.com/help/maps/streetview/ (And yes, that is a full on Orange 1 piece orange spandex outfit. It's like a bad rickrolling, my apologies).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7488524.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7488524.stm
For those thinking iPhone is the be all and end all - check out
http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/07/01/video-hands-on-with-the-ti-pico-projector/
- A Blackberry Curve sized TI (texas Instruments) Pico projector. Video on the page.
O2 Update
Hurrah for friendly staff. Naming no names, but they are all friendly at the local shop
A couple of things that seem to make more sense now:
- O2 shops were getting geared up to start doing paperwork and getting paused accounts sorted, doing credit checks etc. They had rotas and all sorts lined up to do it this week.
- Head office O2 intervened and changed all that - Interestingly this wasn't even discussed with the O2 Union - it was a high up call to not go that route.
- The signs from O2 are buit with cardboard in such a way that they can change the details without having to get in an entirely new sign. Clever
- Timings for PAYG - Several month wait is the best bet. To be fair to O2 - they don't want time wasters, unlockers are a pain and a cost to them, and to us contract people indirectly, as they use a subsidy that could be used to give us more competitive rates.
So nothing happening on Monday. The process on Friday for someone who's been on a contract with O2, or has done that and is on Simplicity is simple - a signature, a few clicks on the Golden upgrade path later and you're sorted.
- Old iPhone stock - for the Whole of O2 - there's less than 200 odd 8GB & 16 Gb combined (roughly 90 8GB, the rest 16 GB). There are about a dozen stores with 1-4 in stock in the back room, the rest in some undisclosed place of O2's...
- In terms of stock from last time - a smallish town store can hold and did hold say ~200 iPhones on UK launch. Maths:
Assume 4 staff, each going non-stop selling iPhones, taking 15 minutes (0.25 hour) for the sale, from 7am to 6pm (you can alter the figures to suit).
Each sales staff could sell 11/0.25 = 44 in a day (excluding multiple handset purchases for simplicity...)
So for a staff of 4 - that'd be 176 handsets. So the math shows that if they sold flat out, they'd have enough stock really for that day, and then get restocked.
So, PAYG comes later, as with all new expensive phones - it didn't happen with most recent ones to my knowledge- if you know of exceptions - please say!
An interesting point also - Enterprise - Someone is going to make a mint getting companies away from a pay monthly BT contract for conference calls and towards a simple iPhone dock with a decent integrated speaker and mic. not for larger calls, but for simple ones - this could be a great cost saver.
Snow Leopard on iPhone
When Snow Leopard comes out next year - will the iPhone get the same benefits? Usage of GPU for CPU, an upgraded OS?
3G iPhone in France
Interestingly, there's been no word about any legal attempts to get unlocked 3G iPhones out through legal measures. With the vocality of folks wanting PAYG, or to have a way to unlock the iPhone, I would have thought that there would have beeen some mention of this by now. Guess it might not appear (for a while at least).
Does Jobs have anything in his hat, ala Presto?
As the graphic shows:
No extra storage
No better camera
No picture messaging (MMS)
No video
No bluetooth audio
No copy and paste
We shall see.
PAYG
Am I right in saying that the price of an unlocked 3G iPhone is going to be waiting till the PAYG phones come out, and getting an unsubsidised iPhone? Quite a price to get an unlocked phone...
Stock levels for Friday
A duh! moment. Sometime Thursday, if you ask nicely to your local O2 store rep, they should be able to give you inforrmation as to stock levels, and also availability of 16GB models, white and black.
They could do this earlier - the thought is that as soon as the units start showing on the internal database, it'll show how many of each model type (8GB , 16GB black, 16GB white) there are, even before potentially they been delivered to the indicidual store's stock rooms, as it should show as stock within the UK O2 network.
Worth a punt... (If CW does this also, it's potentially possible to compare what CW will get initially with what O2 is going to get initially).
Stephen Fry
Apart from Mossberg, Gizmodo, Engadget, Stephen's Review is one of the more waited for - he'll be on guardian tech page hopefully (they say he's coming back later this month, so I hope he'll come in with a bang with an iPhone 3G review).
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A few days left.
O2 will have very low stock supplies on Friday
A back of an envelope calculation, that may be wrong.
Let's put it another way - having checked, there are 1,300 physical O2 stores in the UK (as per a figure from CS). So say 40 big ones. 200 odd in in London, so a decent number near highly populus areas, or ones which have a high catchment area/ that have a decent number of commuters used to coming into work before 9am.
