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Yup, I think it’s more like something that YouTubers talk about and then it becomes a thing. iPhones already use 120Hz refresh to detect touches, so this will be just a visual thing, not a responsiveness thing. I’m sure it will look nicer and Apple will market is as the next big thing, but other than a few games updating to run in 120fps (and, just to be clear, they will probably do so at a lower graphical quality) I don’t see why this is so important. Perhaps on Android, where things might get laggy, but I don’t think it will be such a big deal on an iPhone.

On an iPad it’s nice, but mostly since it helps Pencil with latency, and even there it’s not such a big deal.

YouTubers are funny, they will mostly tell you that ProMotion is not a reason to choose an iPad Pro over an Pad Air, but I have a feeling they will hype this feature on an iPhone later this year like something essential. Even with iPhone 12, every reviewer was disappointed it didn’t come with a 120Hz screen.
120hz touch and 120hz display refresh rate are two different things. The reality is the new display is the adaptive display, meaning the refresh rate always varies depending on the apps running. If you mostly spend browsing and doing social media, you won't benefit from the new display since the refresh rate would hover around 10~60hz.
 
Haha, 120hz is 120hz, it’s not like there is a better or a worse one.

Yet there could easily be a difference between static 120 Hz and dynamic 120 Hz. Promotion doesn’t always drive the display at a high (or the highest) refresh rate. I suspect that it is very rarely at 120.
 
120 hz refresh rate on an iPhone will be barely noticeable. On an iPad it works well
The 44% upgrade number is based on the feature leaks we’ve
Seen
Regardless there is always an upgrade cycle question is how big
 
I truly don't understand the obsession with high refresh displays, especially on something so tiny. I've had an iPad Pro with the Pro Motion display, and I really can't tell one way or the other any difference from my iPhone or my desktop monitor which is 60hz.
Agree, you notice it for the first few seconds on your iPad, then it's no different than using your iPhone.

These android fan boys swear by it. They've always liked big numbered pointless specs. 😂
 
120 hz refresh rate on an iPhone will be barely noticeable. On an iPad it works well
The 44% upgrade number is based on the feature leaks we’ve
Seen
Regardless there is always an upgrade cycle question is how big

No it will be noticeable

It’s sure as hell noticeable going from an s21 ultra to 12 pro max. Just the whole UI seems and is smoother
 
I wouldn’t have guessed the rate would be so high after last year’s super cycle. And who needs the newest iPhone anywa- oh wait I’m on the 12 also. I’ll buy a new iPhone when it folds! And not like my iPhone 6!
 
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This survey was done before the CSAM announcement, now do it again…

Why? most people have no idea about this and certainly won’t base theie next phone off that. If people are truly obsessed about privacy they wouldn’t use any phone
 
One has a wall clock. Very retro, I know.
Agreed. And I can check my analogue watch in less time than it takes to pull my phone out of my pocket. I hope there will be a way to turn it off... instead of Apple ramming it down our throats like so many other unwanted features. In fact, I hope there'll be an option to have the 120 hz screen refresh at 60 hz. That would be very benefiical for battery life. Apple works on giving us more/better battery capacity and then adds features that drain more juice.
 
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I highly doubt that. ProMotion displays are nice and will be welcomed on iPhone. But would it make a no brainer upgrade for half of actual iPhone users? I bet that people who care and can differenciate the display refresh rate are a very minimal proportion of the market, and that the average Joe doesn’t care about it.
So you doubt data based on your anecdotal opinion?

Have you been paying any attention to their quarterly results? People do care about the latest Apple stuff…a lot.
 
So you doubt data based on your anecdotal opinion?

Have you been paying any attention to their quarterly results? People do care about the latest Apple stuff…a lot.
Pretty sure that outside tech communities, people don’t care about ProMotion. Doesn’t mean that the iPhone 13 will not sell well. But yeah, I don’t see half of iPhone customers upgrade to the 13. And don’t believe every survey results buddy. Some of them are seriously flawed
 
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Pretty sure that outside tech communities, people don’t care about ProMotion. Doesn’t mean that the iPhone 13 will not sell well. But yeah, I don’t see half of iPhone customers upgrade to the 13. And don’t believe every survey results buddy. Some of them are seriously flawed
Buddy, I believe the earnings reports…and they show people care about new features in Apple products. You still didnt provide evidence people “don‘t care.”

