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3G iPhone: Thinner, Thicker, or Both?

There are two things i can tell you with absolute certainty about the new iPhone launch...

1) When it is unveiled, there will be hundreds of posts moaning and groaning about how its too cheap/expensive/thick/thin/big/small/has gps/no gps/battery life too short etc!!!

2) When the new iPhone goes on sale, all the ridiculous shall i buy now / shall i wait for the new model threads will begin again!!
 
Apologize for not reading back posts, but in case it hasn't been stated: Scott Moritz has sh#t for brains and is a finger puppet for $$$ interests trying to affect the short term price of aapl stock. The fact that any rumor is consistent with something Moritz wrote earlier doesn't point to confirmation, but suggests even more strongly that neither rumor has any credibility whatsoever. [Legal disclaimer: JMO]
 
JonathanU said:
This is my first ever post on this site, and I just wanted to tell you all how excited all your excitement has got me. I don't understand most of it, but anyway :D

I haven't been this excited about what is frankly, a random date in the calendar, since I was about 6. Which begs the question, is Steve Jobs Father Christmas in disguise? If so, is WWDC attended by his elves? Do they all wear funny costumes, or are they all dressed in skin tight Mission impossible uniforms like the ones that the guys you see on the Apple website "demonstrating" new products with voices that sound like a stage hypnotist (it's all becoming clear now that I write this...) ;)

Seriously though - 3G is overrated unless you're trying to watch TV on your mobile - I know, i've had it for years on (shhh) Windows mobiles/ Nokias etc. The iphone's web pages seem to load pretty quickly anyway.
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Welcome to this site. I personally love Steve Jobs for giving me back this christmas exciting that I lost in moment of what I thought would be geniousity. So the comparison to christmas is quite common here I think :)

Personally I am waiting for 3G and GPS. I just love both on my N95. But the most important fact for me is that it will be available in Sweden.
 
I have to say the current iPhone "Location" function does an OK job for me, it is not bad at all.

Where I'd love GPS though, is for geotagging photos - take a snapshot, send it to someone and then have the link ready for google-maps - or "Show on Map", not just in Aperture (or maybe iPhoto), but directly in Mail. And some sorry special Link for PeeCee users.

Also, this may or may not have been rumored already, it is quite likely we will see a tiny clip-on/add-on GPS unit for the existing iPhone. Or perhaps allow for a tiny Bluetooth GPS Receiver to be used. These go for no more than 49 USD these days, so it could easily be added for us "1st gen iPhone users" (to tie us over until our 18 month contract expires and we can get on with a new one.

Of course, I do hope O2 in the UK allows for an "earlier upgrade". I know I will want a new iPhone next week... hopefully some friend in Germany can use my old one with shoddy T-Mobile then...
 
cornfedgrowth said:
This is actually an interesting idea... Maybe a way to break into the Enterprise market? Perhaps apple will give the 'Pro' version the ability to more easily interface with corporate e-mail system securely as well as differences in hardware. I don't think a differentiated iPhone line is out of the question. iPods have been in two separate lines since the Mini... The Minis and Nanos for the most part, were differentiated from their traditional iPod counterparts by hardware differences, i.e. storage size. The question is how will the iPhones be differentiated? It could be based on form factor, but touch capabilities require a pretty good sized screen and I can't imagine apple shrinking it down or expanding it too much. Storage could differentiate it, but since both versions would be on flash chips, it doesn't make as much difference as iPod vs. Nano differences. I guess this leads me to think that the software for the two versions could be different.

I think there are just too many possibilities... we'll just have to wait and see!
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I too have been thinking about this and have been since we saw the rumoured 'iPhone' & 'iPhone Black' placeholders a few weeks back - could denote 'standard' and 'pro' versions of the new iPhone
 
arn said:
The higher capacity iPod Classic and lower capacity iPod Classic have been different thicknesses for a long time.

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_ipod/family/ipod_classic?mco=MTE2NTc

arn
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Yes - This is what I think is going on...

The lower capacity iPhone(s) will be thinner that the current iPhone and the higher capacity iPhone(s) will be the same size as the existing iPhone.

I think it will be thicker in comparison to the new thinner iPhone, not thicker in comparison to the current iPhone.
 
Having had phones with both 3G and GPS, I can say that (from my own experience) battery life honestly wasn't any worse than any of my later generation 2G phones.

GPS was an absolute killer though for battery power. After the "yay, this phone has GPS, I'll use it everywhere" novelty wore off, I just disabled it and never used it. Then again the N95 for example crashed so often without even using the GPS features I never was game to use it, especially if I was having a particularly important SMS conversation or was waiting for a phone call. Hey, I remember now, the killer feature of mobile phones is... the phone!
 
Kuska said:
I too have been thinking about this and have been since we saw the rumoured 'iPhone' & 'iPhone Black' placeholders a few weeks back - could denote 'standard' and 'pro' versions of the new iPhone
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But that's not Apple's style. In the OS market, they love to take jabs at Windows from creating multiple versions of their OS for different markets vs. one version of Mac OS X for everyone.
 
m-dogg said:
But that's not Apple's style. In the OS market, they love to take jabs at Windows from creating multiple versions of their OS for different markets vs. one version of Mac OS X for everyone.
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If you think the OSX on the iPhone is the same as the OSX on a Mac you're crazy. It's a cut down version, not the same thing.
 
m-dogg said:
But that's not Apple's style. In the OS market, they love to take jabs at Windows from creating multiple versions of their OS for different markets vs. one version of Mac OS X for everyone.
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I agree that we don't see Apple creating lots of variation based on the end user i.e home edition etc etc.

