every A series has been doubled? are you sure? I think the first 64bit A series gain almost double...but almost every A series wasnt doubled. Maybe only in Apple charts...but not even there (again i hope you were comparing A series from iphones to A series from next gen iphones and not iphone wtih AX ipads)
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3nm M2 Pro Chip for MacBook Pro Reportedly Entering Production Later This Year
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not a chance ...the 16.2" closed that gap
I can see the supposedly 15" Mba in works than an 17" Mbp
Not really... 17". If people go with 17", it's because they want a larger screen. So obviously most would rather have 17" over 16.2".
To say not a chance is pretty short sighted. It's not like bigger displays aren't useful or highly sought after. It's less likely just because the technology and the build gets more complicated as the device gets larger. But there are plenty of people who don't care how chonk or heavy it is, as long as they can get some display. My 16" M1 Pro is closed 99% of the time, because its better to use it connected to multiple larger displays at my desk. But when I do take it with me and work away from the desk, the display is still very very small for doing work. Not just compared to what I'm normally using, but in general. Apple can and should find a way to make a 20" MacBook Pro in the future.
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3nm vs 5nm is what that poster was getting at, and that poster is correct
3nm is a more significant development than the same 5nm process but faster clocks and more transistors (leading to more heat). It’s why M2 can have thermal issues and perform worse in some tasks or barely better than M1.
I cannot wait for the M2 Pro/Max MBPs. I’ll hopefully be buying on launch day.
Looking forward to this, if this year, awesome, if Q1 or Q2 next year, cool.
I'm hoping the MacBook Pro 14" and 16" refresh will also include HDMI 2.1, a better SD card reader, and Face ID in that notch.
I don't think the above is asking too much...if I was being unreasonable I'd wish for just 1, plain old 3.(whatever) USB type-A port, just one, please, LOL.
I'm hoping the MacBook Pro 14" and 16" refresh will also include HDMI 2.1, a better SD card reader, and Face ID in that notch.
I don't think the above is asking too much...if I was being unreasonable I'd wish for just 1, plain old 3.(whatever) USB type-A port, just one, please, LOL.
Unfortunately no Face ID Rumors yet. Ross young doesn’t expect it to be for several years yet if ever. But it would be nice wouldn’t it.
They have already done it in the past with A10 and A10X chips. (By the way, changing the technology node doesn’t mean it will be an “entirely new” architecture).
rumours suggested March for that air thing, so at least the chip shouldn't be the reason, all things equal with TSMC from now until then.
not for a power user. Its a nice machine and certainly a beast for its targeted audience but in 2008 you would get Mac Pro with a screen for amazing value. I think it was £1799 for the 8 core Mac Pro. Absolute beast for that money and amazing value for artists/pro users.
3nm SOCs will be in the mixed reality device first I bet.
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I wouldn't say M2 isn't a significant upgrade from M1. Even without switching to 3nm, the CPU performance is 12-20% faster and GPU 25-35% faster. I remember the days when Intel-based Macs boosted single digit performance improvements from one generation to the next. And M2 also offers faster memory bandwidth, larger memory capacity, and faster and more capable next generation neural engine.
But TSMC's transition from 5nm and 3nm will bring 10-15% performance boost and 25-30% lower power consumption from the process itself. Combined with other improvements from M2, it should be an impressive upgrade for those that can use the power.
How long are you willing to wait? It could be a year or more before those models are updated. Apple will release MacBooks first.
The model I actually want is an iMac. Which... according to rumors is at least also a year from now.
I don't know. I have an M1 iMac right now. I can wait, but I really need a powerhouse out of a computer, and M1 isn't for me, especially not the config I took (I knew it was temporary).
What other improvements do you expect from the M2 MacBook Pros?
I assume most of the kinks will be addressed, such as flaky MagSafe charging when the lid is closed and slow SD transfer speed.
I also hope to see even higher memory capacity (up to 96GB), longer battery life, and smaller GaN charger (so far, only 35W and 140W are). I would also like to see support for Wi-Fi 6E, HDMI 2.1, and Bluetooth 5.2.
I assume most of the kinks will be addressed, such as flaky MagSafe charging when the lid is closed and slow SD transfer speed.
I also hope to see even higher memory capacity (up to 96GB), longer battery life, and smaller GaN charger (so far, only 35W and 140W are). I would also like to see support for Wi-Fi 6E, HDMI 2.1, and Bluetooth 5.2.
I wonder how much of the existing M2 logic needed to be tweaked to work with the new process node.
Moving to a new process node usually involves some changes. So this M2 Pro might be *more* different than the M2, in comparison to the M1 and M1 Pro.
It does suggest that THIS year, there will be a bigger performance gap between the M and M-Pro lines than before.
Hopefully there will be an M2 Pro iMac and Mac mini to join the MBP 14" using these, what are likely to be, awesome chips.
Moving to a new process node usually involves some changes. So this M2 Pro might be *more* different than the M2, in comparison to the M1 and M1 Pro.
It does suggest that THIS year, there will be a bigger performance gap between the M and M-Pro lines than before.
Hopefully there will be an M2 Pro iMac and Mac mini to join the MBP 14" using these, what are likely to be, awesome chips.
I doubt it. M2 architecture is already created for 5nm+ so making them with 3nm is quite impossible. Moreover, did Apple ever make chips with a same architecture but two different nm? As long as I can tell, Apple didnt.