Let's go from the 40-60 per store number, taking the high figure.
60x 1,300 (the number of O2 stores there are) giving a top end figure of 78,000 iPhone 3Gs for Friday.
But.... We know from the O2 email that they had a pre registrered interest of over 200,000 people.
78,000 into 200,000? Roughly only 2 iPhones for every 5 people that have registered interest. And there is certainly going to be more interested than pre-registered.
That is why there will be a need to queue and maybe even "froth at the mouth"..
Just a shout out for Ubiq - Mentioned back in May here and what would youknow, mentioned in the UK gizmodo in July, here
The site for UbiqWindow
What would you know,
Samsung launch their iPhone killer, the Omnia SGH i900, with Ubiq'window touchless technology apparently...The project was driven by LM3LABS' distributor iM3 Asia in Singapore.)
Video http://www.vimeo.com/422742
This is the exciting part ot touch and multi-touch, and why it could be kick-ass... (Having a decent sound track whilst you use it doesn't hurt either).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlmtK9ebIcQ
Give it a year before this starts rocking more cutting edge showrooms, display booths etc.
O2 will have very low stock supplies on Friday
A back of an envelope calculation, that may be wrong.
Let's put it another way - having checked, there are 1,300 physical O2 stores in the UK (as per a figure from CS). So say 40 big ones. 200 odd in in London, so a decent number near highly populus areas, or ones which have a high catchment area/ that have a decent number of commuters used to coming into work before 9am.
Let's go from the 40-60 per store number, taking the high figure.
60x 1,300 (the number of O2 stores there are) giving a top end figure of 78,000 iPhone 3Gs for Friday.
But.... We know from the O2 email that they had a pre registrered interest of over 200,000 people.
78,000 into 200,000? Roughly only 2 iPhones for every 5 people that have registered interest. And there is certainly going to be more interested than pre-registered.
That is why there will be a need to queue and maybe even "froth at the mouth"..
Just a shout out for Ubiq - Mentioned back in May here and what would youknow, mentioned in the UK gizmodo in July, here
The site for UbiqWindow
What would you know,
Samsung launch their iPhone killer, the Omnia SGH i900, with Ubiq'window touchless technology apparently...The project was driven by LM3LABS' distributor iM3 Asia in Singapore.)
Video http://www.vimeo.com/422742
This is the exciting part ot touch and multi-touch, and why it could be kick-ass... (Having a decent sound track whilst you use it doesn't hurt either).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlmtK9ebIcQ
Give it a year before this starts rocking more cutting edge showrooms, display booths etc.
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A few days left.
O2 will have very low stock supplies on Friday
A back of an envelope calculation, that may be wrong.
Let's put it another way - having checked, there are 1,300 physical O2 stores in the UK (as per a figure from CS). So say 40 big ones. 200 odd in in London, so a decent number near highly populus areas, or ones which have a high catchment area/ that have a decent number of commuters used to coming into work before 9am.
Let's go from the 40-60 per store number, taking the high figure.
60x 1,300 (the number of O2 stores there are) giving a top end figure of 78,000 iPhone 3Gs for Friday.
But.... We know from the O2 email that they had a pre registrered interest of over 200,000 people.
78,000 into 200,000? Roughly only 2 iPhones for every 5 people that have registered interest. And there is certainly going to be more interested than pre-registered.
That is why there will be a need to queue and maybe even "froth at the mouth"..
Just a shout out for Ubiq - Mentioned back in May here and what would youknow, mentioned in the UK gizmodo in July, here
The site for UbiqWindow
What would you know,
Samsung launch their iPhone killer, the Omnia SGH i900, with Ubiq'window touchless technology apparently...The project was driven by LM3LABS' distributor iM3 Asia in Singapore.)
Video http://www.vimeo.com/422742
This is the exciting part ot touch and multi-touch, and why it could be kick-ass... (Having a decent sound track whilst you use it doesn't hurt either).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlmtK9ebIcQ
Give it a year before this starts rocking more cutting edge showrooms, display booths etc.
Hi Tom,
....a bit confused, isn;t O2 just a firmware update that can be downloaded or may be included in the 3G?
ps...can't access the weblinks (at work)
New Zealand's launch - If it's hectic there, with "unprecedented demand" it'll likely be similar elsewhere... Maybe a real early night on Thursday, then a real early morning Friday. Only a few hours to go as of now!
