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40% of iPhone Users Plan to Buy iPhone SE 3, Survey Indicates
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iPhone SE 3 means I will be looking to buy my dad an iPhone SE 2 for cheap. My dad has no interest in new phones. So, I just buy him decent enough phones for little money. He's currently rocking the first SE. The SE 2 will seem like a huge upgrade to him with the bigger screen.
Yo, MacRumors, you apparently didnt get the memo.
It’s really bold to talk about „iPhone owners“, no matter the survey and source, and only mean people from the US. State that in your title, please. It’s really hard to take you serious sometimes. You know it’s not only a sensational title, but an incorrect one, too.
It’s really bold to talk about „iPhone owners“, no matter the survey and source, and only mean people from the US. State that in your title, please. It’s really hard to take you serious sometimes. You know it’s not only a sensational title, but an incorrect one, too.
A number of things to consider regarding this survey (and the summarization in the article, which didn't evaluate the survey's approach).
1. The source is a used device marketplace. Hyping new product sales theoretically would be good for business -- since it would put more existing product into the resale channel. Not saying this is absolutely a conflict of interest in terms of the veracity of the study, but one should be aware when considering the source.
2. The survey itself references the 2020 SE sales as an indicator of what one would expect from the 2022 sales. The survey results note a CIRP study with the comment that 2020 SE sales represented nearly 25% of "all iPhone sales." If you look at that study however, you would see the figure is 22% (which is closer to 20 than 25) and more importantly, it was 22% of sales that particular quarter. Given the SE is launched off-cycle from the other flagship phones, it's not a surprise that it would see a spike in popularity specifically during the quarter of its launch -- and well into the existing sales cycle of the other devices.
3. What would be more pertinent is what % of sales does the SE represent of total annual iPhone sales. And one could argue that in that comparison, you would combine iPhone 12 with 13, 12 Pro with 13 Pro, etc., as they represent specific model types and price points that change during the year after which the SE is launched. But this point certainly can be debated, since often Apple leaves the prior mainstream device in the market (i.e., you can still buy an iPhone 11 today).
All that being said, it does appear the 2020 SE was a quite popular phone, and presumably the 2022 will be as well, as it will be the lowest-cost entry point into he iOS phone ecosystem -- and given Apple's history of supporting those devices for years post-introduction.
Just a reminder to apply some independent thinking to headlines you read and to get behind the numbers a bit.
1. The source is a used device marketplace. Hyping new product sales theoretically would be good for business -- since it would put more existing product into the resale channel. Not saying this is absolutely a conflict of interest in terms of the veracity of the study, but one should be aware when considering the source.
2. The survey itself references the 2020 SE sales as an indicator of what one would expect from the 2022 sales. The survey results note a CIRP study with the comment that 2020 SE sales represented nearly 25% of "all iPhone sales." If you look at that study however, you would see the figure is 22% (which is closer to 20 than 25) and more importantly, it was 22% of sales that particular quarter. Given the SE is launched off-cycle from the other flagship phones, it's not a surprise that it would see a spike in popularity specifically during the quarter of its launch -- and well into the existing sales cycle of the other devices.
3. What would be more pertinent is what % of sales does the SE represent of total annual iPhone sales. And one could argue that in that comparison, you would combine iPhone 12 with 13, 12 Pro with 13 Pro, etc., as they represent specific model types and price points that change during the year after which the SE is launched. But this point certainly can be debated, since often Apple leaves the prior mainstream device in the market (i.e., you can still buy an iPhone 11 today).
All that being said, it does appear the 2020 SE was a quite popular phone, and presumably the 2022 will be as well, as it will be the lowest-cost entry point into he iOS phone ecosystem -- and given Apple's history of supporting those devices for years post-introduction.
Just a reminder to apply some independent thinking to headlines you read and to get behind the numbers a bit.
I'll wager that, if it were even a random sample, most respondents read the question as asking whether they planned to buy a new iPhone in 2022, any iPhone.
That is, not whether they would buy the specific model mentioned — iPhone SE 2022 — which the average iPhone user probably doesn't even know is imminent!
I've started a poll for MR readers in the iPhone forum, so we can see what “real” results would be!
Encourage everyone to vote!
