4K Apple TV Could Feature A10X Fusion Chip and 3GB of RAM

[facemeat]

I wonder if it would be powerful enough to stream a plex library (1080p and above) from a NAS..
Considered picking up a Mac mini for this very reason but I’ll wait and see how the new Apple TV performs. This might be cheaper and easier than another computer.

 

[beestigbeestje]

Excessive in this day and age. I’m an AV snob and have spent a great deal on gear over the years and grew up with great systems and worked in music doing production and engineering. That said, I think people who think they’re getting performance improvements from things like this are fooling themselves, and I’ve yet to see anyone reliably tell any sort of difference in any A/B testing. Unless you have a receiver or processor doing video conversion and you can’t turn it off (in which case you should worry more about getting a better processor), splitting the signals like this is unnecessary. Many processors/receivers have this fornpeople with projectors in addition to more traditional flat screens in the same setup, but splitting up digital audio and video? No. Silly. It’s not like analog where the signal can degrade. It either gets there or it doesn’t.

If you don't see the difference, it means your TV can't show it or your blu-ray player is lacking.
It's not 'just getting there' It's getting there as exact as possible.
CD players all sound different, exact same CD, still different. Video equipment also has impact on image quality. The less you have in the chain, the better.

 

[deckard666]

It's not a TV!

Funny enough neither was the PS TV...these tech companies eh ?

 

[NIKKG]

Ah the first one to start the stupid "4K sucks" rants. Congrats. Why do you care? No one is forcing you to buy this. Apple isn't hanging you up by your ankles and shaking the money out of your pocket.

I'm just expressing my opinion just like you and everyone else here. I am not buying it, but that doesn't mean I can't talk about it.

 

[lsutigerfan1976]

Great but if the starting price is $199 won't matter. If Apple wants to be king of content then it's going to have to make it's streamer's price more competitive. It needs to go back to the $99 price point even if that is "cost." Simple "razor and blades" business model.

I have a $39 Roku Express that does everything my ATV4 does other than AirPlay. A 4K Roku can be had for $59. Top of the line is $99.

And for disclosure, I have two ATV4s. One I bought on Black Friday 2015 for $99. The other I got free with DirecTV Now. I would have never bought a ATV4 at their regular prices.

Yes your other devices may be cheaper. But do your other devices come with a nice shiny Apple logo on it?

 

[RamGuy]

This ATV 4K will go head to head with Nvidia Shield TV 2017. Can Apple support 4K streaming formats like h265, dts hdma, dolby atmos inside mp4 container? If no, then Nvidia Shield TV is a simple choice over whatever fluff Apple pulls out of the bag. And I am not interested to play Crossy Road on TV.

The NVIDIA Shield TV does not support H265/HEVC, at least not for now. It uncertain if the hardware feature hardware acceleration/decoding of H265/HEVC at all. NVIDIA could update it to support software decoding, but then it will likely be limited to 8-bit (non-HDR) only as 10-bit is really demanding to do in software.

And it doesn't support Dolby Vision either. So it seems like the new Apple TV will beat it there as well.

 

[Piggie]

So, and I quote:

"Game developers will be rubbing their hands together at the prospect of leveraging the processor's power to create immersive 3D experiences to rival modern console titles."

So the most popular "modern consoles" are the Xbox One and the PS4
Both of which are now around 4 years old.

So are we actually, honestly now saying Apple's BRAND NEW device will actually have the graphical/gaming power of these two 4 year old consoles?

I hope this is true.

 

[CaryMacGuy]

I would like to see an announcement of Madden NFL for Apple TV. I have been waiting for that!

 

[Chupa Chupa]

Yes your other devices may be cheaper. But do your other devices come with a nice shiny Apple logo on it?

I can't tell -- they are virtually out of sight. They all have they same annoying GUI so can't tell that way either.
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I would like to see an announcement of Madden NFL for Apple TV. I have been waiting for that!

What would be the point. EA would probably base pricing on a per touchdown basis.

 

[1Zach1]

For what we watch a $49 Apple TV Air would be all we need.

I would likely buy this in a heartbeat to replace my Fire TV Stick and Chromecast.

 

[creediddy]

I think it will be under $149. The cost of the processor is still comparatively cheap. I don't see it going over $200

 

[Theophany]

Yes, but are they streaming 4K? I'm streaming 4K on YouTube, Netflix and other services and like I said, it's only 2 or 3 hours every couple of days and on the weekend I'll binge 8 or 9 hrs of 4K tv. Not to mention the avg Game Download these days is 50GB and PS+ and Xbox offer 2 or 4 free games a month. That's 200GB right there.

