Never....Ever......understood why Apple calls something that makes working on your watch "easier"....Complications!!! Something so obvious to being wrongly named shows how out of touch Apple is with it's GUIs! I don't want to use anything on a Apple product that is complicated!! Even if it's just in the name!! RIP steve!
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No, I thought it was more exciting because it added LTE. The addition of LTE COMPLETELY CHANGED how some people use their Apple Watch. It enabled so many things that just couldn't be done before. A slightly larger screen and slightly higher resolution is an improvement, sure, but it's not going to completely change how anyone uses the watch like the addition of LTE did.
I get that you're excited to go from Series 0 to 4, but most of the improvements you'll notice aren't exclusive or new to the Series 4. Coming from the Series 0, even the Series 3 would get you a much faster watch, much better battery life, new faces, and a bunch of new features.
Maybe Apple will come out and surprise us with something huge that hasn't leaked yet, but I doubt it. Apple events are never exciting anymore because everything has always completely leaked by the time the event is near.
Yeah I thought about drawing up something like this because it didn't make sense in my head. Even people in the comments were telling me "In the story it says 345…" like that's the final number. I did end up seeing this later after I posted my comment when I was on their site and was going to share it over here but was too busy, so thanks for putting it here so people can see what I'm talking about. Haven't checked their work but seems about right.A commenter in 9to5's thread has the same thought as you.
He said: "This is how it would look like with 345PPI. So the Watch needs to be taller, or higher PPI, or you got the wrong resolution." To be fair, 9to5 did state they were guessing, but people seem to be taking that 345PPI as gospel not a guess.
The Series 3 can already make a phone call independently from the iPhone.
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But you know where the name came from, right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complication_(horology)
It's not something Apple has come up with, it's a traditional term for features on a timepiece that has been in use for hundreds of years.
That is literally what I wrote in what you quoted. Did you even read what I wrote? No, no you did not read what I wrote.
1440x900 is the point size. It's 2880x1800 @2X. On a 15" machine, most people aren't going to want their UI to be any smaller. But as I said before and you failed to read, it would be nice if we could have the option. I just don't think Apple wants to deal with the price and possible lag of putting a 4320 pixel display into a laptop. A good interim solution would be to offer 1680x1050 @2X, which is 3360x2100. I quite enjoyed that UI point scale on my 2011 MBP. Everything was a bit smaller but it was more usable for getting work done. Perhaps they could offer it BTO like they did back then. I'd pay an extra $200-300 to get that no problem. But right now I'm in the market for a desktop. I'm finding that an iPad Pro is useful for a lot of my mobile needs and I get most of my work done when at a desk these days. Back when I was in college I loved having a MBP, and it's useful at work for going to meetings, but for my own personal device I just don't think I need one now and would rather have 5K and more power.
How can I find more about the battery program? I also have a OG series with battery issue but I am out of warranty.
There is little evidence to suggest that. I have aligned the images in photoshop of the height along the right side and even though they are taken from a slightly different side perspective (a little from below and more from the side on the newer watch), the button height is the same. I did this by aligning the right side, and then shifting it down slightly to account for the lower angle so that the buttons are overlaid and you can see they are the same size. If anything the crown may be slightly higher because of the new mic hole, but it's difficult to tell with the angles not matching exactly. But both being on the closest side, it was easier to compare something relatively flat like the button.
Love it!
Two members in our immediate family are on the Series 1 (same year as Series 2) and Series 4 upgrade cycle and two of us (including myself) are on the Series 0 and Series 3 upgrade cycle. Love the larger screen and better resolution but not enough to early-upgrade the two of us with 3's that are less than a year old, one of them, with LTE, is just 3 months old. Still happy for the evolution and excited for next year's Series 5!
Two members in our immediate family are on the Series 1 (same year as Series 2) and Series 4 upgrade cycle and two of us (including myself) are on the Series 0 and Series 3 upgrade cycle. Love the larger screen and better resolution but not enough to early-upgrade the two of us with 3's that are less than a year old, one of them, with LTE, is just 3 months old. Still happy for the evolution and excited for next year's Series 5!
True this ^
If you thought the Series 0 launch was hard, that was only the diehard Apple Fans and people with disposable income who wanted to look cool. Now it’s all of those again plus people who are convinced it’s actually a worthwhile product!
Yes of course it was always 42mm. 42.5mm to be exact.
No it didn't. The watch case was 42.5mm tall. The display area was considerably smaller at 30.42mm tall.
These schematics are directly from Apple with my addition of the rumored 15% display area increase (but presumably with rounded corners):
THANK YOU. This is by far the most helpful post in this thread. Based on this, my guess is that the S4 will have a combination of smaller bezels and a slightly larger case size. The S4 screen as shows in your diagram seems to push a little too far into the rounded corner of the screen, so much so that there'd be pixels under the curve. Not sure Apple would want that, so I could see the case growing a few mm to avoid that.
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The name has nothing to do with Apple and dates back ages.
If you are serious, then you must not be a watch person (no offense - many people are not). Any watch collector, or enthusiast, knows that is an industry standard term that’s been used for many decades.
If you are interested in more about what a complication technically is, then read here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complication_(horology)
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Nope. If there’s any change in the case width at all - none of the current bands would fit. They wouldn’t do that.
Yes. I think it's because the iPhone is a mature product and AW is still getting huge changes at this point.
Thanks for your condescending reply. I quoted multiple posts, including yours, mainly because they were on the same topic, not because I was necessarily disagreeing with what you said.
However, for a $3000+ laptop, I'd still argue that 2880x1800 or the @2x point resolution of 1440x900 for a 15" screen is low. I think even Apple feels that given they've since changed the default point resolution 2 years ago. I don't think its unreasonable to see a resolution improvement in these displays 6 years after their introduction.