That is, not whether they would buy the specific model mentioned — iPhone SE 2022 — which the average iPhone user probably doesn't even know is imminent!
I've started a poll for MR readers in the iPhone forum, so we can see what “real” results would be!
Encourage everyone to vote!
Apple makes a bigger phone with a bigger battery in the 13 for those who want a split down the middle between features and cost. For those most interested in saving money while still enjoying the overall iPhone experience, the SE is there.
We got my 67 yo mom the SE last year and she absolutely loves it. Never once has she had cause to complain about battery life because it suits her usage patterns perfectly.
Sounds like you just need a different iPhone.
I both agree and disagree. Yes, at the moment, 5G is a gimmick. However, I'm seeing that 5G rollout will be more swift as many carriers/countries are actually shutting down 3G sooner than we would think. Carriers in my country are already planning to shutdown 3G this/next year, despite 4G coverage is still not as wide. With 4G being oversaturated already, 5G will be quite important as more and more people have more and more cellular devices. So I can see 5G not being a gimmick in shorter time than we would think.
We can see this as Android OEMs are racing to release cheap 5G handsets as quick as possible. Many OEMs already have 5G capable smartphones at the $200 price point last year, dual SIM 5G to boot. Imo 5G will end up having a much faster rollout than 4G, both handsets and carriers.
Note: I'm referring to 5G sub6, not mmWave. Imo US is having challenging 5G rollout due to focusing on mmWave, which has a lot of limitations.
That's more users than planned to buy the iPhone 13 Mini. Who knew people would be interested in a phone with: Snappy A15 Chip, less frustrating TouchID, more than half the price of Apple's current offerings?
I may be wrong. I don't know the reason but it seems that the camera of my 6S+ was able to take nicer looking photos few years ago than now. Could this be Apple degrading it via software upgrade to make customers buying new ones?
I think the issue is that they need to make a smaller phone with a longer battery. I shouldn’t need an iPad mini just to get a whole day of battery. I wish they would adjust the battery to ensure that all models have the same life expectancy. The only difference when buying an iPhone should be screen size.
That being said, the iPhone mini is a great option So long as you have 24 month upgrades and not 30. I am already at 84% battery health and I am beginning to feel it.
I‘ve never heard of that. My assumption without seeing photos would be that your focus is out of wack.
To our OP or host of this article please put pertinent information from your source! Everything is in context:
That's what the 40% of iPhone users represents! NOT 40% of all iPhone users!!
I was so sad had to go with the 13 over the mini. I prefer the small phone but the battery life on my 12 mini was abysmal. 6 months in my battery capacity was at 89% and Apple said it was within normal range after view my phone stats. 
and honestly I didn’t REALLY care about the capacity, but my phone was near dead by 5-6pm every day. I suspect outlook has a little to do with it but it’s not an option for me to change settings.
and honestly I didn’t REALLY care about the capacity, but my phone was near dead by 5-6pm every day. I suspect outlook has a little to do with it but it’s not an option for me to change settings.
I'll agree on gimmick.
Regarding not seeing it on your iPhone - that depends on your service plan (SOCs on the carrier), or your SIM card (may need to be upgraded or info from the switch pushed/pulled to update the SIM card) or both. Then again could be your location, should be available yet possibly not?
I'm not sure if I would call it a "gimmick" as I won't pretend to know anything technical about it.
But anecdotally, we just switched from T-Mobile to Verizon, going from iphone 8s to iphone 13s. There is a verizon 5g tower literally on our block.
Despite the proximity to a 5g tower, our cell service is MUCH worse than with our old, "inferior" T-Mobile LTE. I can hardly manage a connection in our basement being lucky to have one bar. Standing on our block a mere 25 yeards from the tower we get 2 bars. I had full service in our basement with our old plan. I have no idea why it's like this, but I am quite a bit underwhelmed.
If you use tethering a lot and deal with big file transfers daily, it's definitely not a Gimmick.
For regular phone based stuff it really makes zero difference.
It IS much faster than LTE (400+Mbps vs 50 max) if the 5G is decent in your area.
I have my doubts. The iPhone 11 is actually a very nice phone, but only really lacking the OLED panel and 3GPP NR 5G support.