Well, close to all phones sold in Europe in the last year or so are video-conferencing capable yet still nobody uses the service. So as a matter of fact, I'd say there are at least 50 million 3G phones in use in Europe (not necessarily all on 3G networks, though). I highly doubt a couple hundred thousand iPhones are going to change the fact that video conferencing is an even bigger flop over here than mobile TV.
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3G iPhone with GPS, Video Conferences, TV?
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Well, close to all phones sold in Europe in the last year or so are video-conferencing capable yet still nobody uses the service. So as a matter of fact, I'd say there are at least 50 million 3G phones in use in Europe (not necessarily all on 3G networks, though). I highly doubt a couple hundred thousand iPhones are going to change the fact that video conferencing is an even bigger flop over here than mobile TV.
Are you sure about that? "My Location" for Google Maps was released to other handsets that could run Google maps before Apple finally updated their version (in a full firmware revision) to support it.
Thanks for the link. Google's My Location service appears to use GSM triangulation when GPS is not available, but the page you linked to makes no reference to Skyhook. The Apple case study on the Skyhook site makes no reference to Google - it implies that their client is Apple directly:
http://www.skyhookwireless.com/inaction/apple.php
That's why I suspect that Apple set up this service themselves. GPS would obviously be a better solution than Skyhook, but I wonder if Apple would have bothered with Skyhook at all if they knew they had a new model on the way featuring GPS.
Hmmmm, fair enough. Perhaps they're using a combo of both.
Never the less, I think we can both agree popping a GPS receiver in there would be a great improvement over either
Furthermore, the new iPhone needs to be top tech for atleast the next 12 months. The N95 has had GPS from the beginning, I don't think Apple can afford to be without it if they are still going to insist on charging what is a huge premium over the competition.
Hmmmm, fair enough. Perhaps they're using a combo of both.
Never the less, I think we can both agree popping a GPS receiver in there would be a great improvement over either
Furthermore, the new iPhone needs to be top tech for atleast the next 12 months. The N95 has had GPS from the beginning, I don't think Apple can afford to be without it if they are still going to insist on charging what is a huge premium over the competition.
Yup - I agree GPS would be cool. And I do believe that Apple used services from both Google and Skyhook to put their Core Location service together. But it seems every time Apple does a major product release, there's one or two features that the Mac rumor community are really looking forward to which don't get included. My instinct is that GPS may be one of these omissions. Remember that SJ is as proud of what Apple doesn't do, as he is of what they do.
3G, tv and GPS are not important to my iPhone usage at all.
I have wifi access almost everywhere I need it (although I would like 3G when I am in Scandanavia, UK or Europe)
and I have dedicated GPS units.
And I don't watch much TV.
But I would LOVE to see ALL of the above as I know many people would be very happy. And I own AAPL. LOL
I have wifi access almost everywhere I need it (although I would like 3G when I am in Scandanavia, UK or Europe)
and I have dedicated GPS units.
And I don't watch much TV.
But I would LOVE to see ALL of the above as I know many people would be very happy. And I own AAPL. LOL
Well, as said in the article Swisscom just launched a live TV service (what else do you think does "télévision mobile" mean) and they gonna bring it out of its infancy soon!
...European Championship in Soccer is coming up in Switzerland, Swisscom is national supporter and they sure want to make this a big one!
he Swisscom marketing guys must just be exited about that timing ;-)
Just read another story that tells there wont be a data flat rate :-( ...must be a joke!
More on rumored tariffs etc. (german):
http://www.macprime.ch/news/article/details-zu-den-iphone-tarifen-und-dem-launch-mit-der-swisscom/
They only put it there as a temporary fix until GPS was available. Google Maps works with GPS coordinates anyway
They only put it there as a temporary fix until GPS was available. Google Maps works with GPS coordinates anyway
Also, the location API in the SDK appears to be totally agnostic of which technology is providing positional data. So if you're writing an app you'll just end up with the best data available, which on an existing iPhone means triangulated positions from hotspots and cell towers.... and on an iPhone v2 could mean GPS.
For some reason I don't feel that they would have built this API solely for the positional data that we are currently getting that was added as an afterthought. If they want guys like salesforce.com to use positional data from the phone to build an app, it really needs to originate from a GPS source.
Nope - it should be live mobile tv - similar to dtv - like elgato eye tv but for mobiles. you may be able to record. the nokia n 96 - comming out later this year will have that functionality. - check out this you tube link. tv stuff starts at 1:15 in the vidNokia TV
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LOOK JUST SAW ON ATT.COM!!! PUSHED REFRESH AND IT WAS GONE
Nice try, but fake. 8 GB phones aren't even going to be in the equation during the next release.
Mobile TV is so silly on an iPhone. I can already put more video content on the device than I'd ever watch before syncing back up with a computer, and I don't need to have the radio on constantly while watching it!
Even after an hour of watching youtube videos the battery takes a huge hit. Te radio isn't even going the whole time! Streaming video will make the iPhone unusable for anything else
Even after an hour of watching youtube videos the battery takes a huge hit. Te radio isn't even going the whole time! Streaming video will make the iPhone unusable for anything else
so sorry if I'm repeating something already said, but currently I don't have the time to look through most of the 170 or so post on this topic. But I will mention as far as the mobile TV goes, AT&T has recently released mobile TV on select phones in select cities. Where I am from it hasn't yet been launched, but the phones that will use this have been said to be the Samsung Access and the LG Vu. Everything I have seen has limited it to those two, while it would make since to leave the iPhone out of the equation, so not to give on to too many new applications and such.
I cant wait to see all of the coll apps that Apple will add to the new iPhone that no one has mentioned yet. Then I will be dissapointed by the simple things they usually leave out.
Here's to To-Do-List synching and Color Coded Multiple Calendar Support so that iCal can be fully utilized.
If the iPhone is to really really get into the industry and completely succeed and become the dominant player, Apple is going to need to add some pretty significant stuff or else BlackBerry is just going to keep their market share and kick Apple's but.
Now... I don't think BlackBerry is going to do that. I think Apple is going to blow us away again with iPhone 2.0 and it will be a strong round 2 of the iPhone revolution that will eat away BlackBerry's market share like crazy! I would not be surprised at all to get a big surprise at WWDC
I don't see the reason to do video conferencing in a coffee place. U want to be able to show the other party what u are looking at. Like sightseeing in Miami or Paris or from the top of the Empire State bldg... Or from home talking to your girlfriend and having a naughty video conference...
I think you might like my design for the iPhone Camera App 2.0. In the top right corner it gives you a live preview of the inactive camera and to switch between the front or back camera you just touch and flip it like the album art in the iPod. Both cameras are accessible for pics, capturing video with the option to upload to .mac or YouTube, and iChat video conferencing in the iChat app. The front camera can use the screen for a flash like PhotoBooth and the back camera has a built in flash in the Apple logo. Not to toot my own horn but I think this would be a great way for Apple to implement it all that!
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It's going to be very hard to make this "a big one" considering the fact that the soccer championship is going to start in 3 weeks and there are no handsets available yet that support the DVB-H standard
Unless they give these things away for free on the street before the soccer tournament starts, nobody is going to use the service.