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3G iPhone: Thinner, Thicker, or Both?

I wouldn't mind a 22% increase in thickness.

I'll buy the two phones... ("Buy" as in believe. I'll get the phatty :) )

One thick with 3g, fat memory and long battery life.

One thin with Edge and good battery life.


But what I really want is...

- The ability to type emails in landscape mode.
- A Speakerphone that REALLY works.
- TETHERING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
xhambonex said:
I thought that the two bridges were just showing the new division of OS X. The mobile version and the computer version. I doubt the two bridges has anything to do with consumer products like a tablet, although they could infer a tablet through further development of OS X mobile. Since its a developers conference, the focus will be on OS X and OS X mobile. 3g iphone just happens to slip in.
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yes, this is correct
 
xhambonex said:
I thought that the two bridges were just showing the new division of OS X. The mobile version and the computer version. I doubt the two bridges has anything to do with consumer products like a tablet, although they could infer a tablet through further development of OS X mobile. Since its a developers conference, the focus will be on OS X and OS X mobile. 3g iphone just happens to slip in.
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yes thats what I said, mobile vs. regular (incl possibly tablet touch) platforms for development
 
drb6 said:
yes thats what I said, mobile vs. regular (incl possibly tablet touch) platforms for development
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Actually, no. This is what you said:

"I still think this works with the tablet rumor. Diverging paths for developers...1) Mobile - iPhone/touch and 2) Portable - Tablet touch applications"
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ltldrummerboy said:
If this is from Apple, they're doing a good job of confusing us. "I didn't understand a word you just said."
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I totally agree. I think this thin and thick version is a little flakey. Apple has always liked to keep things simple. These would be way too many variations of the same product for the consumer to handle. I really can't see Apple releasing anything thicker than the current iPhone and passing it off and a breakthrough. Sure, Steve will spin it in a way that everyone will be cool with the idea of a thicker phone, but in the end we'll feel it. Having a varied range of different iPhones each with different features could be a bit confusing and clash with what Apple goes for with it's products which is elegant simplicity and ease of use.
 
Wow.

I love my 8GB iPhone and it still works great, but if a 32GB 3G GPS iPhone comes out without the recessed headphone jack, I think I'd even pay $699 to get one. I usually play it closer to the belt.
 
raggedjimmi said:
It's absolutely terrible for me. The radius reticule circles my entire city when I use it and it's unusable when out and about. I think it's a nice software feature though to give a rough guess of where you are but I'd love something (GPS or not) that'll be so precise that I don't need to buy a TomTom.
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Is your city 2 miles wide? It shouldn't be too hard to find anything in your town then.

J/k. Isn't the circle supposed to be within a 2 mile radius of your location?
 
Part of ATT Wireless Website down

Part of the AT&T Wireless website has been down since yesterday for maintenance, including pretty basic pages, such as the "about" page. As best as I can tell, it only includes the personal use portion of the website (not the business use portion). I didn't think anything of it yesterday, but it's still down, and this is a long time for "maintenance." Any connection?
 
IF only 16gb & 32gb (no more 8gb) iPhones are rolled out at WWDC @ $399 and $499 ea., how does this affect the iPod Touch line, 8gb, 16gb, 32gb?

The iPod Touch 16gb would become the same price as the iPhone 16gb (or greater if considering the AT&T subsidy rumor).

If the new iPhone, with it's physical features updated and depth reduced 22%, .46 to .36 inches, and the iPod Touch currently at .31 in, the feature set and size of the iPod Touch's comparative value is further reduced.

This leads me to speculate the iPod Touch will be updated in some fashion at WWDC. A price cut is in order across the board, because there is no way they would introduce a 16gb iPhone for the same price or less as a 16gb iPod Touch.

Second point:

The iPhone was introduced July 2007.

The iPod Touch was introduced September 2007.

