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its not real!!!! theres no way there is going to be an iphone with 4gb of memory and a front camera. maybe 4gb but definetly not with a camera.

What if all the new model iPhones have a front facing camera, and Fido is simply planning on advertising the cheapest one for marketing purposes? A 4 GB iPhone for $99 or less on AT&T with newer/cheaper data plans would make some sense for individuals who want/need the iPhone but don't need a ton of space.
 
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I kid you not. Every deaf and hard of hearing person in America will buy this solely for the video conferencing feature to see each other signing. Do you all know that there are an estimated 32+ million people in America with hearing loss. This equals mega bucks for Apple and AT&T!

Yeah right, like they can hold the phone AND sign with both hands, or not get their entire points across by signing with only one hand. The 32 mil figure represents those with some degrees of hearing loss, not necessarily the number of ASL users.
 
I think a 4G phone pretty much guarantees that they will be adjusting the pricing structure for iPhone plans. You'll have your entry level phones/plan with either EDGE only or capped data, lower memory, weaker features and you will have your higher level, flagship phones with all the best features and the more expensive plans.
 
I highly doubt Apple will use an iChat feature. I will eat my words if it happens.

Not one person who advocates for video calling on a cell phone has explained how it will work logistically. Just imagine trying to walk down a busy street and use the video calling function. You'd need to hold the phone at arm's length and keep it perfectly still to have a reasonable conversation.

Video calling makes zero sense on a mobile phone. It's fine for a home phone, where the phone can be stationary, but it's completely unfeasible in a mobile product. If (big, big IF) this ever happens, it will be a gimmick only.

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I kid you not. Every deaf and hard of hearing person in America will buy this solely for the video conferencing feature to see each other signing. Do you all know that there are an estimated 32+ million people in America with hearing loss. This equals mega bucks for Apple and AT&T!

Between the poor video quality such a device would entail and trying to sign one handed, I doubt it. Again, video calling on a mobile makes little sense.
 
Not the actual 4gb iphone on the image. So by reading the specs, it is sounds great.

OMG you people are not understanding this at all.

Guy 1: Looks good!
Guy 2: No, it doesn't look good, thats not a picture of the real 3rd gen iPhone. you mean it "sounds good"
Me: It doesn't "sound" anything - it's an image (or text, or whatever) thusly - it looks good. Because text doesn't make any sound.

OMG HILARITY! See? You nitpicked one grammatical "error" and then I nitpicked your nitpick with a funny joke!

Images and text do not make sounds, so they do not sound good - by your logic. SEE HOW FUNNY IT IS?
 
The demand for a front facing camera, even without the ability to video chat is staggering. Seriously? Do you people really take that many pictures of yourself that you need a dedicated camera to do so?
 
As much as I would love to see a front facing camera for video chat (and self-portraits), I highly doubt it will be in the next iPhone.

I have to politly dissagree.
I hope they DONT, it will ruin the sleek face of the iPhone.

A solution could be a little tiny mirror like telescope thingy (you know the submarine style telescope toy we all either had, played with, or wanted, that would look over fences ect) i guess its called a spy scope or somthing? Anyway, just a small one that had a tube and a set of mirrors inside to get the light from the front of the camera, and then its attached to a full body case where it would have a pod that could come out of the back, so that you could put it on a table and vid chat in landscape view.
Anyone follow me? not ment to be a portable case but like a solid plastic holster rather to hold the telescope and prop the iPhone up...

And id like to see an ipod with photo/video capabilities... but first mac needs to put video recording and pic/video msging into the standard firmware.
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and i STRONGLY agree with uberamd.
Seriously, you have to be way to egotistic to actually want that.
Not like you can't just turn the phone around and take a pic that way 'Oh noes but i cant see myself!'. Well its digital ain't it? Just keep taking photos and deleting untill you get one you like, and if you claim you can't get a decent photo, then you need to understand its your paren'ts fault for making you ugly and not the phones. 'Nuff said.
 
I have to politly dissagree.
I hope they DONT, it will ruin the sleek face of the iPhone.

A solution could be a little tiny mirror like telescope thingy (you know the submarine style telescope toy we all either had, played with, or wanted, that would look over fences ect) i guess its called a spy scope or somthing? Anyway, just a small one that had a tube and a set of mirrors inside to get the light from the front of the camera, and then its attached to a full body case where it would have a pod that could come out of the back, so that you could put it on a table and vid chat in landscape view.
Anyone follow me? not ment to be a portable case but like a solid plastic holster rather to hold the telescope and prop the iPhone up...

And id like to see an ipod with photo/video capabilities... but first mac needs to put video recording and pic/video msging into the standard firmware.

Thats very complicated, lol. I have an idea, how about people quit taking so many "MySpace" pictures of themselves and find a friend to do it?
 
I have never used even close to 4GB on my iPhone. I am wiling to assume I am an abberrent user. A heavy user with "only" 4GB of local space would need a cloud server to pick up the slack. May the rumors now commence in style.

Who are the third party iPhone compatible cloud server suppliers with existing deployed iPhone apps? I ask. :D

Rocketman
 
I think a 4G phone pretty much guarantees that they will be adjusting the pricing structure for iPhone plans. You'll have your entry level phones/plan with either EDGE only or capped data, lower memory, weaker features and you will have your higher level, flagship phones with all the best features and the more expensive plans.

