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4.7-Inch iPhone to Feature Wireless Charging Next Year
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I don't know what point you're making... again, my point is that wireless charging which requires you to use a 15W+ charger to charge a phone at decent speeds while physically touching the charging pad, would likely require an enormous amount of energy to charge a phone at comparable speeds over distances of 10 feet or more, which is what people in this thread are hoping Apple did.
Also, amperage is one half of the equation. Quick charging uses lower amperage but higher voltage to charge devices more quickly.
Dear Dear Dear me.
Using wifi sync as some kind of justification as to why everything is ready to go completely wireless is not only misinformed but it isnt even a cogent argument. Wifi sync requires the iOS device to be plugged into a power source for it to work, hardly some end to end wireless solution is it? No different than plugging your lighting to USB cable into a computer.
The idea of wifi sync was not to allow somebody to sync their data completely wirelessly it was to mimic the automated back up process that somebody would get with iCloud backup for users that wanted to back up to a hard drive.
Split hairs about the nuances of the rest of it as much as you like but there just isn't the support in place for phones/tablets/laptops without ports. Its just isn't going to happen any time soon.
Mac 128
macrumors 603
Again wrong, and making sweeping, baseless, and unsupported claims, in a patronizing manner, as usual. Moving goal posts and debating a strawman is not my idea of fun. Have a good one.
You responded to my post about efficiency and changed the topic to talk about the efficiency of charging at distance which no phone maker is introducing so I fail to see the relevance.
Fast Wireless charging 15W
IPhone slow charging 12W
That takes into account voltage. I used a figure of 5V to convert that to amps.
You could display your calculations as to which uses more power for a single charge cycle...
My point is why be bothered about saving 3% of dollar or so it costs to power a phone for a year compared buying more efficient devices when they need replacing such as your hot water heater. You'd save more in 1 day that you would over the life of the phone, again keep things in perspective
jshulman10
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M.PaulCezanne
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Jony's a designer and Timmy's a profit hound. It's unfortunately obvious why Apple is going down this path. There is no idea person left on the executive team. They're no longer focused on innovation. Instead, they're becoming a window dressed Microsoft, focused on squeezing profits out of artificial refresh schedules and foreign production efficiencies (i.e., cheap labor).
Jony is a pretty good designer, so at least the window dressing is nice. As long as you're willing to pay for design and not truly valuable innovation.
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They abandoned devs a long time ago. This is now a purely consumer/volume/marketing/stock-value company. Pump the brand, raise the price, lower the production costs and squeeze the profits. Cook will ride the wave until the end (next year).
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It isn't easy with the iPhone 6, I have to fumble to put mine on its stand in low light. A pad is infinitely easier.
Also when connecting my phone in my car, I'd much rather put it in a stand that I don't have to connect a cable to the phone, much easier with wireless charging.
So I'm assuming when Apple add wireless charging in the 8, you'll not use it?[/QUOTE]
I have an SE, so maybe that's easier, as the phone sits in a dip.
I have already said that in car is a specific use case that is advantageous.
If I get a new phone this year, and it comes with a charging mat or similar which is efficient, then why wouldn't I use it?
If its an optional extra I need to buy, I probably wouldn't bother to be honest. Actually, I might if I needed a new dock anyway.
if it works as has been rumoured, ie with the phone just within reasonable distance of a charging source, then I definitely would. (But possibly have that in the lounge, and a dock in my office.)
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Um, what are my bad purchases exactly?
Regarding your second paragraph, would you care to say what that belief is actually based on? Something I said before, or are you just talking BS?
It isn't easy with the iPhone 6, I have to fumble to put mine on its stand in low light. A pad is infinitely easier.
Also when connecting my phone in my car, I'd much rather put it in a stand that I don't have to connect a cable to the phone, much easier with wireless charging.
So I'm assuming when Apple add wireless charging in the 8, you'll not use it?[/QUOTE]
I have an SE, so maybe that's easier, as the phone sits in a dip.
I have already said that in car is a specific use case that is advantageous.
If I get a new phone this year, and it comes with a charging mat or similar which is efficient, then why wouldn't I use it?
If its an optional extra I need to buy, I probably wouldn't bother to be honest. Actually, I might if I needed a new dock anyway.
if it works as has been rumoured, ie with the phone just within reasonable distance of a charging source, then I definitely would. (But possibly have that in the lounge, and a dock in my office.)
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Um, what are my bad purchases exactly?
Regarding your second paragraph, would you care to say what that belief is actually based on? Something I said before, or are you just talking BS?
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bladerunner2000
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So because I don't own you think means I don't know all of it's pros and many more cons? What kind of logic is that?
Funny how comments like these have completely changed since the iPhone 8/X came out. Now everyone is praising the mat-based wireless charging like it's the best feature ever.
I have an X, no intention of ever getting a wireless charger.
My opinion hasn’t changed.
No, I haven’t changed my stand. Apple’s wireless charging pad will probably be as popular as the iPhone dock, ie most people won’t know or be bothered with it. Now that doesn’t mean it’s not a great product. But it won’t suddenly make wireless charging something that everybody has.
Juicy Box
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I haven't seen too many people on the forum praising the inductive charging, although I am sure there are plenty of people that like it.
Did any of the people you quoted actually change their views on it? Or did you just find those posts at random and say that people changed their opinion on the inductive charging?
You would probably have a better result quoting Phil Schiller.
dannyyankou
macrumors P6
Funny how people can quote people who once said something, and try to make out they have changed their tune by pointing out that different people have since said something different.
You appear to have quoted us suggesting we have since posted to say that we think 'mat-based wireless charging is the best feature ever.' If you want to argue that we have all since changed our mind, you really need to show where we have. Good luck with that....
I'm pretty sure I still don't see that much additional benefit in putting a phone on a mat compared to putting it on a dock. Especially if the phone has a glass back, and so should really be in a case, meaning you'd have to take the case off to charge it on a mat.
You can't just quote people who once said something, and then quote different people saying the opposite at a different time, and argue that the original people are now saying something different.
(Not to say there aren't good use case scenarios - cars being the most obvious examples. Or public areas where it would be possible to charge more devices more easily.)
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As one of the people you quoted, I still don't care about it so I haven't changed my tune. I haven't praised it at all.
Markoth
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No, I still think it sucks. Where do you get these comments from, bro? I do think it’s better than wired, but not as good as a full wireless electricity system they could have waited for.