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4K is so overhyped. You can't tell the difference from a 1080p TV if you sit back from the TV like 6 ft (which most people do). Plus with the data caps the cable companies are placing, you'll run out of data after a movie or two. It's all bs.

Have to agree. First you gotta get past all those that don't have enough bandwidth. And those that do won't see much difference. You need a big screen tv to really see the difference. 75" or more.
 
I really hope they do a gaming bundle with a controller. They put way too much hope in setting Apple TV up as a platform without considering the powers of defaults. iOS stumbled into becoming the largest gaming platform in the world on the strength of innovative inputs combined with market saturation. Apple TV have the strengths of building upon iOS, but does not have the saturation nor the expectations of gaming inputs to make it a viable platform. I hope they have learnt from this this time around.
 
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Because 1 HDMI goes to the projector/TV and the other one to the AV amp for best image performance.
Every good Blu-ray reader has 2 HDMI outputs.

Excessive in this day and age. I’m an AV snob and have spent a great deal on gear over the years and grew up with great systems and worked in music doing production and engineering. That said, I think people who think they’re getting performance improvements from things like this are fooling themselves, and I’ve yet to see anyone reliably tell any sort of difference in any A/B testing. Unless you have a receiver or processor doing video conversion and you can’t turn it off (in which case you should worry more about getting a better processor), splitting the signals like this is unnecessary. Many processors/receivers have this fornpeople with projectors in addition to more traditional flat screens in the same setup, but splitting up digital audio and video? No. Silly. It’s not like analog where the signal can degrade. It either gets there or it doesn’t.
 
For the record, the only thing connected to our TV is an ATV4 and a Switch and we use the Apple TV 99% of the time we sit in front of it. I want Apple TV to be important and successful.
 
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If it's true that an Apple employee emailed 9to5Mac and MacRumors the links to the GM build as Daring Fireball suggests then this shouldn't be called a leak. A leak is unintentional. This would be a malicious act. I'm not quite sure how I feel about that.
 
I would consider buying this if it's sensibly priced.

But I have no confidence it will be sensibly priced.
 
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I really hope they do a gaming bundle with a controller. They put way too much hope in setting Apple TV up as a platform without considering the powers of defaults. iOS stumbled into becoming the largest gaming platform in the world on the strength of innovative inputs combined with market saturation. Apple TV have the strengths of building upon iOS, but does not have the saturation nor the expectations of gaming inputs to make it a viable platform. I hope they have learnt from this this time around.

That'd be nice but Apple TVs are pretty cheap products. Adding real gaming support means adding a heavy-duty storage device, and that's going to drive up the cost significantly. And the controller would be pretty expensive as well.
 
That'd be nice but Apple TVs are pretty cheap products. Adding real gaming support means adding a heavy-duty storage device, and that's going to drive up the cost significantly. And the controller would be pretty expensive as well.
I do mean as an option. Sure it won't be a default default. But it will at least be a sanctioned default, and that might bring it over the bar for many developers saturation-wise.

Right now, asking developers to target people who go out of their way to buy third party devices is just too much.
 
Well, 4k video is good enough on my Amazon fire tv 2. generation.
Amazon prime video and Netflix is all I need, voice recognition on the amazon remote control is very good.

I wish there would be any advantage for the apple tv - I just don t see it.
 
Just curious, what is happening to your 3rd gen ATV?

I am getting some flickering on the left had side of the screen. No other devices have this problem and I have tried changing cables, adjusting settings and anything else I can find. I even hard reset the device. Nothing...
 
Curious on why? I feel they are just playing catch up with it... I have one of the older ones and never use it

For me, it'll be the perfect device because I have 600 iTunes movies and TV Shows, so with built in upscaling (which most 4K devices have) my 1080p content should look a LOT better. I find the ATV 4 buggy as hell, so I'm hoping this new model is more stable and with better ram and processing less buffering issues. That plus it'll have Vudu UHD Support (hopefully), Amazon 4K HDR, Hulu 4K HDR and Netflix HDR, plus Xfinity (for the most part fully supports ATV where it doesn't support AndroidTV) will make this a must have upgrade for me. Plus my entire media server of 3,000 ripped movies and tV Shows is sort of based on iTunes Homeshare (even though I've been using Plex more lately)
 
....and it STILL doesn't support DTS/MA-HD audio tracks! I'll never understand why Apple doesn't add this feature. I'll stick with my Nvidia Shield TV box.
 
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4K is so overhyped. You can't tell the difference from a 1080p TV if you sit back from the TV like 6 ft (which most people do). Plus with the data caps the cable companies are placing, you'll run out of data after a movie or two. It's all bs.

Ah the first one to start the stupid "4K sucks" rants. Congrats. Why do you care? No one is forcing you to buy this. Apple isn't hanging you up by your ankles and shaking the money out of your pocket.
 
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