People want new Apple products, the end. You are not in a position to say people don’t care because the evidence is very much to the contrary.
 
For some, especially tech blog muggles, specs are everything, the only thing, the reason for existence. Even though there is absolutely no way 120hz will make any difference on a smartphone screen that crowd will swear they see it. If the specs are there they will claim to see or feel them, like audiophiles or gamers.

I can already hear the likes of Rene Ritchie telling everyone it's a "game changer" and a "must have"
 
Buddy, I believe the earnings reports…and they show people care about new features in Apple products. You still didnt provide evidence people “don‘t care.”

People want new Apple products, the end. You are not in a position to say people don’t care because the evidence is very much to the contrary.
I think what the other poster is saying is that if you ask an average iPhone user about promotion, they’ll probably give you a funny look or say, what’s that?

The average user will definitely notice improved response times and update rates, and enjoy the improvements, even if they don’t know the fancy term ascribed to the display improvements.

For example, my wife took one look at my LG CX OLED display while I was playing 4K HDR content and said, “that display is amazing! How much did that cost?”

Even without knowing anything about OLED, HDMI 2.1 or 120Hz refresh rates, she knew she was looking at a quality display that cost more than run of the mill displays.

I think that’s how non-tech people will judge the displays; by looking at them.
 
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Heheh nope, this is going wild here in Germany. It’s not only a „nerd topic“ thingy.
The stupidest boulevard news sites already mentioned it.

But it is, unless you follow tech closely most won’t even be aware of it and it certainly won’t stop people using and buying iPhones
 
not worth upgrade my 6S until they add the punch hole and fingerprint ID. SRSLY a notch in 2021??? I won't pay a cent for the design lol
 
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No it will be noticeable

It’s sure as hell noticeable going from an s21 ultra to 12 pro max. Just the whole UI seems and is smoother
The smoothness is in fast scrolling and screen animations, correct? Because you’re not going to see any difference 60 to 120Hz when reading an email, or looking at a website, maybe if you super-fast scroll through Twitter or Instagram (which means you’re not really reading or looking at images closely).

No doubt there are some benefits, especially when you’re talking about variable refresh rate, because some things look better when the refresh rate is less than 60Hz - not everything is better in 120Hz. It’s certainly not something most people will notice, care about, upgrade for, outside of tech enthusiasts. I’m not upgrading from my 12PM, mainly because it does what I need it to do for work and life. Plus I just got the M1 iPad Pro 12.9”, which I’m using as my daily work device and for entertainment. If Apple adds in a titanium version next year, that will be my reason to upgrade and then hold onto it for 3+ years. All these devices have gotten so good, Apple, Samsung and a number of the Chinese brands, that it’s no longer necessary to upgrade yearly.
 
I think what the other poster is saying is that if you ask an average iPhone user about promotion, they’ll probably give you a funny look or say, what’s that?

The average user will definitely notice improved response times and update rates, and enjoy the improvements, even if they don’t know the fancy term ascribed to the display improvements.

For example, my wife took one look at my LG CX OLED display while I was playing 4K HDR content and said, “that display is amazing! How much did that cost?”

Even without knowing anything about OLED, HDMI 2.1 or 120Hz refresh rates, she knew she was looking at a quality display that cost more than run of the mill displays.

I think that’s how non-tech people will judge the displays; by looking at them.
My point isn’t whether or not users know what features are called or what they do. My point is data is data and saying it’s “not true” is meaningless when you consider the numbers Apple puts up consistent. There is no evidence not to believe this report.
 
I don’t upgrade UNTIL I see a faster processor. What a waste to have the same (outdated) performance specs. People really want to see their phones get slower and slower? I don’t think so.


And I’m guessing people who don’t have an Apple Watch are the ones who want Touch ID. I haven’t needed touch ID since Face ID was put in. I’d rather they put resources into moving forward, not backward.
 
The minute a high refresh rate display is said to be the most desired feature the minute you know this data is not very representative, most users will have no idea what that even is. Also was this a survey ran on a website for selling your phone that resulted in a high number of people responding with they want a new phone....coincidence?
We should know by now that the data from surveys and polls are only representative of the people that actually took the surveys.

None of that BS 100 people surveyed and 50 say YES. Then the results is “half of Americans say yes”. Retarded ****
 
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