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Think about it! Job's is not an idiot. iPod worked because he sold them to everyone, not just the wealthy.

Okay, first of all, iPod was like 399 when it first came out. Secondly, don't ever apostrophe Steve Jobs' name like that. It looks weird and shouldn't have an apostrophe in that sentence anyway.
 
Those data plans are for BB's and Data cards. For phones it is 15-25 bucks. And that gets you EVDO speeds. If you don't have an EVDO phone you can pay 10 bucks (like I do) and get unlimited EDGE-like speed. The only reason why I haven't left Sprint is cause you basically can make your own contract through retentions with them. Most people on sprintusers.com have plans with crazy minutes and free stuff for like 30-40 bucks. I just recently have switched over to a family plan and have been told that I have unlimited text on both phones for 15 bucks (which is 15 bucks cheaper than they would like to charge me).

I looked at AT&T's plans and it would cost me about the same to switch to them, but I hear you can't work out great deals through retentions with them. I do want the iPhone and am fighting the usual urge to just pick it up when it comes out.

On topic: Does anyone think the existing iPod adapters for cars (um, like the one for my Pioneer radio) will work with the iPhone?

Yeah I am with Sprint (also on sprintusers.com) and I love Sprint. They will soon have the BEST data network in the country when they roll out the wimax network. Tis gonna be sweet indeed, sad the iPhone could not be on that network or even the EVDO network now. As far as plans go, I have a SERO plan with Sprint...49.99/month 1250 anytime minutes, unlimited sprint to sprint, unlimited data, unlimites nights and weekends, 10 bucks for unlimited text, and i get 500 extra anytime minutes FREE. so 1750 for 50 bucks. My bill is usually low 70's. O and I have a Smartphone, so I use a crap load of data.

Retentions at sprint is great. Either way...whatever, I just think it is sad to see people bash sprint when they may not know otherwise. Don't be close minded.

On Topic: Invisible Shields would be the way I would go. It so pretty of a phone, why hide it? But it would suck major to drop it....ouch!
 
Look cheap

Yeah... I'm going to spend $600 on the iPHONE and then buy a cheap looking PLEATHER case for it? Think again. :rolleyes: I think I'm going to wait for the "Members Only" iPhone accessories. :D
 
i've 'gone commando' with my iPod and now it has soooo many scratches and dints that if you ever see it, you'll know it's mine

call me a philistine if u will, but i plan on doing the same with my iPhone, it's there to be used, not to protected in case you may want to sell it for a collectable later on
 
Probably about 80-90 bucks. I know it's a broad range, but since plans won't be "exotic", they won't deviate from the current norm (39.99 for 450 anytime and 5k night/weekend, 29.99 smartphone max: unlim data 1500 sms = ~70.00 without taxes and fees, usually 15 bucks).

It just depends on whether they classify it as a PDA or not, and since it's offering POP, full email, visual voicemail (which is most likely adds to the price) and other stuff, it's gonna be significant.

As for cases, how many of the people saying they won't need a case have ever had a touchscreen PDA/Phone? It becomes a much more tactile device when it's touchscreen and is a lot more prone to dropping, so whether or not it is made of glass, there is a LOT more surface area to pay attention and that can get scratched. It has a lot more functions, so you can't really compare it to an iPod. With an iPod, you aren't poking and prodding it as much.

Also, someone else said it first but nobody should ever have anything attached to their belt unless they are a super hero or a mechanic/construction worker.

Well I'm not a mechanic / construction worker so must be a super hero and loving it.
 
Supposedly, Apple Stores will be selling the Jawbone starting on the 29th ( http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/06/18/jawbone/index.php ) . So I'm guessing that the :apple: headset will be slightly cheaper, and include the dock (that I thought was going to come 'with' the phone, but maybe it is an upgraded dock - with the charger for the BT headset, or maybe ... I'm tired of guessing... but my thinking was going along the lines of 'but if you want the dock, you might as well get the :apple: headset too' ... sort of blur the actual cost of either item technique...)

4+ days...
I don't think the BT headset is likely to come with a dock, but it may be priced at $129 as rumored and be better than the Jawbone.
 
No one wants to pay $4/day for a phone, not even an iPhone. The price is the final unbelievable feature. That is why Verizon passed. Apple low balled ATT to get them to think long term and market share.

Apple ][ Forever!

That's a lotta hopin'! I wouldn't expect that much from apple - so that I won't get disappointed. :)
 
i just got off the phone with my cousin's friend on my half sister's side that has a friend that works at ATT. The service plan according to her will be a gajillion dollars per week and discussion of it doesn't belong in this thread.
 
I don't think the BT headset is likely to come with a dock, but it may be priced at $129 as rumored and be better than the Jawbone.