Could a more business oriented phone see a differently featured hardware set ?

Every time I thought this through I ended up thinking 'hmmm you could be right why not just throw the whole package in there'

Still cant help thinking the black denotes more than just colour though.......
 
BongoBanger said:
If you think the OSX on the iPhone is the same as the OSX on a Mac you're crazy. It's a cut down version, not the same thing.
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No, that's not what I meant.

When Vista was coming out and was announcing all their different editions (Ultimate, Home Premium, Home Basic, Business, Enterprise), Job stood on stage* and made fun of the fact that they had so many different versions of their OS and were forcing consumers to have to decide which one may be best for them. He then countered that their is one version of Mac OS X for everyone.

Just as he mocked multiple versions of computer operation systems, I don't think Apple would release multiple versions of their iPhone OS.

* Does anyone remember which WWDC/MWSF keynote this was at?
 
rubenerd said:
Having had phones with both 3G and GPS, I can say that (from my own experience) battery life honestly wasn't any worse than any of my later generation 2G phones.

GPS was an absolute killer though for battery power. After the "yay, this phone has GPS, I'll use it everywhere" novelty wore off, I just disabled it and never used it. Then again the N95 for example crashed so often without even using the GPS features I never was game to use it, especially if I was having a particularly important SMS conversation or was waiting for a phone call. Hey, I remember now, the killer feature of mobile phones is... the phone!
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Speak for yourself ... I plan on using GPS in the car where I already have a charger.
 
JonasLondon said:
I have to say the current iPhone "Location" function does an OK job for me, it is not bad at all.
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It's absolutely terrible for me. The radius reticule circles my entire city when I use it and it's unusable when out and about. I think it's a nice software feature though to give a rough guess of where you are but I'd love something (GPS or not) that'll be so precise that I don't need to buy a TomTom.
 
m-dogg said:
No, that's not what I meant.

When Vista was coming out and was announcing all their different editions (Ultimate, Home Premium, Home Basic, Business, Enterprise), Job stood on stage* and made fun of the fact that they had so many different versions of their OS and were forcing consumers to have to decide which one may be best for them. He then countered that their is one version of Mac OS X for everyone.

Just as he mocked multiple versions of computer operation systems, I don't think Apple would release multiple versions of their iPhone OS.

* Does anyone remember which WWDC/MWSF keynote this was at?
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Ah, I see.

Fair enough.
 
raggedjimmi said:
It's absolutely terrible for me. The radius reticule circles my entire city when I use it and it's unusable when out and about. I think it's a nice software feature though to give a rough guess of where you are but I'd love something (GPS or not) that'll be so precise that I don't need to buy a TomTom.
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Yes. The original circle is fairly inaccurate. But unless you're totally lost, you can move the pin from that original general/inaccurate placement to where you actually are (say you're at an intersection) and get precise directions from there. It's actually pretty good with an extra step.
 
syklee26 said:
ok so here is what's going on:

$199 - iPhone 8GB with 3G (no GPS)

$299 - iPhone 16GB with 3G (no GPS)

$399 - iPhone 8GB with 3G AND GPS

$499 - iPhone 16GB with 3G AND GPS

Me thinks the inclusion of GPS will make the iPhone fatter to accommodate the battery to withstand the rapid drainage from GPS activation. Technology has advanced enough for 1 year to reduce the thickness of iPhone with 3G but more battery will be needed for GPS.
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If Apple intends to continue selling the 8GB and 16GB iPhone w/out 3G and GPS why did they stop producing them recently? Seems like they would keep selling them and then reduce the price on June 9th.
 
BREAKING:

The new iPhone will have more features, be a different size, and have shoddy 3rd party cases.

It will most likely be pricey and although most people will be satisfied with it, there will be a small, highly vocal community that will bemoan apples business practices, predict financial catastrophe and point out how their Photoshop mock-up and fanciful imagination was far superior. :rolleyes:

I can't wait until WWDC is over and it wont be groundhog day every time i visit macrumours front page.
 
I can tell you two things for sure about the new iPhone...

It will be a floor wax...
AND
it will be a dessert topping.
 
:D my thought too!

but - this is quite obvious. they will have to diversify! and - probably I will want to have both models - if they release 2 versions - like with the ipod. The nano is supernice - as is the touch.

naroola said:
Crap! Now I'll have to buy 2, one thin and one thick. :confused:
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Im a Verizon customer and plan on buying the new iphone when it comes out. I have a two part question:

1. Would it benefit me to buy a junk AT&T phone before the iphone launch so I can get the subsidy?:confused:

2. I haven't heard anyone say anything about porting your old phone number to the iphone. I assume you can but I want to make sure of that before hand.:confused:

Thanks!:apple:
 
MacTheSpoon said:
Phew, what a mystery. I am so looking forward to finding out the truth next week.
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You're not the only one. I am not in the market for a new phone, but with all the hype about "electric computer", other things may be coming in mac os x. I am wondering what else is up Steve's sleeve.

What would be cool - and external USB blue-ray rw for less than $200 (I need the storage space for permanate storage. I have outgrown DL disks). Also a new mini-tower that replaces the mini, or is a step up from the mini; but a step down in price from the Imac. Wife needs a new computer, and I really only want apple in my home....
 
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