Both have been updated simultaneously since their introduction, keeping an even cost/benefit ratio:

Since November 2007:

  • 8gb iPod Touch $299
  • 8gb iPhone, 16gb iPod Touch $399
  • 16gb iPhone, 32gb iPod Touch $499

Proposed changes:

  • 8gb iPod Touch $299
  • 16gb iPod Touch $399, 16gb 3G Slimmer iPhone $399 less subsidy
  • 32gb iPod Touch $499, 32gb 3G Slimmer iPhone $499 less subsidy

These prices do not make business sense.

Here is what is likely to happen:

Scenario One:
  • 8gb iPod Touch phase out.
  • 16gb iPod Touch down to $299.
  • 32gb iPod Touch down to $399.
  • Education deal changes in some way (either free 16gb or free 8gb while supplies last).

Scenario 2a:
8gb, 16gb, 32gb 3G iPhone introduced and pricing scheme remains the same until September.

Scenario 2b (most logical):
3G iPhone 16gb @ $499 less a subsidy, 32gb @ 599 less a subsidy. Previous generation iPhones discounted and phased out. Effectively the same pricing scheme until September when new/updated iPod models are introduced. This is in line with the previous generation iPhone's (overpriced) introduction.

Scenario Three (most likely):
16gb & 32gb iPhone introduced and iPod Touch pricing remains the same. Apple uses the Education discount deal to phase out the 8gb iPod Touches until a September update.

This education deal, as it stands, should it stand, should give us some insight into the iPhone offerings. IF this education deal stands until September, as the rebate and deal information states... the iPod Touch pricing and offering WILL remain the same until the September update.

Will the iPhone prices be overpriced until a future reduction in September?

What other scenarios can you think of, and what are the implications to the Education deal? The scenarios are highly dependent upon what the heck iPhone offerings will be introduced on the 9th. Size(s), feature set(s), memory capacity, etc.
 
SJobsismyhero said:
As everyone desperately waits for the new iphone (even myself) we are still not even definitely sure one will be released for all we know Jobs could take the stage and be like we are working on a 3g phone will be shipping in late fall or something! That would SUCK!
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this just simply wont happen. ATT employs are not allowed to take off the first two weeks after WWDC? No stock of iphone anywhere.

The announcement will come @ WWDC. There is enough evidence pointing to that to be 100% concrete @ this point.

as long as it has 32GB, 3g, and BLUETOOTH AUDIO for the ipod portion, ill be purchasing, only @ 499$, not going to spend more.

its coming, its just a matter of how many people are gonna complain that its not got everything in it that everyone wanted, bore.

i see no reason to discount the phone for "new customers", we all have to sign a new contract, whether we are new or not.!
 
Ladies and Gentlemen

"we are very happy to present the second generation of iPhone....

...one more thing...

iPhone is a very successfull product.... bla bla bla...
We worked very hard on that... bla bla bla...
from the design team of the iPod bla bla bla...
here is the new ... iPhone nano! And its even thinner than the iPhone classic!!
Unbelievable!
"
 
Gps

Do you really care about the GPS and Video Conferencing?

Not That Many People Will Have The New iPhone.

But I Still Think It's Cool
 
How to watch on the 9th

Does anyone know how to find out what is up on the 9th? Will there be a webcast or on TV? Is there some where on the web to watch postings?
Thanks:apple:
 
I can't shake the feeling that we will see low priced iPhones and higher priced models as well.
Materials would differ and so would clock speeds and memory, etc.
Maybe only one or two models next week,
but I think the future will bring several models, from Nano to Pro.
 
maddogeco said:
I think where all missing 2 things
Will in be 3g or HSPDA or both I will have 3G but HSPDA would rock. Yes we have that in Australia pity its run by telstra
Secondly will it have wireless sync with my mac, I really hate cables

Ill mention a 3rd colour face plates that are replaceable and therefore you could have user replaceable batterys??
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"WE'RE", not "WHERE"...
we're = we are.
 
I feel like people have just expected the 32gb iphone since the rumor was made up. That's still not something I think we will see...are they just going to make up some more room in that phone, if they are adding 3g, gps, longer battery life, and extra storage??? I think 32gb is last on my list. GPS is not a big deal, considering i can pay for my chocolate to have gps. and yes i bet gps will only be available as a plan extra, not a standalone device like a garmin.
 