I guess I've just been reading too much online - don't know where I saw the suggestion that the dock might not come with the phone.. but I put it together with this... http://notes.thinksecret.com/secretnotes/0706iphonedocknote.shtml

OH - and that would have been my other theory they would price the BT headset slightly higher than the jawbone because it is 'better'
 
BKKBill: when do you think the iphone might come to thailand? am i right in thinking that AIS have EDGE but there's no 3G?
 
Also, someone else said it first but nobody should ever have anything attached to their belt unless they are a super hero or a mechanic/construction worker.

Exactly. It invites either muggings or ridicule. The latter, perhaps, being the worse.

I always play the how-many-business-men-can-I-spot-with-a-cheesy-belt-clip-phone-on-their-belt game when I'm at airports. That game is rapidly evolving into the spot-the-guy-who-thinks-he's-a-robot-because-he-is-permanently-wearing-his-stupid-bluetooth-earpiece game.

0 cool points for both items.

Now that's just silly. Where else would I put my gadgets? I save my pockets for my hands. Hands in pockets, now that's cool. +100 cool points per hand. :rolleyes:

I'm hoping for $500 or $600 that it comes with some kind of case...

Why? It's scratchproof, remember? Or is that scratch-resistant?

:) cell phone rates sure are expensive in the US.

Privilege we pay to live here. FLAME ON! :D

He obviously doesn't like Non-Governmental Organizations :)

Read that three times before I got it. What does that say about me? :eek:

i just got off the phone with my cousin's friend on my half sister's side that has a friend that works at ATT. The service plan according to her will be a gajillion dollars per week and discussion of it doesn't belong in this thread.

Your sarcasm has been noted and your request filed. Nothing else to see here, move along.
 
Its right there, chief :)

Personally, I don't know how they do it...I mean if you "underutilize" your minutes for just one month, you pretty much cannot go over. My wife informed me yesterday that i currently have about 4000+ rollover minutes.

And After being a customer on Sprint, Verizon and T-Mobile in the past, there is no way I could ever consider a voice plan where I don't get my minutes back. Its just archaic and inconceivable to me (yes, personal opinion) that if i only use 700mins out of a thousand, I don't get 1000+300 the next month.

Now...I will say that free T-mob hotspot access is pretty nice...but i've been giving them $30/month for this for awhile anyway...because they are everywhere i travel.

What gets me tho, is well...what kind of incomes are we talking about here for folks that plan to pay $600 for a phone, but only have $30 to spend to talk on it? :)

And you know, looking at it from ATTs POV...sure they could sell it with no data plan, and you know, charge like $5 meg if you even try it. And you know people will piss and moan when they get that first bill because they HAD to try it "just this one time" blah blah blah.

Anyway, I guess you aren't getting an iPhone, because you aren't getting 1000 mins and 'data forever' from att for 30 bucks :)

More for everyone else, I suppose :)

Oh yeah.

All of those cases are "meh". Personally, unless I have to, I'm not planning on removing my phone from whatever pocket or whatever its in; my ego is well-formed enough where i don't need the universe to gawk at my phone ;)

I agree with you keeping the minutes YOU PAID FOR makes a heck of a lot of sense. It's even greater since you have accumulated 4000+ minutes over time. Mine wouldn't be as high as, seriously, I use most of the minutes afforded me. Not every month but mostly. I'll probably develop some brain tumor from all the "celluar" electrons beaming into my head anyway so the discussion is probably mute anyways.

I'd rather not pay 500 - 600 for a phone. But I love Apple, never owned a PC, and Apple prices have always been at a premium then for the PC crowd but you get more and better quality for what you pay.

"Anyway, I guess you aren't getting an iPhone, because you aren't getting 1000 mins and 'data forever' from att for 30 bucks :)"

Don't count me out just yet! I have yet to buy an iPod and would love to not have to carry around two gadgets. I'm just whinning that I'd rather pay AT&T 30 bucks and forget the 'data forever' portion of it. I don't need it from AT&T and I don't need it from Apple's iPhone even though it's there cuz there is only one model phone to choose from and hopefully a variety of AT&T minute plans and AT&T minute and data plans to choose from, is all.

But nice going back and forth with you. Enjoy your iPhone! And take care of it when it's in your pocket. Remember the shuffle with the clip on it's back that got bent out of shape when some people sat down with it in their pocket.

And to everyone else, sorry I'm not discussing iPhone cases, just not interested in what's for real and what's hopeful and what's fake with regard to iPhone cases.

Take Care All on June 29th and don't get crushed from any iPhone riots.:eek:
 
$129 is pretty standard. You can get the cheap ones for less, but there is a clear difference between the quality of these products (and I'm not just talking materials, but performance, where it really matters). Trust me, I've got a cheap one and it's barely usable at times.