Hope you enjoyed the thread, feel free to say hi and sign off before this thread hits the archive. Till Snow Leopard
PS - A few hours left - so i'll still see if I can get some numbers for Friday/weekend launch with respect to O2 supplies.
TechOnline will have a chip teardown, but http://live.ifixit.com/Guide/First-Look/iPhone3G is doing a preliminary teardown before all the chips get identified.
The photos show how thin the thing actually is when you take a few parts out.
http://www.microsoft.com/prophoto/prosummit.aspx - Seadragon is getting demoed again, along with Photosynth. It has to be said - this is cool tech being shown from the Research Labs at Microsoft!
I'd imagine that Snow Leopard will bring hardware acceleration for video, and someting akin ot this in Quicktime X - Why would Quicktime suddenly jump number to X otherwise?
Hope you enjoyed the thread, feel free to say hi and sign off before this thread hits the archive. Till Snow Leopard
PS - A few hours left - so i'll still see if I can get some numbers for Friday/weekend launch with respect to O2 supplies.
TechOnline will have a chip teardown, but http://live.ifixit.com/Guide/First-Look/iPhone3G is doing a preliminary teardown before all the chips get identified.
The photos show how thin the thing actually is when you take a few parts out.
http://www.microsoft.com/prophoto/prosummit.aspx - Seadragon is getting demoed again, along with Photosynth. It has to be said - this is cool tech being shown from the Research Labs at Microsoft!
I'd imagine that Snow Leopard will bring hardware acceleration for video, and someting akin ot this in Quicktime X - Why would Quicktime suddenly jump number to X otherwise?
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Video on Surface
Again they're demoing Surface - with some very neat concepts - the underneath of the screen is being watched, so if you add something on top, like a identifiable "thing", it'll recognise it, and do something -
finger - note where the finger is, see what the finger is doing (movement etc)
palm - seen as a blob effectively
knob - like a small dial, with a flat bottom and a identifiable unique picture underneath
The knob is cool (oh behave): You add it on, it knows it's orientation, where it is, then dynamically creates the interface around the knob.
Rocky was loving this - and he uses hard core Mac Pro with dual screen to do Scoble's editing. Apple might be able to top this - as they already have an OS doing multi-touch - and it's already on x million units as the iPhone.
Cheers wildcardd - here's to 5 hours sleep - Will have a fun post soon.
Sounds like Google does a wireless streaming beta app, that can make a video on your laptop of what's on the screen (not sure about audio) - will have a play and see if Screenflow would work with the audio (you could do audio out 3.5mm jack to audio in 3.5mm jack or just do in built webcam mic I guess).
More later.
Will there be a queue for iPhone?
http://www.t-mobile.nl/iphone/index_2.html
If i had to guess, when I looked, the queue was easily in the hundreds. (It looks well over 20 deep and at least 10 wide and that's just who's showing in the lens.)
http://gizmodo.com/5024018/telenav-confirms-iphone-in+car-navigation-app
Gizmodo says a Turn by turn app is confirmed TeleNav - http://www.telenav.com/
A quick shout to T Mobile - a Cracking live stream launch - With some decent dance tunes, and the dancing gals Half tempted to do an all nighter hehe - They also had a personal shopper for each and every customer it looked like, and a goodie bag. Way to go!
O2 - You missed a cracking opportunity!
(Crowd in Netherlands was like >98% blokes)
Again they're demoing Surface - with some very neat concepts - the underneath of the screen is being watched, so if you add something on top, like a identifiable "thing", it'll recognise it, and do something -
finger - note where the finger is, see what the finger is doing (movement etc)
palm - seen as a blob effectively
knob - like a small dial, with a flat bottom and a identifiable unique picture underneath
The knob is cool (oh behave): You add it on, it knows it's orientation, where it is, then dynamically creates the interface around the knob.
Rocky was loving this - and he uses hard core Mac Pro with dual screen to do Scoble's editing. Apple might be able to top this - as they already have an OS doing multi-touch - and it's already on x million units as the iPhone.
Cheers wildcardd - here's to 5 hours sleep
- Will have a fun post soon.Sounds like Google does a wireless streaming beta app, that can make a video on your laptop of what's on the screen (not sure about audio) - will have a play and see if Screenflow would work with the audio (you could do audio out 3.5mm jack to audio in 3.5mm jack or just do in built webcam mic I guess).
More later.
