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3nm M2 Pro Chip for MacBook Pro Reportedly Entering Production Later This Year
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Technically the Max is the fastest single chip, while the Ultra is two Max chips.
No one is telling you that because no one has that information.
Sure, if they just turn their brains off completely at that point and decide to keep extrapolating that out to absurdity for some unimaginable reason.
You guys....
3 Nanometer <<<< 3NM!! 😮
We are officially living in thee future. THREE future.
3 Nanometer <<<< 3NM!! 😮
We are officially living in thee future. THREE future.
I desperately needed an M1 Ultra for some important projects I'm working on, and it almost already repaid itself, however I'll probably trade it in for an M2 Ultra refresh, as the M1 Ultra still isn't powerful enough for my workflow (I know it sounds ridiculous, but I need more GPU power).
I just hope I can recover a third of the price with the trade-in.
I just hope I can recover a third of the price with the trade-in.
Many years ago I used a PowerBook G4 17". I think that the bezels are so big on that one, that Apple could even make the screen 18", without making the computer bigger. Maybe the MBP 17" was smaller than the PBG4.
Our family finally gave up. And so did our iMac. So we recently took delivery of a refurbished Mac Studio as the family computer and my husband’s home office work computer.
I wouldn’t mind a 17” MB Air either. LG has proven successful with their 3 lb. 17” Gram. So it can be done.
The Pro is also pretty low-end. Only the Mx is lower end than Mx Pro. Mx Mac, Mx Ultra and Mx Extreme are all more high-end than the Pro.
The Pro's CPU cores are the same as the Max's. They're not "low-end".
So a spring event to showcase the 3nm chips it is. This will put even more distance between the Macbook Pro (14 & 16 inch models) and the current Macbook Air.
Ehats the point of having 2 different M2 models 5nm and 3nm , beyond the pro-max-ultra-extremme enhancements?
I mean, wouldnt M2 3nm be further from M2 5nm in lerformance and thermal ETC than the M2 5nm is from the M1??
A 3nm version of M2 would be a bit confusing for users
I mean, wouldnt M2 3nm be further from M2 5nm in lerformance and thermal ETC than the M2 5nm is from the M1??
A 3nm version of M2 would be a bit confusing for users
Quite. The post you were replying to is one of the stupidest things I’ve read in years.
You'd be surprised at how inflation affects things: the last-ever 17" MBP was from 2011 and started at 2500$ USD, which ends up as a whopping 3290$ USD in today's money! For comparison, the 2021 base model 16" M1 MBP starts at 2500$ USD, which puts it as 76% of the price of the 17" when accounting for inflation.
The 30" ACD was last updated in 2006 and sold for $3299 USD, which in today's money is a whopping ~$4850 USD, covering the cost of two 27" 5K Studio Displays and being within spitting distance of the $4999 USD Pro Display XDR.
Only the base 2008 Mac Pro you mentioned is cheaper than the current base model after accounting for inflation.
3nm lithography. This is crazy. I remember the 65nm Intel Core Duo series.
After the failure of the current base M2's Apple has no choice but to step it up. The M2 MacBook airs have no reason exist. They should have waited for 3nm.
Yea, TSMC almost seems to be playing with competitors.
Like a Cat does with a Mouse.
Competition drives innovation. Hopefully TSMC’s competition will emerge in the next 5 years.
It’s entertaining to remember back to Apples announcement to transition completely to TSMC Apple Silicon and all the negative energy.
Based on this table from Anton Shilov at Anandtech summarizing TSMC's advertising claims, it looks like the N3-based M2 will have a 10-15% per-core performance boost over the current N5-based M2 (assuming Apple uses the node change for performance rather than efficiency, i.e., keeps the per-core power usage the same). So, assuming Apple does this, and TSMC's figures are accurate, expect an SC Geekbench score of 2100–2200.
I suppose Apple could increase that by upping the clock speeds on the M2 Pro/Max/Ultra over the 3.5 GHz on the base M2, but they didn't do that with the M1 (the clock speeds on all the M1 chips are the same--3.2 GHz). Then again, maybe the M2 microarchitecture has a better performance curve.
Source: https://www.anandtech.com/show/17469/tsmc-first-n2-node-to-use-gaafets-skip-backside-power
I suppose Apple could increase that by upping the clock speeds on the M2 Pro/Max/Ultra over the 3.5 GHz on the base M2, but they didn't do that with the M1 (the clock speeds on all the M1 chips are the same--3.2 GHz). Then again, maybe the M2 microarchitecture has a better performance curve.
Source: https://www.anandtech.com/show/17469/tsmc-first-n2-node-to-use-gaafets-skip-backside-power
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