Having said that, I'm in the same boat as you. I've been using an iPad Pro as my main computer for years, and am waiting for an iMac update to replace my desktop at work.
I agree to some degree. It reeks of a bit of schizophrenia, harking back to the original launch as a star-studded, exclusive supermodel, fashion item. Apple seems to have moved away from that concept entirely, pushing it as more of a health and fitness/business tool, than a fashion accessory. "Series" carries with it the connotation that it is something more than Apple seems to be currently marketing it as -- reminiscent of the $15,000 solid gold Edition. That said, it's a wearable, and Series puts it more into a category that isn't just a commodity product, like a phone, or a tablet, or a computer.
Thanks. However, the rumor is that the corners of the 15% larger watch display are going to be rounded to match the case corners, just like the iPhone X. If that's the case, then the external case dimensions wouldn't have to change at all. There are mockups which depict this scattered around the web. I'll try to attach one here at some point.
If you check out the original 9to5 graphic, you'll see it fits horizontally, but not vertically. So theoretically the watch could be slightly taller, without changing the way the watch bands attach, or how the watch fits. Regardless, I'm not sure Apple would hold back any design change merely to accommodate customers who have already purchased watchbands. After all, this will be the fourth model of the same watch, which is a long time in the life cycle of an Apple product without any major changes.
Oh, right. Yeah, I guess increasing in the vertical dimension only is a definite possibility. You could be right that it’s time for a change and they could increase the whole thing...but I’m still betting their will be no “width” change. None of us know for sure. But in a few days we’ll find out.
I have the Series 3 and i use siri all the time. Its mainly why i got the watch. i can control lighting in my house and play music around my house from my watch without having my phone on me.
Siri works for basics like finding out football scores, changing light colours, my favourite is setting reminders as i am very forgetful and its handy having siri on your wrist (i use that alot).
I hope they introduce a software update where you dont have to say hey siri everytime as that ruins the mood
Well don't lump me in with a bunch of people who obviously don't agree with what I'm saying when you respond next time because it wastes both of our time. Not sure how I'm the bad guy in this?
I dunno - I was just trying to keep the conversation together. My apologies, and thank you for another condescending reply.
I will most likely upgrade from my S1 if it does indeed have a bigger display.
Not sure you're trying to be funny, but in horology a complication is any extra functions other than the keeping of time itself - date, day, chronograph, etc, so it is most appropriate since it is a watch.
I was desperately clicking online on launch day to get the Series 0 and I had a short wait but got one in the end. It has been a perfect little servant on my wrist, perfect for all manner of notifications, quick replies, meeting schedules and my fitness tracker.
The Series 1 launched and I let it go by - why should I get it? I had a perfectly fine watch....
The Seres 2 Nike edition had my attention. I REALLY wanted one but just couldn't afford it and the Series 0 was still running perfectly....
The Series 3 keynote reveal had me salivating - THIS was the watch to replace my 0! But... there was crappy small print that it was EE exclusive only in the UK and I was on 3 soooooo that was that. A year spent sulking while the guys at work had their shiny toy.
Now I am prepared. I have been teased by the Apple deliberate marketing leak of the "possible" new Series 4. I saw that awesome looking watch face with all the complications I could ever need on one screen. The chance that the screen was bigger - even better. It will fit my HUGE collection of straps and maybe the covers. It will work a lot faster than my 0 (as much as I love it, its time has come) and will be even better in day to day untethered use away from my iPhone.
My body is ready.
My wallet is ready.
My phone contract with 3 has expired.
BRING ON THE SERIES 4!!!!!!
The Series 1 launched and I let it go by - why should I get it? I had a perfectly fine watch....
The Seres 2 Nike edition had my attention. I REALLY wanted one but just couldn't afford it and the Series 0 was still running perfectly....
The Series 3 keynote reveal had me salivating - THIS was the watch to replace my 0! But... there was crappy small print that it was EE exclusive only in the UK and I was on 3 soooooo that was that. A year spent sulking while the guys at work had their shiny toy.
Now I am prepared. I have been teased by the Apple deliberate marketing leak of the "possible" new Series 4. I saw that awesome looking watch face with all the complications I could ever need on one screen. The chance that the screen was bigger - even better. It will fit my HUGE collection of straps and maybe the covers. It will work a lot faster than my 0 (as much as I love it, its time has come) and will be even better in day to day untethered use away from my iPhone.
My body is ready.
My wallet is ready.
My phone contract with 3 has expired.
BRING ON THE SERIES 4!!!!!!
I don't think the dimensions used in that graphic are quite right. Using the reported dimensions, it's a much larger 23.08% increase (not the 15% rumored). Here's how it works out in my rendering using the actual Apple schematics:
Note that using a proportional rectangle, it exceeds the dimensions of the current bezel. However, rounding the corners easily puts it inside the the glass, with room to spare. That said, it also makes it asymmetrical, which is very un-Apple like. So an easy fix would be to make the watch slightly taller -- but in the absence of any other changes to the case, a very expensive fix. That brings us to the PPI. Since these dimensions are extrapolations from the PPI using the current ratio, and given that the corners are very likely rounded, it's entirely possible the the ratio is in fact different, and it may be slightly wider than tall this time around. Even in this example, if you take the eliminated pixels that otherwise make the squared corners, and redistribute to the sides to compensate for the symmetry, I'd bet the purported PPI could easily be achieved. And that's a minor adjustment for developers who will already be planning to take advantage of the increased real estate of the display. Existing apps, will still likely work in their original window, making the watch appear no different from the previous models.
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Yup. Skipped v1, not water proof.
Skipped v2, battery life.
Skipped v3, still not enough battery life. No native sleep app.
Yup. Skipped them all, but now considering the 4.