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:eek: No 3G in the US?!?! We have had it here since 2003! I remember the first 3G phones, I have one, the Motorola A835, as big as a brick, the shape looks like the "banana phone" iPhone spoof from GTA 4 and the battery lasted less than a day! Got it £25 brand new of pay as you go, though!

He meant no other network compatible with the iPhone has 3G, hence it would be pointless to unlock.

Verizon Wireless and Sprint have had 3G for years, but they are not compatible with the iPhone.

T-Mobile, the other major GSM carrier besides AT&T, only has 3G in one city (NYC), and just launched that a few weeks ago.

The "Broadband Access" on this map is Verizon Wireless' 3G coverage. It covers most of the U.S. population.

http://www.verizonwireless.com:80/b...anCatDisplayName=BroadbandAccess&mlc_content=
 
Mobile TV? As in having an ATSC tuner (in the U.S., and all of the various equivalents in other countries)?

Or streamed from online sources? This seems far more likely, as it would not require an antenna.

Really, the iPhone has mobile TV already since it plays shows you've purchased via iTunes... perhaps this "new feature" is just a translation problem, rather than adding live television functionality.


We have in switzerland since about 1.5 years Mobile TV on nearly all mobile phones. We can watch TV over streams over rtsp (real-time streaming protocol) i think there is only one app that features these types of streams.
 
In 6 months that's all they did...

That's not true as they were still playing catch up to finish the features Steve demoed in January.

Reporters who had the opportunity to play with it after MWSF said some of the applications hadn't even been loaded and were just placeholders.
 
new 3g iphone, blah, blah, blah!

Morning,

I know everyone is getting excited about the new iphone, i also find myself checking all the rumour sites every flippin day. but yesterday i thought of something. Even if it does come out, i've got to wait till october till i can upgrade my 02 contract, and even then i'll be screwed by an 18 month or 2 year contract and the next gen phone probably wont be hackable at all, so that stops me trying (somehow) to get one from the states. Then i thought to myself, as much as i love apple and i cant wait for the iphone, BUT im still waiting for an update that will allow my imove to work with my new Panasonic SD9 camera footage!!.....the irony is iMovie works with the (6 month) older SD5!!!!

It makes me wonder why apple seems to drop the ball on certain aspects of their products when the concentrate on "the money" products....come on steve!


Thats my rant for the day....now, whens that phone coming out!??:D
 
Mobile Video Phone!

Why is no one excited by this? To think I could videochat with friends and family all over the world, no matter where I am, that is really awesome!

I guess people are so anti-social nowadays with their supremely low-tech text messages... what's that all about? :confused:
 
Why is no one excited by this? To think I could videochat with friends and family all over the world, no matter where I am, that is really awesome!

That'll depend on how the video chat will work. If they use some beefed-up version of iChat for video the thing could work because the calls to other iChat computers or other iPhones would be free (as long as you have a data flat).

However, the 3G standard already includes a video-chat feature that is implemented in close to all handsets sold in Europe. When you call someone, this counts as a normal phone-call. Meaning calling is not going to be free - and calling abroad would cost a fortune. Also, when you're roaming, video-calls are insanely expensive (like 5 bucks per minute ...).

I don't know the exact reason but video-calls have never taken off in Europe. Nobody ever uses the feature. Perhaps they'll work in the US. If they were free, they'd probably work in Europe, too, though.

kis
 
Be reminded that the European Soccer Championship will kick off in June, taking place in Switzerland (and Austria). Swisscom is promoting quite heavily the MobileTV service for it, for which they expect a major push from the introduction of the iPhone... I would not be surprised to see a sale later this month already in order to get enough people on it for the championships.
 
As for Swisscom and the Swiss forum rumor that has apparently ballooned into "fact"... some necessary info is missing if it were to be true.

I believe that Swisscom's mobile TV service uses DVB-H, broadcast over the air.

But there is no DVB-H service in the US. In fact, ATT bought up the US spectrum (and company) that was going to trial it.

Okay, so that would make it seem like ATT would also use DVB-H, except they just announced their use of Qualcomm's MediaFlo broadcasts, which Verizon's VCAST also uses.

Both DVB and MediaFlo rely on standalone transmission, which is good because there's no reliance on cell networks, and the quality is good... assuming you're in a city with it. (Sprint's TV, on othe other hand, uses their 3G network.)
 
As for Swisscom and the Swiss forum rumor that has apparently ballooned into "fact"... some necessary info is missing if it were to be true.

I seriously doubt they'll be including DVB-H. However, Swisscom doesn't only offer mobile video through DVB-H but also through 3G streaming. They've been working together with Vodafone on this for years. As Vodafone is also a new Apple partner, they'll probably implement their Live TV feature in many countries, including Switzerland.

I personally believe they'll be adding some streaming capability to the iPhone video player so people can watch TV on the go via the 3G network. This service has been in place for years and works reasonably well. The image quality has been relatively bad so far but if the decent Apple codecs are used, that shouldn't be much of an issue. Over HSDPA, they could possibly even stream HD video if it's sized down to the iPhones screen-size. That would open the doors for video on demand services etc. I think it'd be pretty cool if I could have video-podcasts, news, music-videos or even whole movies streamed to my iPhone when I'm on the go.

kis
 
Fantastic. Millions of property shows, 'celebrity' specials, reality TV and other rubbish that constitues mindless UK television. No thanks!
 
Thanks for the link. Google's My Location service appears to use GSM triangulation when GPS is not available, but the page you linked to makes no reference to Skyhook. The Apple case study on the Skyhook site makes no reference to Google - it implies that their client is Apple directly:
http://www.skyhookwireless.com/inaction/apple.php
That's why I suspect that Apple set up this service themselves. GPS would obviously be a better solution than Skyhook, but I wonder if Apple would have bothered with Skyhook at all if they knew they had a new model on the way featuring GPS.
This update is available to current iPhone owners, right? If so the new iPhones may still have a GPS receiver and this update is to appease the early adopters who don't want to/can't afford to replace their phone.
 
I know when the new 3G iPhone will come out.....

I do not know all specifications of the new 3G, but from 1st hand,

I DO know exactly when the new 3G iPhone will come out....

Remember my words, dear community, it will be:

Monday, 2nd June 2008

:cool:

:apple:

CaesarAugustus
from good, old Europe
 
Just browsing AT&T checking out 3G coverage in the local town and found this
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/messaging-internet/mobile-tv/
who knows- probably nothing.

It was mentioned before that the LG and the Samsung already have the mobile TV capabilities. It still doesn't say whether or not the iPhone will. Although if I have to pay $15 or $30/month for it it's not worth it. I only watch about 5 shows anyway, and I can record those with my tv tuner.
 
I wonder if 3G is fast enough to support iChat. That would be amazing indeed, and save allot of minutes!

iChat takes VERY LITTLE bandwidth (If using regular chat feature) and could easily have been implemented on the older EDGE network.

Video chat on the other hand does require more resources.
 
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