So lower memory and weaker features? Does that mean lower overall specs? I HIGHLY doubt Apple wants to make buying the iPhone like computer shopping, where you need to compare specs to find the one that can handle the apps you want to use, etc.

I have the 8GB iPhone and I am using a few hundred MB because of apps and pictures, but I have 0 songs on my phone. Thus, I wouldn't mind the 4GB model because I have an iPod Touch/5th Gen iPod for music. But crippled specs? No. Won't happen.
 
I have never used even close to 4GB on my iPhone. I am wiling to assume I am an abberrent user. A heavy user with "only" 4GB of local space would need a cloud server to pick up the slack. May the rumors now commence in style.

Who are the third party iPhone compatible cloud server suppliers with existing deployed iPhone apps? I ask. :D

Rocketman

Isn't Apple closing on a huge server farm in North Carolina?

I have to politly dissagree.
I hope they DONT, it will ruin the sleek face of the iPhone.

A solution could be a little tiny mirror like telescope thingy (you know the submarine style telescope toy we all either had, played with, or wanted, that would look over fences ect) i guess its called a spy scope or somthing? Anyway, just a small one that had a tube and a set of mirrors inside to get the light from the front of the camera, and then its attached to a full body case where it would have a pod that could come out of the back, so that you could put it on a table and vid chat in landscape view.
Anyone follow me? not ment to be a portable case but like a solid plastic holster rather to hold the telescope and prop the iPhone up...

So instead of moving the speaker earpiece up further (as rumors have suggested) to make room for a front facing camera that would not be noticeable (re: the iMac and 24" LED LCD Display's have built in video camera's under the glass that do not infringe on aesthetics), you are suggesting an exterior telescope-esque device to attach to the iPhone in order to allow self-portraits and video conferencing from the already existent rear facing camera? If aesthetics are an issue, it makes no sense to disagree with a hidden front facing camera while promoting additional equipment that would undoubtedly mire the sleek aesthetics.
 
I call fake. I highly doubt Apple will use an iChat feature. I will eat my words if it happens. Till then... fake

Oh it most definitely will happen, but not this time around and NOT on a 4GB iPhone lol. No way, total BS!
 
Thats very complicated, lol. I have an idea, how about people quit taking so many "MySpace" pictures of themselves and find a friend to do it?

yeah really.
LoL
I have been agains myspace since day one, even though somone made a myspace with my picture name and info in it... creepy.
same with face book, twitter, hotmail, aim and every other stupid "communication" fad.
What ever happened to talking to people?

I only beleive in Google, Torrents, YouTube, Wikipedia, and Zombies, because we all know "The Zombie Survival Guide" was not a joke at all, and is to be taken very very seriously... http://ww2.zombieinitiative.org/ lol
:rolleyes:
Back on topic.... ;) Video chat wont be cheap, but then again if you can afford an iPhone, cheap isnt a priorty.
 
:rolleyes:

Listen, a front facing camera is inevitable. It would be a feature that no other popular smartphone has, give Apple a big advantage in the market, and is very easy to implement.

Here is how:

1. Front facing on all new iPhones
2. Wifi support for all models - FREE - for home use and AT&T hot spots
3. Video calling package for an extra $10-$30 a month
 
The bandwidth for something like video chat simply doesn't exist right now, especially upload speed which is at a premium.

That's incorrect, before I jumped on the iPhone wagon I had a windows mobile device and I used video chat on a daily basis. That was about a year ago, with AT&T
 
why are people so stuck on an iPhone nano. wtf are we gonna get out of an iPhone nano?!

the size of the iPhone is fine, idk what's with all these "nano" rumors.
 
The cost difference between a 4gb and 8gb module can only be a few dollars...why go back to 4gb?

iChat video would be the killer feature with 3.0, but I still say it will not happen due to bandwidth issues, unless it's an additional feature you have to add to your plan.
 
I have to politly dissagree.
I hope they DONT, it will ruin the sleek face of the iPhone.

A solution could be a little tiny mirror like telescope thingy (you know the submarine style telescope toy we all either had, played with, or wanted, that would look over fences ect) i guess its called a spy scope or somthing? Anyway, just a small one that had a tube and a set of mirrors inside to get the light from the front of the camera, and then its attached to a full body case where it would have a pod that could come out of the back, so that you could put it on a table and vid chat in landscape view.
Anyone follow me? not ment to be a portable case but like a solid plastic holster rather to hold the telescope and prop the iPhone up...

And id like to see an ipod with photo/video capabilities... but first mac needs to put video recording and pic/video msging into the standard firmware.
EDIT:
and i STRONGLY agree with uberamd.
Seriously, you have to be way to egotistic to actually want that.
Not like you can't just turn the phone around and take a pic that way 'Oh noes but i cant see myself!'. Well its digital ain't it? Just keep taking photos and deleting untill you get one you like, and if you claim you can't get a decent photo, then you need to understand its your paren'ts fault for making you ugly and not the phones. 'Nuff said.

Are you on crack lol? I hope you are being sarcastic.

How does this ruin the iPhones sleekness? It looks better than the actual iPhone!
 

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