You really think this changes anything? Lol they will still sell 100 million units
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You really think this changes anything? Lol they will still sell 100 million units
Even people complaining in the CSAM thread say they’re getting the 13. Mind-boggling really.
You misunderstood. While we don’t know if they change this, I doubt they will.
Either way, what platform is more privacy focused, then?
I mean, Apple is moving to privately snitch on you if it thinks you’re uploading the nasty stuff.
The “1 in a trillion” comment is laughable when coming from a company that can’t get iTunes Match working correctly, or gives me studio versions of songs on what is supposed to be a live album.
No. You can only notice refresh rates when content is changing, so “dynamic” only means it not being 120 when the content shown is not 120 (either a static image or lower fps) - which is what you want. Fixed fps is not better, it’s worse for many reasons like battery life or screen tearing (which is why modern TVs have variable refresh rates)
iPad Pro is 120 whenever something is moving on screen, unless it’s a 24/30/60fps content. So, scrolling, animations, etc. it’s all 120. It’s only “rare” if the 120fps content is rare, which depends on what you’re watching. The fact that it can lower this refresh rate when things are moving at a lower framerate, such as movies (or not moving at all, such as images) is a great thing. It will certainly be the same thing on iPhones as well. And it has nothing to do with the perception of 120fps. As I said, 120fps is 120fps. Your perception may vary depending on the type of content and screen size.
I did a quick survey where I work among office staff and just 4.76% of people asked are planning to upgrade their iPhone this year. So 2 people out of 42. It just goes to show that stats are fairly open to interpretation lol.
‘Useless statistics are up 15% from last month’.
‘Useless statistics are up 15% from last month’.
It’s a very specific scenario and Apple doesn’t even scan the photos you upload, unlike Google. But ok, let’s say you’re right - so if not iPhone, which privacy-focused phone will you choose? Because it’s not Android, that’s for sure - it this bothers you, you’d better stay away from those. So, I guess, dumbphones?
And what percentage of the survey responses were recorded before August 6?
Maybe me! My 6S is a little long in the tooth. But it's definitely new MBP year, so maybe iPhone 14, not 13, upgrade for me if I can stretch it another year... 
I have an iPhone 11 that's only about 18 months old. It looks and works like brand new. I'm pretty sure that I'll wait for the iPhone 14, which may even have a 3nm chip. But I really want to see how this privacy issue shakes out. If I'm not happy I may just drop out of the smartphone market.
On my Galaxy S20+ I could definitely tell the difference between 60Hz refresh and 120Hz, but it really wasn't enough of a draw to me to justify the battery hit. I presume it will be the same with the upcoming iPhones as well. Nice to have it, probably won't use it much.
Exactly. Originally I was planning to upgrade to the 13 if it restored TouchID, but with the latest developments, I'm not real eager about it any longer. If they continue on this path I may just go back to Android despite losing some of the cool ecosystem features that come with Apple products.
Given apple expect to sell 100 million iphone 13 models I doubt it. This is going to change nothing for 95% of people even the people on here moaning about it in every topic thats created are still buying the new iPhone.
The iPhone 13 isn't a must buy or necessary for those with the newer iPhone 11/12 models but more for the older iPhone owners.
Going from an 8 Plus (previously 6S Plus), that's a huge change as in 4 models and newer features.
Never understood why people still continue to upgrade annually, unless they're on some upgrade program with their phone provider or they just have money to spend and want the latest Apple tech to show off.
Many other commenters have stated similar thoughts!
What's not mentioned is the high iPhone cost for the Pro models that have better features than the more basic models. The high iPhone cost is a major turn off to upgrading for lots of people.
The durability & reliability of the newer iPhones and continued iOS support updates means that owners can keep their iPhone for ~5 yrs or so before 'needing' to upgrade.
It's sadly ironic that over the years, Apple has weaned users to larger sizes. When the Plus sized model first came out, lots of people were up in arms about the huge size and blasted Apple for following the Android makers for making huge phones like the Samsung Note.
Now, people are more willing to buy the Pro Max models which, according to Apple's website specs, are almost Identical to the Plus model models with a slight weight difference ~1~2 Ounces. Anyone that say they feel that immaterially imperceptible difference is most likely lying and needs to exercise!
If one wants the Mini, then should consider buying it before Apple phases it out. Rumours have already come out that there probably won't be a iPhone 14 mini.
Going from an 8 Plus (previously 6S Plus), that's a huge change as in 4 models and newer features.
Never understood why people still continue to upgrade annually, unless they're on some upgrade program with their phone provider or they just have money to spend and want the latest Apple tech to show off.
Many other commenters have stated similar thoughts!
What's not mentioned is the high iPhone cost for the Pro models that have better features than the more basic models. The high iPhone cost is a major turn off to upgrading for lots of people.
The durability & reliability of the newer iPhones and continued iOS support updates means that owners can keep their iPhone for ~5 yrs or so before 'needing' to upgrade.
It's sadly ironic that over the years, Apple has weaned users to larger sizes. When the Plus sized model first came out, lots of people were up in arms about the huge size and blasted Apple for following the Android makers for making huge phones like the Samsung Note.
Now, people are more willing to buy the Pro Max models which, according to Apple's website specs, are almost Identical to the Plus model models with a slight weight difference ~1~2 Ounces. Anyone that say they feel that immaterially imperceptible difference is most likely lying and needs to exercise!
If one wants the Mini, then should consider buying it before Apple phases it out. Rumours have already come out that there probably won't be a iPhone 14 mini.
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I think here in Mac Rumours the demand for the latest and greatest is very disproportional compared with general everyday life in my experience. People here are very interested in tech whereas the vast majority of people I personally know think an iPhone is an iPhone regardless of age of the device. I’ve never been into upgrading annually either as I think it’s a waste of money. I’ve never felt compelled to buy a Pro iPhone either as although I can afford them, I can’t really see the point. I bought an iPhone 12 last year and not once have I been in a position where I’ve felt I should have bought the Pro instead. Why spend £999 when I can spend an already too high £799? I think prices put a lot of people off and even the upgrade schemes rinse the user even if they are willing to pay that £400-500 a year for the privilege.