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3G vs. 4G...does anyone see a difference
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Pseudo "4g" & not LTE; it's no wonder you don't notice much of a change. AT&T is so awesome.
I get pretty good 3G/hspa speeds on my iPhone at home (usually 8 to 10 Mbps down and 3-4 Mbps up). Travelled in the US recently and used AT&T, couldn't believe it showed 4G for the indicator and speeds less than half of what I'm used to.
I feel for you guys who have to deal with AT&T.
I feel for you guys who have to deal with AT&T.
That'll be solved with iPhone LTE in a few weeks. Verizon, here I come.
That's an interesting thought - will a lot of AT&T who stuck around because of hspa jump to Verizon when an LTE iPhone is released?
I can't speak from an AT&T perspective, but to answer the question in general I can answer from the perspective of a T-Mobile customer. First, to clarify, no network has real 4G. That's just a marketing name. In the case of T-Mobile, what they call 4G is actually their HSPA+ network (4G sounds much nicer). Personally I noticed a difference going from a T-Mobile 3G phone to a 4G phone. The speeds are much better. I would assume AT&T is supposed to be doing the same pattern with their network in terms of 3G/4G (if we ignore LTE for the moment), however anecdotally I've heard from AT&T customers that it isn't actually any faster in terms of speed.
LTE on the other hand is actually faster, and I look forward to seeing it become the new standard.
LTE on the other hand is actually faster, and I look forward to seeing it become the new standard.
i have a verizon 4g phone, its def way faster than 3g. but, like others have said, the current iphones dont actually have 4g capability, so its only slightly faster than 3g.
i have a Verizon 4g lte droid. it is suuuuper fast. routinely hit 20+mbps download.
The only thing that changed was the indicator on the top left.
You're still getting the same speed as before.
Its a nonsense marketing trick.
And you never will.
The 4S HSPA+ GSM modem can reach max speeds of 14.4mbps. The CDMA modem forget it.
But at some places you can get 7-8mbps down with a 4S on AT&T.
I was not aware that LTE Advanced was available. Just LTE, which is not true 4G, from what little I have read.
From what I've seen, I think LTE advanced is set to debut later this year and is not currently available.
Just AT&T changing it to advertise a better network which really isn't different from before.
Before 3G stood for HSPA or HSPA+. Now "4G" logo stands for HSPA or HSPA+.
They should've kept it
4G = HSPA+
3G = HSPA
2G = EDGE
?? = GSM
Before 3G stood for HSPA or HSPA+. Now "4G" logo stands for HSPA or HSPA+.
They should've kept it
4G = HSPA+
3G = HSPA
2G = EDGE
?? = GSM
My SGS III is much faster than my iPhone 4S both on AT&T.
That's to be expected since I'm in a very strong HSPA+ area & the Galaxy is setup for it. Once the iPhone is then it will run at similar speeds.
My wife's going to switch from Verizon to AT&T since it's so much faster in our area.
That's to be expected since I'm in a very strong HSPA+ area & the Galaxy is setup for it. Once the iPhone is then it will run at similar speeds.
My wife's going to switch from Verizon to AT&T since it's so much faster in our area.
Its insane how MISINFORMED people are.
In regards to At&T, the iPhone 4 uses HSPA. The iPhone 4s uses HSPA/HSPA+. If you're in an area with HSPA+ coverage, you will see significant data speeds compared to their traditional 3G service. THAT is why some people may see a "4G" icon on their 4s, because they're in an HSPA+ area. Keep in mind, data speeds are all relative to location, coverage, traffic, etc.
Verizon currently uses LTE for 4G. AT&T operates a LTE network as well, and totes their HSPA+ network as "4G" in addition to that (Its all marketing). TECHNICALLY, the current LTE networks arent "true" 4G, due in part because data speeds are supposed to be in the 100+ mbps range, among other things. Thats not needed for phones any how. NO carrier operates an LTE Advanced network. I imagine Verizon or Sprint to be first with that. But probably Verizon, since their LTE roadmap is so far along. Sprint's Network Vision towers that they're building are LTE Advanced "Ready".
LTE is amazing. And in most cases, its MUCH faster than MOST people's home internet connections. Im talking about pulling 30-40mbps with a Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, its crazy. Just sucks that the carriers tier data. But hey, part of the blame for that is people who root/jailbreak their phones and tether!
In regards to At&T, the iPhone 4 uses HSPA. The iPhone 4s uses HSPA/HSPA+. If you're in an area with HSPA+ coverage, you will see significant data speeds compared to their traditional 3G service. THAT is why some people may see a "4G" icon on their 4s, because they're in an HSPA+ area. Keep in mind, data speeds are all relative to location, coverage, traffic, etc.
Verizon currently uses LTE for 4G. AT&T operates a LTE network as well, and totes their HSPA+ network as "4G" in addition to that (Its all marketing). TECHNICALLY, the current LTE networks arent "true" 4G, due in part because data speeds are supposed to be in the 100+ mbps range, among other things. Thats not needed for phones any how. NO carrier operates an LTE Advanced network. I imagine Verizon or Sprint to be first with that. But probably Verizon, since their LTE roadmap is so far along. Sprint's Network Vision towers that they're building are LTE Advanced "Ready".
LTE is amazing. And in most cases, its MUCH faster than MOST people's home internet connections. Im talking about pulling 30-40mbps with a Galaxy Nexus on Verizon, its crazy. Just sucks that the carriers tier data. But hey, part of the blame for that is people who root/jailbreak their phones and tether!
I really doubt that's the real reason for tiered data. They may say that, but it's all about the bottom line and profits.
Yea I think Apple is using this as a model for what the symbols mean.
LTE = LTE
4G = HSPA+
3G = HSPA
2G = E
GPRS/1X = (the little circle)
No. EDGE shows up at E, and GPRS shows up as G, on the off occasion that you see it (malfunctioning network or roaming).
Exactly what I plan to do too. I'm lucky if I get any data throughput here in DC on my "faux"-G
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GPRS definitely shows up as a little circle