No and that's my point, 4K is not the norm yet. Most houses don't have 4K TVs, let alone 4K monitors or the hardware needed to access 4K streams (or don't want to pay higher subscription costs for 4K programming), which is what makes your usage an outlier. That means there is plenty of time for the technology evolve for the demand where 4K is 'normal' usage in the next 5-10 years, hopefully meaning we won't live in a world of bandwidth caps.

No doubt the average monthly household bandwidth usage is much higher today than it was 10 years ago, but there's no way even 200GB is normal. In fact in many cases it's probably not even possible due to slow internet speeds.

 

[Braderunner]

Hopefully, it has A NEW REMOTE!!!! Holy cow! A NEW REMOTE!!!! If nothing else! A NEW REMOTE!!!!

 

[xinam]

Please, just shut up and take my money.

 

[simon lefisch]

I wonder if it would be powerful enough to stream a plex library (1080p and above) from a NAS..
Considered picking up a Mac mini for this very reason but I’ll wait and see how the new Apple TV performs. This might be cheaper and easier than another computer.

If you're going to direct play, then it's fine. The current ATV can do this. If you're transcoding, Plex is dependent on the server to transcode. ATV will not transcode anything.

 

[The Game 161]

Guess it depends how much 4K content will be available to see if this is worth buying or not.

 

[simon lefisch]

The NVIDIA Shield TV does not support H265/HEVC, at least not for now. It uncertain if the hardware feature hardware acceleration/decoding of H265/HEVC at all. NVIDIA could update it to support software decoding, but then it will likely be limited to 8-bit (non-HDR) only as 10-bit is really demanding to do in software.

And it doesn't support Dolby Vision either. So it seems like the new Apple TV will beat it there as well.

Incorrect. The Shield TV DOES support H265/HEVC. It has for some time. I have plenty of HEVC content in my library. Also supports 10-bit.

ATM, it does not support Dolby Vision, but sounds like it is in the works via a sw update.

 

[macduke]

If this thing is clocked the same as the iPad Pro, many of you will end up with Apple TVs that are faster than your Mac Mini, MacBook, MacBook Pro 13" and several MacBook Pro 15" and iMac models that are a few years old. That's really weird to think about.

 

[2010mini]

I hardly use my Apple TV

I’ll take it off your hands then.

 

[deckard666]

If you're going to direct play, then it's fine. The current ATV can do this. If you're transcoding, Plex is dependent on the server to transcode. ATV will not transcode anything.

I use the Infuse App to stream 1080p direct from my 2010 MacPro to the latest ATV over my wifi and it runs like a dream.

 

[diamond.g]

So, and I quote:

"Game developers will be rubbing their hands together at the prospect of leveraging the processor's power to create immersive 3D experiences to rival modern console titles."

So the most popular "modern consoles" are the Xbox One and the PS4
Both of which are now around 4 years old.

So are we actually, honestly now saying Apple's BRAND NEW device will actually have the graphical/gaming power of these two 4 year old consoles?

I hope this is true.

It is rumored to have less than half the ram so I am not sure the exact same assets would work on the new AppleTV.

 

[2010mini]

Hope all you salivating for 4k have the bandwidth and no data caps for it.

 

[diamond.g]

No and that's my point, 4K is not the norm yet. Most houses don't have 4K TVs, let alone 4K monitors or the hardware needed to access 4K streams (or don't want to pay higher subscription costs for 4K programming), which is what makes your usage an outlier. That means there is plenty of time for the technology evolve for the demand where 4K is 'normal' usage in the next 5-10 years, hopefully meaning we won't live in a world of bandwidth caps.

No doubt the average monthly household bandwidth usage is much higher today than it was 10 years ago, but there's no way even 200GB is normal. In fact in many cases it's probably not even possible due to slow internet speeds.

We pretty much exclusively use our AppleTV for content now (broken TiVo too lazy to fix) and we average around 500gb a month, without 4K.

 

[coolspot18]

Have to admit I'm interested in this new ATV. Hope price isn't to prohibitive and Apple really push these out.

Neat, but there are barley any apps for the ATV...

After using the ATV vs. Nvidia Shield, I'll probably opt for the Shield.

My biggest grip with the ATV is the remote, it's awful - but then again, the Shield's remote is pretty bad too. I replaced my Shield remote with a Harmony Elite.

The Shield works very well but has the ability to load content on the Shield via USB and third party apps like emulators. The ATV's app library is much too small.

 

[monaarts]

4K is so overhyped. You can't tell the difference from a 1080p TV if you sit back from the TV like 6 ft (which most people do). Plus with the data caps the cable companies are placing, you'll run out of data after a movie or two. It's all bs.

You've apparently never watched a 4K TV without poorly compressed media in a home setting. It's especially better when it has HDR.

I'm looking forward to this upgrade. I suspect they keep the prices exactly the same at $149 and $199 but they also keep the current AppleTV with 16gb for $99.