Amen to that, I've got a 79$ moto btooth headset and no one can ever hear me talk on it.
 
Man they sure do take the slim sleek look and destroy it. ill be buying one anyway just to keep that wonderful device saafe from mr. floor
 
Its right there, chief :)

Personally, I don't know how they do it...I mean if you "underutilize" your minutes for just one month, you pretty much cannot go over. My wife informed me yesterday that i currently have about 4000+ rollover minutes.

And After being a customer on Sprint, Verizon and T-Mobile in the past, there is no way I could ever consider a voice plan where I don't get my minutes back. Its just archaic and inconceivable to me (yes, personal opinion) that if i only use 700mins out of a thousand, I don't get 1000+300 the next month.

Now...I will say that free T-mob hotspot access is pretty nice...but i've been giving them $30/month for this for awhile anyway...because they are everywhere i travel.

What gets me tho, is well...what kind of incomes are we talking about here for folks that plan to pay $600 for a phone, but only have $30 to spend to talk on it? :)

And you know, looking at it from ATTs POV...sure they could sell it with no data plan, and you know, charge like $5 meg if you even try it. And you know people will piss and moan when they get that first bill because they HAD to try it "just this one time" blah blah blah.

Anyway, I guess you aren't getting an iPhone, because you aren't getting 1000 mins and 'data forever' from att for 30 bucks :)

More for everyone else, I suppose :)

Oh yeah.

All of those cases are "meh". Personally, unless I have to, I'm not planning on removing my phone from whatever pocket or whatever its in; my ego is well-formed enough where i don't need the universe to gawk at my phone ;)

It's more accurate to say that you get [Number of Minutes Monthly]*12 per year. Rollover expires yearly, not sure if It's a rolling year tho.
 
Two words, friend: Invisible. Shield.
Or Crystal. Film.
Whichever two words you prefer.

Indeed. :D The number of people who use ugly, bulky cases on their ipods amazes me, given that there's a relatively cheap, effective, nearly-invisible alternative.

I've already preordered the IS for my iphone. :)
 
It's more accurate to say that you get [Number of Minutes Monthly]*12 per year. Rollover expires yearly, not sure if It's a rolling year tho.

Yea.. it's a rolling or fiscal year type of thing. I'll be losing my accumulated minutes from last June, come July 1st. If I had that many rollover minutes piled up, which is pretty unlikely.

You always have 12 months of rollover minutes. At least that was the story when I worked for Cingular, about 5 years ago.

I usually carry about one extra months worth of minutes on my plan, due to rollover.

Nice.

This is why I read someone mention that his Cingular bill is always the same, unlike his experience with other carriers. Those customers that would go over their limit with Cingular were the ones that fell for the, "Should I spend another $10 or $20 on this plan to be sure?" and didn't. The answer is almost always, "Yes, you should". It will save your a** every time. Sure beats the extra $100 or more "surprise" that the other carriers offer at the end of the month.
 
Indeed. :D The number of people who use ugly, bulky cases on their ipods amazes me, given that there's a relatively cheap, effective, nearly-invisible alternative.

I've already preordered the IS for my iphone. :)

Friend of mine had me apply the invisible shield on his 5G iPod. I think it's hideious, makes it look like the thing is still sealed...

My iPod nano (2nd gen) is really beat up by now. The corners are all blank metal and I got bad scratches on the clickwheel. But I like the feel of metal in my hand and don't want to degrade the beaut, usability and thickness of that thing. I have a protective sticker on the display tho. Nasty scratches on the sticker :D
 
:) cell phone rates sure are expensive in the US.

that's because our country can afford it...

Friend of mine had me apply the invisible shield on his 5G iPod. I think it's hideious, makes it look like the thing is still sealed...

My iPod nano (2nd gen) is really beat up by now. The corners are all blank metal and I got bad scratches on the clickwheel. But I like the feel of metal in my hand and don't want to degrade the beaut, usability and thickness of that thing. I have a protective sticker on the display tho. Nasty scratches on the sticker :D

i have a hard time believing this. i have installed the invisible shield on many electronic devices of mine, not just my ipod. hands down one of the best (if not THE best) device protector on the market. you must not have installed it correctly, are talking about a different product, or are just plain blind.

i already have an invisible shield pre-ordered for my iphone. wouldn't have it any other way. how can anyone justify buying one of these tacky rubber/leather cases?? and hide apple's genius engineering? you better be ashamed of yourselves. invisible shield or nothing
 
iPhone wimax

will future iPhone support wimax???
we will have wimax here in Hanoi this October, isn't it sweet to safari anytime, anywhere??
 
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