Will there be a queue for iPhone?
http://www.t-mobile.nl/iphone/index_2.html
If i had to guess, when I looked, the queue was easily in the hundreds. (It looks well over 20 deep and at least 10 wide and that's just who's showing in the lens.)
http://gizmodo.com/5024018/telenav-confirms-iphone-in+car-navigation-app
Gizmodo says a Turn by turn app is confirmed
TeleNav - http://www.telenav.com/A quick shout to T Mobile - a Cracking live stream launch - With some decent dance tunes, and the dancing gals
Half tempted to do an all nighter hehe - They also had a personal shopper for each and every customer it looked like, and a goodie bag. Way to go!O2 - You missed a cracking opportunity!
(Crowd in Netherlands was like >98% blokes)
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More to come. I'd wrap this thread up in a bit - but to be honest - the iPhone ain't selling smoothly just quite yet.
I'm off to a wedding this weekend, and Birmingham Bullring on the offchance they'll have some tomorrow god awful early. If anyone knows stock levels, give me a shout!
Going to add some more on Surface etc on this post on Monday.
Edit Just today to current O2 customers - you can get an iPhone from apple stores who have stock by getting a PAC code and doing an P2 to O2 transfer better than nothing.
I'm off to a wedding this weekend, and Birmingham Bullring on the offchance they'll have some tomorrow god awful early. If anyone knows stock levels, give me a shout!
Going to add some more on Surface etc on this post on Monday.
Edit Just today to current O2 customers - you can get an iPhone from apple stores who have stock by getting a PAC code and doing an P2 to O2 transfer better than nothing.
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What the **** is going on here? Are you just keeping this thread alive because you started it and it had a lot of posts?
Get a blog.
Get a blog.
Hello to you too sir. How nice of you to swear at me within 3 words. Very civil. The thread is wrapping up, have no fear. I just haven't had time to add some information to wrap it up with. If you've been dealing with O2 to try and get an iPhone, then you might understand! The thread was intended to run till launch and then a few days more just to allow a brief post or two about reflections on rumors previous - if they came true or not.
If you'd been following the thread Matt, you might have come across several predictions about GPS on the net, and a lot of people diss the idea (e.g. "No GPS seems a reasonable guess")
There were a fair few before me i'd imagine pushing the Hammerhead II, but for what it's worth, this thread was discussing the Hammerhead II chip in March
:
The Hammerhead II amongst others have been identified by
both Semiconductor Insights and TechOnline
http://www.techonline.com/product/underthehood/209000013;jsessionid=NJUA1M3LJ15NQQSNDLPSKH0CJUNN2JVN
The teardown from iFixIt is here
Findings including
- The LCD and glass covering are separate components, just like on the iPod Touch. Previously, they were glued together, making replacement screens very expensive.
- The layout shows they may be very well trying to get as much battery in there as possible. a removable case and the battery at the bottom easily accessible may come in a future design, but it seems the tradeoff isn't worth it to Apple currently, and those who want a replaceable battery are better off getting a battery pack to use with the phone, and keep a cable or two handy.
- There was a mix of companies used: Broadcom, Infineon, Intel, Linear Technology, Marvell, National Semi, NXP, Samsung, Skyworks, SST, ST Micro, Toshiba, Triquint, & Wolfson to name some mentioned from the teardown..
- Samsung just had a quite large memory order from Apple - but it may not have been for the iPhone 3G -the teardowns suggest Toshiba is supplying the 8GB/16GB of memory there, using 8GB sized chips of flash on the device. Samsung now provides only the system RAM - so what is that order they had?
Appleinsider article
The article from Appleinsider speaks of unconfirmed clashing rumors: Where is Apple going to get 32GB and higher high-density modules?
It's expected a 32GB iPhone 3G will come along before a the v3 comes along (Hopefully Apple adds something like LTE/WiMax/other, so we can just all get along and call it that, rather than have v3 or 3rd gen iPhone).
- Did we see the S-GOLD3H? From techonline
Moving up the signal chain, Infineon won big. It supplies the UMTS transceiver, suspected to be the PMB 6952, as well as the baseband processor, which is actually a two-chip module in a single package. The first chip is the X-Gold 208 (PMB 8877), which caters to GSM/GPRS/EDGE waveforms. The second chip is marked the PMB 8802 and is suspected to be the WCDMA/HSDPA accelerator for 3G. While there's still some debate as to whether this combo package with Apple markings may in fact be Infineon's XGold 608 (PMB 8878), which Quirk and Yogasingam expected to see, that chip has as yet not become available to verify under Semiconductor Insights' microscope... In any case, that it's broken into two chips is surprising," said Carey, given that both Nokia and Qualcomm have integrated both functions it into a monolithic die. However, there may be more to the decision than design choice. "We suspect the second die has something to do with one of the InterDigital patents," said Yogasingam, referring to an Apple, InterDigital patent dispute last year.
