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Star Wars films?

So far, Disney only has "Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2" released, and "Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales" and "Cars 3" announced. All three released the same time as the Blu-Ray and digital releases.

We'll see about Star Wars closer to The Last Jedi's release.
 
Beat me to it... I have so called 56mbps from TW and I'm lucky if my stuff looks 1080p for a full hr straight.

Yep. Unless I can start the download on a Mac and let it go for 13 hours or so, then do home sharing the next day.
 
Well that's the issue, and why this will fail. If the 4K Apple TV is required to GET the 4K content, I cannot download it on my mac over night and use home sharing.
It is not required. My copy of La La Land has been upgraded to 4K HDR and I don't own an Apple TV
 
Yes but if the Apple TV is required to request 4K content, I cannot use home sharing and it will just be useless to a lot of people that have issues with their internet.

It'll be required to display 4K content, but nobody's seeing 4K on the computer's iTunes yet.
 
Not true, 1080P streaming was the same as the Blu-ray counterpart. 4K shows on Netflix were the same as the UHD counterpart as well. I’d assume Apple’s h.265 codec will be able to handle it as well. The flags are there but I don’t believe the files are available.

1080p streaming cannot compare to 1080p Blu-ray, and 4K streaming cannot compare to UltraHD Blu-ray.
 
It'll be required to display 4K content, but nobody's seeing 4K on the computer's iTunes yet.

Yes but it will be useless if I can't use home sharing. I don't want to watch a 2 hour movie in 5 hours due to constant buffering.

Hopefully my 5K iMac can play these too!
 
The difference is so negligible it doesn’t matter. The now defunct h.264 format was nearly indistinguishable from Blu-ray. The new h.265 codec should be identical to the UHD codec. A lot of the streaming issues in the display of 1080P format on iTunes was the AppleTV not the file itself.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/03/the-ars-itunes-1080p-vs-blu-ray-shootout/

There so much incorrect information here that it's useless to even bother trying to unpack it all...
 
So you can't actually download at 4K which is a serious issue. My internet is not that reliable even at a 300 Mbps plan. Crappy Spectrum. The only way I can watch content smoothly is to download it over night.

If you can sustain at least a 15Mibps you'll be fine to stream 4K+HDR content from the iTS.
 
If you can sustain at least a 15Mibps you'll be fine to stream 4K+HDR content from the iTS.

Nope. I get 1080p buffering a lot. I don't want to spend 5 hours watching a 2 hour movie. I will just download it at night, and while at work. 16 hours will be enough to download the video.
 
Nope. I get 1080p buffering a lot. I don't want to spend 5 hours watching a 2 hour movie. I will just download it at night, and while at work. 16 hours will be enough to download the video.

If you actually ran the numbers you'd see how very wrong you are that 300Mibps isn't enough. Perhaps you need to get better equipment in your home or do some exploratory testing instead of blaming your ISP outright and claiming that both Apple are basic math are lying to you about 15Mibps sustained being a perfectly fine minimum for 4K+HDR.

15 Mibps = 57.2 Gibabytes per hour.
 
No kidding. Streaming bitrates can't compare to the bitrates used on blu-rays.

But 4K streaming/downloads will still be better than 1080p streaming/downloads. We are not concerned with discs here. We prefer digital content instead of physical media.
 
Why wouldn’t it download in 4K on an iOS device if it says “4K” and you’ve selected “best available” under Playback Quality in settings?
 
If you actually ran the numbers you'd see how very wrong you are that 300Mibps isn't enough. Perhaps you need to get better equipment in your home or do some exploratory testing instead of blaming your ISP outright and claiming that both Apple are math are lying to you.

Spectrum are blaming themselves! Why do you assume it's just my fault? We have BAD BAD BAD wiring in our neighborhood. They are in the neighborhood "patching" cables instead of rewiring the neighborhood. And I didn't say I get 300 Mbps speeds. I said that was my PLAN. It drops to just 3 or 5 down A LOT. Spectrum says it is an issue on THEIR END. It is VERY SPIKY too. No consistancy at all.

I have a $150 modem that supports 700 Mbps down. I have $500 in wireless routers. I have connected directly to the modem. I have tried other modems. Spectrum has said it is an issue on their end. No equipment will help with that.
 
The difference is so negligible it doesn’t matter. The now defunct h.264 format was nearly indistinguishable from Blu-ray. The new h.265 codec should be identical to the UHD codec. A lot of the streaming issues in the display of 1080P format on iTunes was the AppleTV not the file itself.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/03/the-ars-itunes-1080p-vs-blu-ray-shootout/
Wow just wow! You need to look up terms like h264, bluray, h265, UHD. Find out which of those terms are actual codecs and which are standards.

Streaming issues in 1080p can be attirbuted to wifi/network bandwidth, poorly encoded mp4 file. It was never Apple TV. It was doing what it was supposed to do.
 
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I suspect that when the Apple TV launches there will be a big feature section of the movies available. And then it will likely be one of those smaller buttons like the ongoing 99 cent rentals

In the meantime, I posted a link to a list that is being updated as titles are found.
 
The difference is so negligible it doesn’t matter. The now defunct h.264 format was nearly indistinguishable from Blu-ray. The new h.265 codec should be identical to the UHD codec. A lot of the streaming issues in the display of 1080P format on iTunes was the AppleTV not the file itself.
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2012/03/the-ars-itunes-1080p-vs-blu-ray-shootout/

Wow... Uh...

So, H.264 isn't "defunct". It's still in use by *LOTS* of things. For example: Blu-ray discs. It's also called "AVC", which you may have seen in many places, like the iTunes Store, or iPhone video recordings.

And H.265 shouldn't "be identical" - it *IS* identical. The UHD codec *IS* H.265, also called "HEVC."

However, in both cases, the disc-based formats use a higher bitrate than download/streaming services. In each format, more data generally means higher quality picture. For example, my Blu-ray copy of Rogue One uses about 40 GB of space. My iTunes digital download uses only 5.6 GB. The Blu-ray is a significantly higher quality encoding. UHD/4K downloads vs. UHD Blu-ray are similarly way off in size. The discs can just hold a lot more data than the streaming/download companies are willing to put to a movie.

As for "streaming issues was the AppleTV itself", that doesn't apply to the person you are likely addressing it to, since they specified they see stalls streaming on computer, too.
 
Spectrum are blaming themselves! Why do you assume it's just my fault? We have BAD BAD BAD wiring in our neighborhood. And I didn't say I get 300 Mbps speeds. I said that was my PLAN. It drops to just 3 or 5 down A LOT. Spectrum says it is an issue on THEIR END.

1) When someone claims that basic math and Apple's very own statement about what they require as sustained throughput is for getting 4K+HDR is wrong… then it's your fault. It's certainly not Spectrum's fault for making you think that 300Mibps isn't enough for a file that is probably around 2GiB per hour.

2) If it "drops to just 3 or 5 down A LOT" then you aren't getting the requisite sustained minimum for streaming. This isn't Apple's fault.
 
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