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4K iTunes Content Limited to Streaming Only, No Downloads

nuckinfutz said:
Unbelievable. I will be torrenting like crazy. Never going to accept limitations like this.
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If you can - and will - torrent, why buy even if you could download?

Hustler1337 said:
I'm guessing it's down to storage and user experience management. A 4K movie can easily reach around 35GB+ so will eat up around half the space already of a 64GB Apple TV.
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My entire iTunes purchased library is stored on a Drobo 5D - I stream from it to my AppleTV.
 
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Hustler1337 said:
I'm guessing it's down to storage and user experience management. A 4K movie can easily reach around 35GB+ so will eat up around half the space already of a 64GB Apple TV.
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It's completely logical on the AppleTV to do this but to those of us with a huge NAS in the basement and an always on Mac w/ iTunes, we generally go to AppleTV then go to "Computers" and play our local movies we've purchased.

This new change will require we stream the 4K movies from Apple and when half of the country has what the FCC considers to be "below high speed Internet" it means a ton of buffering or long load times to watch a 4K film. Most of us prefer to download once, cache it offline and watch when we want. We own the movie.

This new setup keeps us from downloading in 4K locally even through iTunes on a Mac w/ a 40 terabyte NAS in the basement.
 
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adamjackson said:
Welp...oh well. More of a reason why I've never bought any movies on iTunes. I rent a lot of movies but I'd prefer to spend $20 every 6 years and re-buy my favorite movies on a physical format in the resolution I want w/o any artifacts from heavy compression than lease movies I technically own from a service that likely won't exist 20 years from now.
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Yep and you can't blame Apple here. They don't own any of this content. A lot of people gave Apple praise last week for upgrading all of the 1080P films to 4K. Apple didn't have any part in this. They begged movie studios for this and the studios agreed but with a few conditions, this being one of them.

The people that own the rights to media continue to shoot themselves in the foot when people want to give them money.
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Your response is founded in Stockholm syndrome an apologist behavior
 
Cancelling preorder.. Thankfully Best Buy hasn't shipped yet. I have fast enough internet but am limited to 500GB a month. With game consoles and all the other streaming we do from cutting the cable, I don't have enough total bandwidth to do that...
 
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So do I have to delete a movie off my 5K iMac if I want to watch it in 4K? Odd.
 
So lame. Here is 4k but you cant download it. Here is the most advanced streaming box except no atmos .. maybe in the future .. yea right .. and on and on .....
 
nuckinfutz said:
Your response is founded in Stockholm syndrome an apologist behavior
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Okay, I blame Apple for releasing a 4K Movie Catalogue that doesn't allow users to download the films they bought.

I don't blame Apple for setting up this restriction. The movie studios did this and Apple could have held the 4K AppleTV back another year and all of us would still be sitting here wondering where a 4K AppleTV was.

When Apple makes their own movies, they can set the terms for how those movies are consumed and I'm happy to eat my own words when an Apple-Owned James Bond movie has the same restrictions. When Warner Brothers says to Apple, "okay, you can upgrade all of your customers to 4K versions of our movies but you can't let them download them" what is Apple supposed to do?

PS: There's nothing in the Stockholm Syndrome experiment about "apologist behavior". Are you confusing two studies?
 
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bbodine said:
Cancelling preorder.. Thankfully Best Buy hasn't shipped yet. I have fast enough internet but am limited to 500GB a month. With game consoles and all the other streaming we do from cutting the cable, I don't have enough total bandwidth to do that...
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I think your real issue should be the artificial limits you ISP puts on you. They are price gouging for a non existent issue.
 
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Palmy_Jon said:
Fekking awesome! I have a 20Meg connection!

I thought I was lucky having just received my 4K Apple TV this morning as I live in NZ. If I had know this when I ordered, I wouldn't have!

I did wonder why Wonder Woman looked so crappy when I tried it out this morning! My TV has Netflix 4K and that looks fantastic so why can't Apple manage it?

Back to plan B and get an UHD player.

I'm not a happy bunny this morning....
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https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/21/16341876/new-apple-tv-4k-review-2017
The review explains the crappy resolution. This is why I'm going to wait to buy.
 
farewelwilliams said:
it's likely a storage issue. sure they could probably include a 128gb flash on the apple tv, but that would hold what? 1 or 2 4k movies? at what cost? extra $50-$100 to shell out?

sure you could probably download to your imac then somehow airplay the 4k hdr to your apple tv, but the whole point of a set top box (and what Apple learned from the first version of Apple TV) is to not need a computer to watch movies.

if your internet can't handle it, you're probably not ready for 4k. this is the exact reason why Apple TV 4k took a while to come out. It's not that Apple couldn't figure out how to make a 4k device, but rather they were waiting until the tech was ripe enough to release a 4k streaming device.
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Dude these guys just want 4K at crap quality just so they can say "It's 4K", "I've got 4K", I love that ESPN commercial with Dwayne Wade, he's in the ESPN "Film Room". and he's like, "When it's ready", "When IT'S ready". I mean when are these guy going to understand Apple is about Quality??

I mean seriously!

It's just annoying, I call them newhores, for the last 7 or so years...freakin take like a perfectly good,1080p TV and just trash it, or sell it on craigslist, just to buy a new 4K...spoiled milk dude...

LATE
 
Rogifan said:
How long would it take to download a 4K movie on a slow connection?
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It's still convenient to pre-load it onto your device one time, maybe even ahead of time. and never have to worry about re-downloading it again. If you stream it, it has to be done in one go at the time of viewing, which is going to be harder on a slower connection.
 
The YOUTUBE 4k problem is a big deal for me. Sure they will fix this in future updates (Perhaps!) . But it just shows the Jerk type move that apple makes in this regard. How was 4k YOUTUBE not at the top of the list when they worked on this box? It just shows the ignorance of the team working on this project.
 
Presumably if you purchase a 4K movie, you can still download the 1080p version for watching on your iPad etc at no more cost?
 
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