Were the accelerometers tweaked? The teardowns suggest there's a LIS331 DL from STMicroelectronics in there.
- iPhone 3G video capabilities? Are we going to see them next time? (Presumably they're going to have to leap frog a bit)
Remember this article about the PowerVR SGX? ("Apple's bionic ARM to muscle advanced gaming graphics into iPhones")
Unfortunately - "the Samsung applications processor contains Imagination Technologies Power VR MBX Lite again (3D HW acceleration)" so no SGX yet - maybe they'll put it in the Touch 1st - that would be a kicker - get the Touch to be a powerhouse gaming app player too.
(Why have the SGX?/ OpenGL ES 2.0 support,a Universal Scalable Shader Engin, HD Video with the PowerVR VXD Core ETC.
With the PA Semi buy - Apple might take a while to do any bespoke work on it. It'll certainly help rival NVidia's work with their Tegra chips also, if they can get HD video working. Why? iTunes! iPlayer, etc. - Could Apple have snuck a compass into the chipset? Probably not. Have to wait for that version of Google Maps, and v3 iPhone...
Anyhow - if anyone on O2 wants a potential shortcut to get an iPhone rather than waiting 2 weeks and staring at the awful o2 website for "updates", just shout (I'm just confirming it at the moment. It might be a non-useful loophole - I need to check
Dude..chill out...why does this bother you? If you don't like the thread, don't read it. Seriously, don't be immature
I bet your that guy that gives wise @ss responses to newbies who somtimes may ask silly questions...
Use at your own risk. If you are on Simplicity, and don't mind paying a month of Simplicity, you can cancel it, get a PAC code*, then just go into an Apple store and pick up one from their bountiful stock (O2 stores might have "some, soon", CPW might have "some" on "Friday". You can then keep your old number, buy an iPhone, activate it, and use the iPhone, and then get set up on the iPhone tariff once they've cleared the backlog (mine is going to shift over to the right tariff within 48 hours). Hopefully, you won't even get billed the extra 30 days of simplicity, as you've gone from O2 to O2. (You're well within your rights to complain and ask to get a refund if you are charged, since O2 reps were telling people around June 11th, that you didn't have to cancel your Simplicity tariff 30 days in advance, to then have a PAC code ready for the 11th).
*Don't be fobbed off, it takes a minute to make one, and a few minutes to get it on the system. If they say it'll take 48 hours that's a lie - the PAC code is near instant, and you can get the code within a few minutes. What takes up to 48 hours is the PAC code to filter through their syste to the point of notifying you of what it is by text etc. So call up customer services ask insistently that you know the PAC code has been made, and you'd like it now please).
iPhone support is on 0870 6072302, options 2,5,2 I think
There may be more stock, and you might already have yourself on a queue - but if you want a White 16GB, or just to get one, and you don't mind going to an Apple store (they show availability on the apple.com/uk/iphone page) this might be quicker than chancing it with O2.
PS - You can use Personal shopping to set up and buy an iPhone. Worthwhile! The process was a lot smoother on Saturday. Go for the 16GB, you won't regret it, honestly - you'll fill it up in no time.
Ok - you can link several accounts to your iPhone 3G (e.g. Exchange, MobileMe, Yahoo, gmail/Google Mail, and any other POP/IMAP account you have the details of.
When you say auto delete - what do you mean, and do you mean inbox?
I think what you're asking is -
An email comes into say the Yahoo account. It's pushed to the iPhone. If you delete the email on the iPhone, that change is then pushed back to the Yahoo account, and the email is deleted from that account.
You can set email, e.g. through Thunderbird, to actually not get a copy of the emails, but actually move them to a local computer (i.e. make a copy locally, then delete the email completely from the Yahoo servers).
From what I've gathered, and a quick test:
Sent an email to my Yahoo account with an attachment
It was pushed to my iPhone (POP Yahoo account) and notified me within 6 seconds
I viewed the email on the iPhone (and looking at mail.yahoo.com, the email then showed as read)
I deleted the email on my iPhone. The email upon page refresh showed it as deleted on the mail.yahoo.com page (Put in the trash - which will empty automatically every so often I believe)
The email wasn't available to be downloaded via Thunderbird. It went to the Trash folder. You'd have to get the trash folder emptied before you really got rid of it.