Xjett said:
I totally agree. I think this thin and thick version is a little flakey. Apple has always liked to keep things simple. These would be way too many variations of the same product for the consumer to handle. I really can't see Apple releasing anything thicker than the current iPhone and passing it off and a breakthrough. Sure, Steve will spin it in a way that everyone will be cool with the idea of a thicker phone, but in the end we'll feel it. Having a varied range of different iPhones each with different features could be a bit confusing and clash with what Apple goes for with it's products which is elegant simplicity and ease of use.
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I don't understand that argument.

Apple has 4 major models of iPods (Shuffle, Nano, Classic, and Touch). 5 different sets of physical dimensions. Multiple capacities available in each line. Even multiple colors.

3 different lines of laptops with 4 distinct sets of physical dimensions.

Why would it be so hard to imagine 2 iPhones? I, for one, would prefer the choice. Given that, all else being equal, EDGE uses less power than 3G (as indicated again by the option Apple is apparently giving to turn 3G off), I would like to see them push the envelope on size by making a very thin EDGE only phone. If it were thin enough, I might it even choose that over the 3G version.

Others would choose the more features and the bigger phone. In fact those who want spec bragging rights might even prefer a larger phone than the current one with great battery life, 3G, GPS, larger speaker, etc.

Why not offer the choice? Just like they do now with the iPods.
 
iPhone NFS on Apple.com

Any one noticed that you can no longer buy the iPhone on Apples Online store. Damm It just as i was to buy one to night. (Don't realy care about new one. i Live in NZ Oh and why not wait for the iphone in nz? coz its goone be about 599 USD 700 NZD i can "get" one for 611 Post inclueded) so whys this apple? not trying to get rid of ya old iPhones?
 
nintyuser said:
All this talk of wanting "thickness" and "thiness" makes me think of sir-mix-a-lot's, baby got back song.

BUT!! with an iphone twist to the lyrics. :D

Even the thread title says it all: 3Giphone: Thinner, Thicker or Both?

I want all the thickness Jobs and co. will fit into this mama. This Big Mama of OS X touch technology.
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I LIKE THICK PHONES and I Cannot Lie....
You other owners can't deny
when a phone walks in with an itty bitty waist and 3G in your face
You get SPRUNG

:cool: Sorry for that lapse of judgement.

Here's my dilemna.

Just bought hubby an iPhone for our anniversary at the end of May.

I'm extremely jealous and want my own. Want it NOW. I'm exceptionally impatient. When I decide on something, I MUST act, LOL. :D

My pointy mouse finger arrow (that's the technical term, btw) is hovering over the "Buy it Now" for an unlocked "like New" phone, probably someone unloading it in anticipation for the 3G version. I'm on T-Mobile and need an unlocked version (I know I'm not the only one, so I won't be shy in admitting it), as we are locked in for the next 2 years. To be honest, I'll probably be better at accepting the ineptness of an older version than employing my patience to wait for a newer version.

My options:

1) NOT wait (these are all still rumors, after all), get one on eBay now, possibly for less, since many are waiting for 3G version, and perhaps the demand on eBay is a little subdued? Anyway, T-Mobile doesn't have 3G capability at the moment. Yes, I know, they are supposed to be rolling it out this year.


2) DO wait till next week....

a)If there IS a new phone (and even if they do "announce" it, there's no guarantee it would be available that week) then I would have wait even longer for those hacking "professionals" to offer them on eBay (I could probably unlock it myself, I'm pretty technically inclined, but don't want to deal with the activating AT&T / canceling AT&T / possibly bricking my phone issues) and pay out the nose for the newest unlocked version. Getting an unlocked one on eBay will easily cost me $100 over retail, probably even more if I want to buy one right away.
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1a. I could wait and STILL get a 1.0 when 2.0 comes out, as DROVES of people will be selling their old unloved unwanted easily discarded unacceptable models on eBay.​

b)If there ISN'T a new phone, I can still get the 1.0 on eBay, but the demand for them might be up, and there may be less available, and then I waited for no good reason.:p​

I'm leaning toward not waiting. Any advice, LOL?
 
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