Sending another email to the yahoo account
Shows up on mail.yahoo.com & is pushed to the iPhone
Viewing the email on Mail.yahoo.com changes the status to read on the iPhone (though took a bit longer to change the status, still under a minute)
Deleting the email on mail.yahoo.com, the email then doesn't gets deleted from the iPhone within seconds
The email is then unavailable for downloading via Thunderbird, but you could still move it out of Trash, and get it back.
So basically, for Yahoo at least, deleting messages from the Inbox, on either your iPhone, or at mail.yahoo.com, moves it to the Trash folder - so you can still put it back into the Inbox. Beyond that, you'd have to check for more - hopefully other members can help.
If you said what the account was that would help.
As an aside- you can set the frequency in which your spam folder empties from immediately (which is a bit dangerous, if you get useful mail seen as spam), once a week, once a fortnight, and once a month).
Yahoo does let you set up disposable addresses too, under the Options setting again. I'm not sure about what happens to the Trash - as Yahoo was under
cool, i prety much get it now. i have my iPhone linked to Gmail, at first i was afraid that too many emails would kill memory and space on my iPhone. But after reading your response, the Iphone is only a "vehicle" for reading writing and deleting emails (if i have it straight). I originally thinking of the outlook aka entourage style, where you can set emails to auto delete, lets say after a month. At my work pc, i have this set like this.
so my next assumption is, like you highlighted with junk mail, is to change settings on the actual gmail webpage eg, if I wanted to auto delete spam
one last Q, Gmail can handle 1 Gig of email memory, so that means my iphone can have equal amount of messages also? (hypothetically speaking)
having looked at the adanced settings, you can modify behaviour for drafts, sent and deleted mailboxes for a mobileme account, and for gmial, you cna modify the drafts and deleted mailbox behaviour 0-
you can modify the delted messages removal (1 day/week/month/never)
Deleted messages can be sent to wherever you want to..
You've got an 8GB or 16GB iPhone. It'll take what you throw at it. Best to sync over fast wifi initially to get all those emails. Probably best to have an email cull too - You need them all? Archive them? If they're there for file attachments, put them on theh phone if they're compatible, or maybe try using mobile me - you get 20GB odd space to put music and all sorts of files up on the cloud, so you can access them wherever.
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jul2008/tc20080728_737280.htm
Business Week's got the wrong tack. Multi-touch, but a multi-touch panel in front of the keyboard, not the laptop's main display being the multi-touch panel. Apple's patents and the MacBook Air are shouting this out.
Interestingly, there is now an app on the App Store including VNC, using the iPhone as a remote control, amongst other things. Not so far fetched now!
Microsoft has rolled out the Spherical Surface for demo again, to a bigger audience than just Scoble followers. I'd put odds on that during a Snow Leopard preview/demo, they're going to show how a multi-touch interface to it could work on a non-standard interface (i.e. not a mouse, not a keyboard, but something more like the Surface globe, or a specialised trackpad.)
http://www.tuaw.com/2008/07/30/two-auto-performance-meters-for-iphone/
As predicted - there are now 2 auto performance meters out, using the accelerometers. And there's word that they could be used as part of the Core Location/GPS system.
Looks like more mainstream tech media is coming round to multitouch panels on laptops
http://blogs.computerworld.com/what..._future_macbooks_have_a_physical_mouse_button
(Seth Weintraub's weblog being 9to5mac...)
Business Week's got the wrong tack. Multi-touch, but a multi-touch panel in front of the keyboard, not the laptop's main display being the multi-touch panel. Apple's patents and the MacBook Air are shouting this out.
Interestingly, there is now an app on the App Store including VNC, using the iPhone as a remote control, amongst other things. Not so far fetched now!
Microsoft has rolled out the Spherical Surface for demo again, to a bigger audience than just Scoble followers. I'd put odds on that during a Snow Leopard preview/demo, they're going to show how a multi-touch interface to it could work on a non-standard interface (i.e. not a mouse, not a keyboard, but something more like the Surface globe, or a specialised trackpad.)
http://www.tuaw.com/2008/07/30/two-auto-performance-meters-for-iphone/
As predicted - there are now 2 auto performance meters out, using the accelerometers. And there's word that they could be used as part of the Core Location/GPS system.
Looks like more mainstream tech media is coming round to multitouch panels on laptops
http://blogs.computerworld.com/what..._future_macbooks_have_a_physical_mouse_button
(Seth Weintraub's weblog being 9to5mac...)